OT: And So It Begins....

[Cursitor Doom]

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

 

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:57:43 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

By "a major newspaper."

It would be prudent in the future, virus or no virus, to be less
dependant in China for critical materials and labor. Really, we could
assemble $1200 iPhones here.





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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 12:57:48 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

Did you actually read the article? The bill was drawn up in an op-ed in a newspaper...

Talk about fake news!

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Rick C.

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[Ricky C]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:57:43 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

By "a major newspaper."

It would be prudent in the future, virus or no virus, to be less
dependant in China for critical materials and labor. Really, we could
assemble $1200 iPhones here.

We can do that starting now. Just don't buy anything made in China anymore.. Then they will start making phones in Indonesia. Stop buying phones made in Indonesia and they will make them in Vietnam. Stop buying phones made anywhere overseas and for $1,000 you will get a flip phone.

Maybe we should get Elon on this problem? Oh, he's making cars in China. Ok, so much for the Chinese boycott.

How about Canada? Is Canada ok?

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Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:57:48 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

Trust Cursitor Doom both to read the Daily Express - it published right-wing nonsense - and take their article seriously, when the "bill" in question was concocted by a newspaper.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 4:15:34 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 16:57:43 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
cd@not4mail.com> wrote:

This is going to cost....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-
coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest

First of many such claims, I'd guess.

By "a major newspaper."

It would be prudent in the future, virus or no virus, to be less
dependent in China for critical materials and labor. Really, we could
assemble $1200 iPhones here.

The US would have been prudent if they'd spent more money on automating their production limes, rather opting to off-shore production to palces where human labour was cheaper.

Germany - with about a quarter of the US population - exports roughly as much as the US does. They automated production to the point where they could sell at competitive prices. The US didn't.

The Covid-19 epidemic isn't going to make US manufacturers more sensible overnight. A better education system might.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[dcaster@krl.org]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

The US would have been prudent if they'd spent more money on automating their production limes, rather opting to off-shore production to palces where human labour was cheaper.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

That is a pretty simplistic view. The U.S. production lines are highly automated as are the Chinese production lines. But both production lines need maintenance and loading of raw materials. Guess where the maintenance is cheaper? Guess where the book keeping is cheaper? Guess where the cost of benefits are lower? Pensions and health care. Guess where buildings are cheaper to rent?

Dan

Dan

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:13:18 AM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:


The US would have been prudent if they'd spent more money on automating their production limes, rather opting to off-shore production to palces where human labour was cheaper.

That is a pretty simplistic view.

Of course it is. It was aimed at people like you.

> The U.S. production lines are highly automated as are the Chinese production lines. But both production lines need maintenance and loading of raw materials. Guess where the maintenance is cheaper? Guess where the book keeping is cheaper? Guess where the cost of benefits are lower? Pensions and health care. Guess where buildings are cheaper to rent?

"Highly automated" isn't a quantitative measure. It pays to spend more on automating processes where labour is more expensive, so you'd have expected US companies to spend more, but they can outsource to countries where labour is cheaper.

Once you've got the labour content right down, maintenance costs are going to start getting significant. Loading raw material isn't exactly lots of people with shovels either.

You snipped my point about Germany exporting almost as much as the US - if you had enough sense to have processed the point, I'd point that an unmarked snip is a kind of cheat, but you aren't bright enough to understand that.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney