OT: Anyone Know Where to get 30-40% H2O2 in Ontario, Canada?

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Mike Monett

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Hi,

Does anyone know where to get 30 to 40% food grade hydrogen peroxide in
Ontario, Canada?

This is on the Canadian HAZMAT list and shipping costs will be exorbitant,
so I'd rather not buy from British Columbia. A local supplier would be
great - preferably near Barrie, Orillia, or Midland, Ontario.

Thanks,

Mike Monett
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:51:32 -0400, in sci.electronics.design Mike
Monett <no@spam.com> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to get 30 to 40% food grade hydrogen peroxide in
Ontario, Canada?

This is on the Canadian HAZMAT list and shipping costs will be exorbitant,
so I'd rather not buy from British Columbia. A local supplier would be
great - preferably near Barrie, Orillia, or Midland, Ontario.

Thanks,

Mike Monett
sorry, but Yellow pages? good old fashioned paper data.
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Google would be/ is usless at this sort of thing. Or ask a pharmacy
human who supplies him.


martin

After the first death, there is no other.
(Dylan Thomas)
 
Mike Monett wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know where to get 30 to 40% food grade hydrogen peroxide in
Ontario, Canada?

This is on the Canadian HAZMAT list and shipping costs will be exorbitant,
so I'd rather not buy from British Columbia. A local supplier would be
great - preferably near Barrie, Orillia, or Midland, Ontario.

Thanks,

Mike Monett
How much ?, Drug Stores carried it in my Youth as 100 Volume H2O2 = 35%
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H2O2 by assay. I would try Hot Tub suppliers, Swimming Pool Suppliers,
Hair-Dressing Suppliers. Regular medical grade Peroxide is about 5%. I
suspect Bleached Blondes would buy the 100 Volume stuff hence try the
hair-dressers.

Yukio YANO

is this for Etching PC boards ?

Ammonium Perchlorate and Nitric acid also come to mind, as more
aggressive than Ferric Chloride.
 
Yukio YANO wrote:

[...]

How much?, Drug Stores carried it in my Youth as 100 Volume H2O2 = 35%
H2O2 by assay. I would try Hot Tub suppliers, Swimming Pool Suppliers,
Hair-Dressing Suppliers. Regular medical grade Peroxide is about 5%. I
suspect Bleached Blondes would buy the 100 Volume stuff hence try the
hair-dressers.
Click to expand...
Oldtimers at drug stores and pharmacies remember it, but it's not even on
their computers now. Hair dressers used to buy it and dilute it down to
working strength. Not any more. They get 6% now.

An icebreaker was in the harbor a week ago or so, and the ice is pretty
much gone by now. But it will be a while before people start thinking
about pools:) I haven't seen much activity in hot tubs, but will check
anyway.

Yukio YANO

is this for Etching PC boards ?
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No. For an experiment. Not rockets.

Thanks!

Mike Monett
 
martin griffith wrote:

[...]

sorry, but Yellow pages? good old fashioned paper data.

Google would be/ is usless at this sort of thing. Or ask a pharmacy
human who supplies him.

martin
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Yes, I tried calling places to trace back through their suppliers, but
nobody seems to have it anymore. I'll keep looking.

Thanks!

Mike Monett
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:33:30 -0400, the renowned Mike Monett
<no@spam.com> wrote:

martin griffith wrote:

[...]

sorry, but Yellow pages? good old fashioned paper data.

Google would be/ is usless at this sort of thing. Or ask a pharmacy
human who supplies him.

martin

Yes, I tried calling places to trace back through their suppliers, but
nobody seems to have it anymore. I'll keep looking.

Thanks!

Mike Monett
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Lab supply places list it at a fairly reasonable price ($19 US for
500ml 35% solution).

"Substance is listed in Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) inventory."

Don't poison yourself with this stuff, eh?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

[...]

Lab supply places list it at a fairly reasonable price ($19 US for
500ml 35% solution).

"Substance is listed in Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) inventory."

Don't poison yourself with this stuff, eh?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Hi Speff, Thanks. That's a pretty good price. Where did you find it?

Don't worry - I know it's nasty stuff. I just did an experiment with 3%
that went very well. It should go like gangbusters on 35%!

Mike Monett
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:20:40 -0400, the renowned Mike Monett
<no@spam.com> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

[...]

Lab supply places list it at a fairly reasonable price ($19 US for
500ml 35% solution).

"Substance is listed in Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) inventory."

Don't poison yourself with this stuff, eh?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Hi Speff, Thanks. That's a pretty good price. Where did you find it?
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Alfa. The Canadian distributor is VWR International, but maybe you
have your own favorite source for reagent grade chemicals.

Don't worry - I know it's nasty stuff. I just did an experiment with 3%
that went very well. It should go like gangbusters on 35%!

Mike Monett
Click to expand...

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

[...]

Hi Speff, Thanks. That's a pretty good price. Where did you find it?

Alfa. The Canadian distributor is VWR International, but maybe you
have your own favorite source for reagent grade chemicals.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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OK, Thanks very much. I was looking for food grade since the stabilizers
should be ingestible, but I'll try to get some and see how it works.

