OT: A Possible Second Disease to be Eradicated from the Eart

[Rick C]

I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease. It infects those drinking unfiltered surface water. There is no cure for the disease. As the final stage of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water. As it turns out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle of about a year. So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and promoting safe drinking water habits. Once the life cycle is disrupted long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!

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[bitrex]

On 1/26/20 3:15 AM, Rick C wrote:

I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease. It infects those drinking unfiltered surface water. There is no cure for the disease. As the final stage of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water. As it turns out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle of about a year. So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and promoting safe drinking water habits. Once the life cycle is disrupted long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of carefully
pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the best.

Even metronidazole doesn't seem to kill it, oral metronidazole is a
brutal drug that can take out bigger parasitic targets than just bacteria.

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 4:14:03 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 1/26/20 3:15 AM, Rick C wrote:
I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease. It infects those drinking unfiltered surface water. There is no cure for the disease. As the final stage of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water. As it turns out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle of about a year. So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and promoting safe drinking water habits. Once the life cycle is disrupted long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!


It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of carefully
pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the best.

Even metronidazole doesn't seem to kill it, oral metronidazole is a
brutal drug that can take out bigger parasitic targets than just bacteria..

They mentioned that pulling the worm out can create problems if the worm snaps in half. The worm may still create problems if killed by drugs. There is an eye disease caused by a worm infection which only gets worse if you kill the parasite. I think they call it river blindness.

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[bitrex]

On 1/26/20 4:17 AM, Rick C wrote:

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 4:14:03 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 1/26/20 3:15 AM, Rick C wrote:
I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease. It infects those drinking unfiltered surface water. There is no cure for the disease. As the final stage of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water. As it turns out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle of about a year. So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and promoting safe drinking water habits. Once the life cycle is disrupted long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!


It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of carefully
pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the best.

Even metronidazole doesn't seem to kill it, oral metronidazole is a
brutal drug that can take out bigger parasitic targets than just bacteria.

They mentioned that pulling the worm out can create problems if the worm snaps in half. The worm may still create problems if killed by drugs. There is an eye disease caused by a worm infection which only gets worse if you kill the parasite. I think they call it river blindness.

Yeah it's a question of which is "better" having a large open lesion or
lesions that can be an entry point for secondary infections or keeping
the skin barrier intact and having a potentially ~1 meter long parasite
croak inside you and what are the risks of just leaving it up to the
immune system to handle the disposal. It'll handle it somehow but I bet
that's risky, too, particularly in some patients who might not be that
well-healthy to begin with.

Neither seem particularly appealing...

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 4:51:35 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-01-26 03:15, Rick C wrote:

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!


Eeeek! You horrible person! People are deliberately causing the
extinction of another precious species, and you're cheering!

Yes, parasitic worms aren't the only things that should be eradicated.

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[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-01-26 03:15, Rick C wrote:

I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease. It infects those drinking unfiltered surface water. There is no cure for the disease. As the final stage of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water. As it turns out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle of about a year. So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and promoting safe drinking water habits. Once the life cycle is disrupted long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s. By 2016 there were just two confirmed cases. That is amazing. If they succeed in eradicating the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so. That's amazing!

Eeeek! You horrible person! People are deliberately causing the
extinction of another precious species, and you're cheering!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to feed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural practice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million people between 1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-management - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the biggest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competent one.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 1/27/20 12:23 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 1/26/20 4:38 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world.  That's scientific socialism for
you.



They micromanage the things they micromanage. Authoritarianism is
actually pretty lazy and doesn't like handling potential problems in a
timely, nuanced, or equitable way. So they let problems go and hope
they'll fix themselves or go away, like selling potentially hazardous
food products.

The risks are possibly predictable but it's hands-off approach until
something really serious happens, kick the can down the line, oops
suddenly people are dying! Ok, clamp down hard, stop everything, find
the people responsible and imprison/execute them, ban the entire thing
(whatever it is) and even some tangential legitimate practices while
you're at it. You see, we're doing it for the good of The People. And
think of the Children. We must be tough.

That is to say when all you have is a hammer every potential problem
looks like a nail

 

[bitrex]

On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to feed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural practice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million people between 1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-management - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the biggest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competent one.

China looks at the Trump Party and wonders why it took so long for
America to catch up to them in the philosophy-of-governance department.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/26/20 4:38 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

They micromanage the things they micromanage. Authoritarianism is
actually pretty lazy and doesn't like handling potential problems in a
timely, nuanced, or equitable way. So they let problems go and hope
they'll fix themselves or go away, like selling potentially hazardous
food products.

The risks are possibly predictable but it's hands-off approach until
something really serious happens, kick the can down the line, oops
suddenly people are dying! Ok, clamp down hard, stop everything, find
the people responsible and imprison/execute them, ban the entire thing
(whatever it is) and even some tangential legitimate practices while
you're at it. You see, we're doing it for the good of The People. And
think of the Children. We must be tough.

All thuggish authoritarian power-structures tend to operate this (lazy)
way, down to homeowner's associations and PTA organizations. But every
power-structure is in some part authoritarian it's a matter of degree.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/27/20 1:09 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 01:06:56 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to feed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural practice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million people between 1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-management - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the biggest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competent one.


You'd think Conservatives would appreciate the conservative approach
China still takes to many industries. They often do things in the
old-fashion and have an appreciation for traditional methods.

Yeah, some people are nostalgic for slave labor.

The for-profit prison industry sure seems to be...

<https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289>

 

[bitrex]

On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to feed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural practice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million people between 1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-management - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the biggest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competent one.

You'd think Conservatives would appreciate the conservative approach
China still takes to many industries. They often do things in the
old-fashion and have an appreciation for traditional methods.

e.g. coal and steam power aren't historical curiosities in many areas
even in the 21st century. Chugga chugga chugga:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7spLEwv3I>

 

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 01:06:56 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:

It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of
carefully pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the
best.

It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't
be the disease incubator of the world. That's scientific socialism for
you.

Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to feed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural practice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million people between 1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-management - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the biggest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competent one.


You'd think Conservatives would appreciate the conservative approach
China still takes to many industries. They often do things in the
old-fashion and have an appreciation for traditional methods.

Yeah, some people are nostalgic for slave labor.



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