[OT] Career Outlook

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slecky

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Howdy Folks,
I just came across this little snippet from Europe
(http://www.edn.com/article/CA486519.html):

"While Meyr saw substantial promise in SOC design, Professor Hannu Tenhunen
of the University of Turku, Finland was not at all sanguine about the future
of SOC design, at least in Europe. In his presentation, Tenhunen said that
VLSI and ASIC design died in Europe during the 1990s and that SOC design had
died by 2004. The use of platform design and networks on chip (NoCs) might
not work out at all and might only be applicable to a very few mainstream
applications.
However, Tenhunen was not saying that chip design was dead all over the
world. His focus was on the educational programs in European universities
that were still producing VLSI and ASIC designers at a time when chip design
was clearly moving to Asia. Tenhunen compared the need for more European
ASIC and VLSI designers to the need for more machine-screw, bolt, and nut
designers: "It's not a growth market, merely a replacement market."
Consequently, Tenhunen is looking towards more cooperative educational
programs with Asian countries, especially China, with the intent of doubling
the number of SOC designers in the world, but not in Europe."

So, as a recent graduate with a B.Sc. Computer Engineering, what are my
prospects for starting a career as an ASIC design engineer?
I am very very interested in becoming a mixed-signal/SoC design engineer,
and would love to do work as such.

As people "out there" in the working world, what do you see for someone who
is trying to get started? Do I have a chance? Should I switch my focus to
more embedded hardware/software codesign?
 
"slecky" <slecky@_muck_web.com> wrote in message
news:aaqdnTSQgY4vaXbcRVn-sg@kans.com...

As people "out there" in the working world, what do you see for someone
who
is trying to get started? Do I have a chance? Should I switch my focus to
more embedded hardware/software codesign?
Worry about being good at what you do now - which is learning & Thinking:

Many, many engineers end up never using their line of education except as
the entry-ticket to the first job. Every two-four years, things will change
anyways.
 
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:25:01 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:


If you're a single-minded, self-absorbed, nerd, and relatively
brainless, then your prospects for a successful career in engineering
should be good.
And the pay is good!

John
 
slecky wrote:

Howdy Folks,
I just came across this little snippet from Europe
(http://www.edn.com/article/CA486519.html):

"While Meyr saw substantial promise in SOC design, Professor Hannu Tenhunen
[snip]
So, as a recent graduate with a B.Sc. Computer Engineering, what are my
prospects for starting a career as an ASIC design engineer?
I am very very interested in becoming a mixed-signal/SoC design engineer,
and would love to do work as such.

As people "out there" in the working world, what do you see for someone who
is trying to get started? Do I have a chance? Should I switch my focus to
more embedded hardware/software codesign?
First you should prepare yourself to replenish you knowledge
such that you relearn everything every 6 years or so.
There is no such thing as learn once earn lifelong in
electronics and connected fields.

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
 
It IS frustrating to see and hear and read all the "bad" news about the
economy and the industry and the globalization, etc. etc.
Commonsense tells me that there will be more of a need than ever for
hardware engineers, since we have chips in everything now.
But the Masters of Business Land are spending just as much brainpower to
mimize costs, and more often than not that means labor.
And when you are unemployed and out-of-touch, it drives you crazy trying to
figure out what to "study up on" in order to stay current and get your foot
in the door.


Thanks for all of your feedback.



"slecky" <slecky@_muck_web.com> wrote in message
news:aaqdnTSQgY4vaXbcRVn-sg@kans.com...
Howdy Folks,
I just came across this little snippet from Europe
(http://www.edn.com/article/CA486519.html):

"While Meyr saw substantial promise in SOC design, Professor Hannu
Tenhunen
of the University of Turku, Finland was not at all sanguine about the
future
of SOC design, at least in Europe. In his presentation, Tenhunen said that
VLSI and ASIC design died in Europe during the 1990s and that SOC design
had
died by 2004. The use of platform design and networks on chip (NoCs) might
not work out at all and might only be applicable to a very few mainstream
applications.
However, Tenhunen was not saying that chip design was dead all over the
world. His focus was on the educational programs in European universities
that were still producing VLSI and ASIC designers at a time when chip
design
was clearly moving to Asia. Tenhunen compared the need for more European
ASIC and VLSI designers to the need for more machine-screw, bolt, and nut
designers: "It's not a growth market, merely a replacement market."
Consequently, Tenhunen is looking towards more cooperative educational
programs with Asian countries, especially China, with the intent of
doubling
the number of SOC designers in the world, but not in Europe."

So, as a recent graduate with a B.Sc. Computer Engineering, what are my
prospects for starting a career as an ASIC design engineer?
I am very very interested in becoming a mixed-signal/SoC design engineer,
and would love to do work as such.

As people "out there" in the working world, what do you see for someone
who
is trying to get started? Do I have a chance? Should I switch my focus to
more embedded hardware/software codesign?
 

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