OT: As if the Virus wasn't enough to worry about!

[Cursitor Doom]

"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

 

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:02:00 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

Deficit will easily exceed $4T for FY2020, and they're looking at a similar bust for 2021.
The economic slowdown is costing them nearly as much in lost revenue as the giveaways and the damned fool overspending/overbuying of things they don't need.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 10:01 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

 

[Ricky C]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:13:57 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:02:00 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

Deficit will easily exceed $4T for FY2020, and they're looking at a similar bust for 2021.
The economic slowdown is costing them nearly as much in lost revenue as the giveaways and the damned fool overspending/overbuying of things they don't need.

A lot of posting asks the question of how many lives could have been saved if we had mounted an early and effective defense against this disease. I also wonder how much less impact it would have had on the economy if the response had been more effective earlier on.

Considering the Federal response, I'm not sure it would have made much difference. While we did drag our feet and screw up the testing, the states were ultimately responsible for enacting stay at home orders and other measures to slow the spread of the virus.

There was going to be some delay because it takes time for people to properly grasp the reality of a new situation like this. It looks like there was also the issue of the problem needing to reach some level of severity before people would act. So if the latter were dominant I think we would not be seeing much difference in the result, just a couple of weeks time difference.

It looks to me like the US is doubly screwed mostly because we still are not taking this seriously. Not completely different from a parent having to extend a child's disciplinary action because the child is still not repentant. "No, you stay in that corner until you apologize for real!"

Our new infection rate is climbing again! Maybe it's the result of the anti-lock down protests?

I'm a bit surprised no one seems to be acknowledging the infection rate continuing and not dropping and taking action. Everyone wants to focus on restarting the economy. What's the point of restarting the economy if we haven't brought down the infection rate???

It's not like it's impossible. Look at the handfuls of countries who have done it.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/25/2020 10:01 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?


If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 12:50 PM, Ricky C wrote:

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:13:57 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:02:00 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

Deficit will easily exceed $4T for FY2020, and they're looking at a similar bust for 2021.
The economic slowdown is costing them nearly as much in lost revenue as the giveaways and the damned fool overspending/overbuying of things they don't need.

A lot of posting asks the question of how many lives could have been saved if we had mounted an early and effective defense against this disease. I also wonder how much less impact it would have had on the economy if the response had been more effective earlier on.

Considering the Federal response, I'm not sure it would have made much difference. While we did drag our feet and screw up the testing, the states were ultimately responsible for enacting stay at home orders and other measures to slow the spread of the virus.

There was going to be some delay because it takes time for people to properly grasp the reality of a new situation like this. It looks like there was also the issue of the problem needing to reach some level of severity before people would act. So if the latter were dominant I think we would not be seeing much difference in the result, just a couple of weeks time difference.

It looks to me like the US is doubly screwed mostly because we still are not taking this seriously. Not completely different from a parent having to extend a child's disciplinary action because the child is still not repentant. "No, you stay in that corner until you apologize for real!"

Our new infection rate is climbing again! Maybe it's the result of the anti-lock down protests?

I'm a bit surprised no one seems to be acknowledging the infection rate continuing and not dropping and taking action. Everyone wants to focus on restarting the economy. What's the point of restarting the economy if we haven't brought down the infection rate???

It's not like it's impossible. Look at the handfuls of countries who have done it.

If wealthy and middle-class Americans are offered the choice between
throwing the elderly and vulnerable under the bus vs. giving up the
lifestyle to which they have been accustomed for a significant period of
time (e.g. three months) then the majority will agree they should be thrown.

As a Christian nation if that is what's done then it intrinsically
implies that it is the will of God.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 3:31 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

CD would make a good slave he seems easily trainable to actually enjoy
the lifestyle.

 

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:31:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

He's be happy in Venezuela.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:53:03 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> And you probably do.

Unacceptible hypothesis. Unless you quantify the probability, it's totally
untestable (and that, in conjunction with the name in the header) indicates another
arrogant dismissal in lieu of information. You didn't test the hypothesis, nor can we.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 7:37 PM, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:53:03 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

And you probably do.

Unacceptible hypothesis. Unless you quantify the probability, it's totally
untestable (and that, in conjunction with the name in the header) indicates another
arrogant dismissal in lieu of information. You didn't test the hypothesis, nor can we.

Not trying to make blanket statements here but my intuition would be
that variants on the rejoinder "I know you are but what am I" don't
speak to a particularly ah, y'know. nuanced understanding of European
Enlightenment-era-derived concepts of human rights or personal liberty.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 6:40:21 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:31:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

He's be happy in Venezuela.

This is James Arthur level thinking. He assumes that because Bitrex doesn't like Trump, he's got to be a socialist/communist and that because Venezula calls itself socialist - when it is merely a failed state in chaos - Bitrex would be happy there. Since nobdy is going to be happy in Venezula until they've got themselves as government that actually works, this is remarkably silly, even for John Larkin.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 5:31:06 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

This seems unlikely. Bitrex does satire from time to time, and this looks very like it to me.

> Must be so sad to live in a country you hate.

A desire to satirise a administration that clearly deserves it doesn't imply any kind of hatred of the country you live in. It's well articulated by the toast

“My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

The US does have a lot of features that need to e set right - not as many as China, and nowhere near as many as North Korea, but clearly more than some places in Scandinavia and Northern Europe.

> Perhaps relocating to China or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

It's unlikely that that would be a good move for anybody. There was a time when racist Americans moved to Australia under the delusion that Australia still had a "White Australia" policy. They were deeply disappointed to find that Australia had opted for multi-culturalism sometime before they moved.

When it comes to coping with a Covid-19 epidemic, China has done a whole lot better than the US but so have a few other countries with more democratic political systems.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 11:04 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 6:40:21 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:31:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

He's be happy in Venezuela.

This is James Arthur level thinking. He assumes that because Bitrex doesn't like Trump, he's got to be a socialist/communist and that because Venezula calls itself socialist - when it is merely a failed state in chaos - Bitrex would be happy there. Since nobdy is going to be happy in Venezula until they've got themselves as government that actually works, this is remarkably silly, even for John Larkin.

Never been to Venezuela but Colombia is a lovely country to visit at
least, beautiful beaches, great food, low cost of living, friendly and
attractive women (particularly at the beaches.)

Definitely experience you start thinking about when you're sitting in a
balls cold auto maintenance shop waiting room with a busted heater in
January somewhere in the Northeast, and only someone's granma arguing
with the sullen tech about the cost of a brake job on her 2002 Buick and
a stack of magazines 8 months out of date for company. oh no. please
don't deport me.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/25/2020 10:58 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 5:31:06 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

This seems unlikely. Bitrex does satire from time to time, and this looks very like it to me.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate.

A desire to satirise a administration that clearly deserves it doesn't imply any kind of hatred of the country you live in. It's well articulated by the toast

“My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

The US does have a lot of features that need to e set right - not as many as China, and nowhere near as many as North Korea, but clearly more than some places in Scandinavia and Northern Europe.

Perhaps relocating to China or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

It's unlikely that that would be a good move for anybody. There was a time when racist Americans moved to Australia under the delusion that Australia still had a "White Australia" policy. They were deeply disappointed to find that Australia had opted for multi-culturalism sometime before they moved.

When it comes to coping with a Covid-19 epidemic, China has done a whole lot better than the US but so have a few other countries with more democratic political systems.

The US tends to believe economics is a science but epidemiology is a
sooth-saying; Americans tenaciously holding onto their 401ks and IRAs
entirely confident in the power of exponential growth to recoup the
losses incurred by their government's lack of belief in the power of
exponential growth.

 

[Ricky C]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 3:31:06 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

It's not the country people don't want. It's those who can't think straight that the rest have to share it with. Considering how Larkin is constantly whining about what everyone else is doing or thinking, I would expect him to be one of the first to leave with you a close second. Can I get the door for you? Let me call you a cab to the airport.

No, this is a great country. It is definitely the sharing it with those who are so intolerant of others that makes everyone unhappy. The key word there is "share". It would be a very different place if everyone learned to share and what it means to support each other.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 5:27:06 PM UTC+10, Ricky C wrote:

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 3:31:06 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:52:54 -0700, jlarkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:10:25 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

If I wanted to build a one-party militarized apartheid white ethno-state
under the total authority of a supreme party leader on the American
continent I'd probably create the problem and sell the cure

And you probably do.

Must be so sad to live in a country you hate. Perhaps relocating to China
or North Korea could prove a good move for him.

It's not the country people don't want. It's those who can't think straight that the rest have to share it with. Considering how Larkin is constantly whining about what everyone else is doing or thinking, I would expect him to be one of the first to leave with you a close second. Can I get the door for you? Let me call you a cab to the airport.

No, this is a great country. It is definitely the sharing it with those who are so intolerant of others that makes everyone unhappy. The key word there is "share". It would be a very different place if everyone learned to share and what it means to support each other.

Dear me. You have just outed yourself as a socialist, which - by the rules of rightwing thinking - makes you a card-carrying member of the communist party.

Expect a subpoena from the Committee Investigating Un-American Activities (like kindness and charity) sometime very soon.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:10:39 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 4/25/2020 10:58 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

“My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

The US tends to believe economics is a science but epidemiology is a
sooth-saying;

Well, no. When that guy from EPA testified that epidemiology was a pseudoscience,
I had a momentary lapse of temper. He was lying.
An insurance company with a map discovered that a lot of death benefits were going
to a particular section of London, and indicted the well serving that area as
the source of cholera. It was a major public health victory at the time, and
it was CERTAINLY epidemiology. EPA needs real thinkers, not truth-twisting
political hacks.

Real US citizens aren't likely stupid enough to believe the hacks, I hope.
The EPA didn't catch Flint, Michigan, either. It took a scientist from out-of-state.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:03:36 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 4/25/2020 12:50 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 12:13:57 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:02:00 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
"The US national debt now exceeds $24.6 trillion. It was just two weeks
ago that it hit $24 trillion. We are adding $1 trillion per month to the
national debt. That was the size of the entire national debt as late as
Oct. 1981. How much longer can this pace continue without a crisis?"

- Peter Schiff

He's right, you know! Here's how it's piling up:

https://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-debt-in-the-united-states.php

A trillion a month and accelerating. What could possibly go wrong?

Deficit will easily exceed $4T for FY2020, and they're looking at a similar bust for 2021.
The economic slowdown is costing them nearly as much in lost revenue as the giveaways and the damned fool overspending/overbuying of things they don't need.

A lot of posting asks the question of how many lives could have been saved if we had mounted an early and effective defense against this disease. I also wonder how much less impact it would have had on the economy if the response had been more effective earlier on.

Considering the Federal response, I'm not sure it would have made much difference. While we did drag our feet and screw up the testing, the states were ultimately responsible for enacting stay at home orders and other measures to slow the spread of the virus.

There was going to be some delay because it takes time for people to properly grasp the reality of a new situation like this. It looks like there was also the issue of the problem needing to reach some level of severity before people would act. So if the latter were dominant I think we would not be seeing much difference in the result, just a couple of weeks time difference.

It looks to me like the US is doubly screwed mostly because we still are not taking this seriously. Not completely different from a parent having to extend a child's disciplinary action because the child is still not repentant. "No, you stay in that corner until you apologize for real!"

Our new infection rate is climbing again! Maybe it's the result of the anti-lock down protests?

I'm a bit surprised no one seems to be acknowledging the infection rate continuing and not dropping and taking action. Everyone wants to focus on restarting the economy. What's the point of restarting the economy if we haven't brought down the infection rate???

It's not like it's impossible. Look at the handfuls of countries who have done it.


If wealthy and middle-class Americans are offered the choice between
throwing the elderly and vulnerable under the bus vs. giving up the
lifestyle to which they have been accustomed for a significant period of
time (e.g. three months) then the majority will agree they should be thrown.

As a Christian nation if that is what's done then it intrinsically
implies that it is the will of God.

Only if you worship the devil.