Also, it just occurred to me that a local high school chemistry
department may have some. I'll try them also. They used to be a great
source of all kinds of things needed to make rockets and bombs when I was
a kid.

Mike Monett
 
You could try nntp://rec.models.rockets. There are some ontario rocketteers
with h202 experience that might be able to help you out.

Eric

"Mike Monett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:426701C6.3FE0@spam.com...
Yukio YANO wrote:

[...]

How much?, Drug Stores carried it in my Youth as 100 Volume H2O2 = 35%
H2O2 by assay. I would try Hot Tub suppliers, Swimming Pool Suppliers,
Hair-Dressing Suppliers. Regular medical grade Peroxide is about 5%. I
suspect Bleached Blondes would buy the 100 Volume stuff hence try the
hair-dressers.

Oldtimers at drug stores and pharmacies remember it, but it's not even on
their computers now. Hair dressers used to buy it and dilute it down to
working strength. Not any more. They get 6% now.

An icebreaker was in the harbor a week ago or so, and the ice is pretty
much gone by now. But it will be a while before people start thinking
about pools:) I haven't seen much activity in hot tubs, but will check
anyway.

Yukio YANO

is this for Etching PC boards ?

No. For an experiment. Not rockets.

Thanks!

Mike Monett
Click to expand...
 
Eric Pearson wrote:
You could try nntp://rec.models.rockets. There are some ontario rocketteers
with h202 experience that might be able to help you out.

Eric
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Hi Eric,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll post there and see if anyone knows.

Mike Monett
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:20:40 -0400, Mike Monett wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Lab supply places list it at a fairly reasonable price ($19 US for
500ml 35% solution).
"Substance is listed in Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) inventory."
Don't poison yourself with this stuff, eh?
Hi Speff, Thanks. That's a pretty good price. Where did you find it?

Don't worry - I know it's nasty stuff. I just did an experiment with 3%
that went very well. It should go like gangbusters on 35%!
Click to expand...
Is Evel Knievel still alive? He used an H2O2 rocket to go half-way
across the Snake River Canyon some years ago...
http://www.canosoarus.com/10X1Skycycle/Skycycle01.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22evel+knievel%22+skycycle

Good Luck!
Rich
 
In article <pan.2005.04.21.17.24.13.90700@example.net>,
richgrise@example.net says...
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:20:40 -0400, Mike Monett wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Lab supply places list it at a fairly reasonable price ($19 US for
500ml 35% solution).
"Substance is listed in Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) inventory."
Don't poison yourself with this stuff, eh?
Hi Speff, Thanks. That's a pretty good price. Where did you find it?

Don't worry - I know it's nasty stuff. I just did an experiment with 3%
that went very well. It should go like gangbusters on 35%!

Is Evel Knievel still alive?
Click to expand...
Well, you googled far enough to find his skycycle, I'm surprised you
didn't find his site. Apparently he is still alive (some people are
just lucky).

http://www.evelknievel.com/

....and to disprove Darwin:

http://www.robbieknievel.com/


He used an H2O2 rocket to go half-way
across the Snake River Canyon some years ago...
http://www.canosoarus.com/10X1Skycycle/Skycycle01.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22evel+knievel%22+skycycle
Click to expand...
--
Keith
 
Mike Monett wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to get 30 to 40% food grade hydrogen peroxide in
Ontario, Canada?

This is on the Canadian HAZMAT list and shipping costs will be exorbitant,
so I'd rather not buy from British Columbia. A local supplier would be
great - preferably near Barrie, Orillia, or Midland, Ontario.
Click to expand...
IMO, it could be concentrated from some diluted solution.
It has a higher boiling point than water doesn't it ?
So just fill it into the rotation evaporator and go hiding.
It is rather unstable at higher concentrations, so ...

;-)
Rene
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Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
 
Rene Tschaggelar wrote:

[...]

IMO, it could be concentrated from some diluted solution.
It has a higher boiling point than water doesn't it ?
So just fill it into the rotation evaporator and go hiding.
It is rather unstable at higher concentrations, so ...

;-)
Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
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Hi Rene,

Yes, it can be distilled. Here's one example for 90% to 98% H2O2:

"The still are designed to concentrate any kind of hydrogen
peroxide and at any starting concentration even a low
concentration to concentrate to 90%-99% to be used as a rocket
"fuel" by the removal of the desired water."

"The distillation unit sizes are: 20 liters (5.26 gal) $7550 USD
and 50 liters (13.15 gal) $18500 USD, on special order we can make
a (PYREX) glass distillation unit up to 250 liters (66 gal.)"

http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/destilai.html

Of course, there is the problem of loud noises caused by impurities. For
example the ME263 Komet and Russian Kursk.

Maybe I should stick with 35% food grade:)

Mike Monett
 
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:23:49 -0700, Rich Grise wrote
(in article <pan.2005.04.21.17.24.13.90700@example.net>):

http://www.canosoarus.com/10X1Skycycle/Skycycle01.htm
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That is a steam "engine" vehicle.
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ask a question here if I hadn't done that already.

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