Opening Ipod Nano 3rd

[John Keiser]

I need to change my battery.
I've seen the videos that make this look easy but it has not been so easy
for me. I can wiggle the smallest crack around the seams using a guitar
pick and assorted plastic levers but can never get beyond that point.
Can anyone here describe the "secret" to cracking the case?
Freezing? Heating?
Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:21:44 -1000, "John Keiser"
<john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

I need to change my battery.

Apple will charge you about $60 for the honor of changing your
battery.
<http://www.apple.com/batteries/replacements.html>
It just works... until the battery dies.

I've seen the videos that make this look easy but it has not been so easy
for me.

It's not suppose to be easy. Apple does not want you to fix their
products. You're expected to pay Apple the equivalent value of a
replacement unit for the privledge of continuing to use their product.
The other alternative is eWaste and buying the latest model, which
probably part of marketing plan.

I can wiggle the smallest crack around the seams using a guitar
pick and assorted plastic levers but can never get beyond that point.

You have to pry a little with the spudger. The guitar pick isn't
really strong enough. You have to pry at the retaining clips. See
photo at:
<http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Battery-Replacement/749/1>
Just follow the instructions. If you don't have the tools, they're
for sale on eBay. Search for "spudger". Get some extras. If you
trash the spudger edge, use a flat file to make a new edge.

Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.

Around the outside of the case, there's welded strip of stainless
steel that acts as part of the mechanism you're trying to take apart.
Try very hard NOT to mangle the stainless strip or you'll have serious
difficulties getting it back together.

Can anyone here describe the "secret" to cracking the case?
Freezing? Heating?

Getting it apart is difficult. Getting it back together is almost as
difficult. I had to use two pieces of wood and a bench vise with an
iPod Touch 2G. I was lucky I didn't break the glass. Good luck.



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[c4urs11]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:10:08 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Getting it apart is difficult. Getting it back together is almost as
difficult. I had to use two pieces of wood and a bench vise with an
iPod Touch 2G. I was lucky I didn't break the glass. Good luck.

Second that.
I've handled a few for my anklebiters and the rear never closes as before.
The iFixit page recommends "purchasing an additional rear panel to properly
reassemble the iPod".
One of our iPods continues to live with tape around the seams. Ugly.
Good luck and lots of patience.

 

[Jim Yanik]

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:5bde289c6vbjkij7h67v4aob3kjs6fn231@4ax.com:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:21:44 -1000, "John Keiser"
john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

I need to change my battery.

Apple will charge you about $60 for the honor of changing your
battery.
http://www.apple.com/batteries/replacements.html
It just works... until the battery dies.

I've seen the videos that make this look easy but it has not been so
easy for me.

It's not suppose to be easy. Apple does not want you to fix their
products. You're expected to pay Apple the equivalent value of a
replacement unit for the privledge of continuing to use their product.
The other alternative is eWaste and buying the latest model, which
probably part of marketing plan.

I can wiggle the smallest crack around the seams using a guitar
pick and assorted plastic levers but can never get beyond that point.

You have to pry a little with the spudger. The guitar pick isn't
really strong enough. You have to pry at the retaining clips. See
photo at:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Battery
-Replacement/749/1
Just follow the instructions. If you don't have the tools, they're
for sale on eBay. Search for "spudger". Get some extras. If you
trash the spudger edge, use a flat file to make a new edge.

Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.
Whatever you do, do NOT use a metal screwdriver.

Around the outside of the case, there's welded strip of stainless
steel that acts as part of the mechanism you're trying to take apart.
Try very hard NOT to mangle the stainless strip or you'll have serious
difficulties getting it back together.

Can anyone here describe the "secret" to cracking the case?
Freezing? Heating?

Getting it apart is difficult. Getting it back together is almost as
difficult. I had to use two pieces of wood and a bench vise with an
iPod Touch 2G. I was lucky I didn't break the glass. Good luck.

maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the case
and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down shipping
crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of things.
When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash away.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:23:25 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Battery-Replacement/749/1
maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the case
and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

That's exactly what the iFixit web site tries to do. See above URL.
Note that the title describes battery replacement as "very difficult".

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down shipping
crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of things.
When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash away.

Different type of band. The back of the iPod is stainless steel,
which is very slightly flexible along the rolled edges. Spot welded
to the inside of this edge is a strip of stainless steel with detents
bent inward forming the hook part of a latching mechanism. The size
and shape of the hooks vary depending on product mutation. Here's the
enlarged iPod Nano 3rd mechanism:
<http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/SRSp1IEOFyiCabd1.huge>

The socket part is provided by the cast aluminum frame of the iPod.
There's a very thin o-ring in a grove in the aluminum frame for
waterproofing. When snapped together, the bent stainless strip locks
into sockets cast into the aluminum.

The problem is that there are no provisions in this mechanism for
disassembly. There's no way to get under the latching mechanism to
release it. A simple goove in the top of the frame would have done
that. Instead, one must pry the very inflexible stainless back of the
iPod outward and hope that the latches will release. Too much
pressure and you can break the glass front. Use the wrong tools, and
you'll mangle the stainless strip or aluminum casting, which won't be
noticable until it fails to snap back together.

Like anything complex, dealing with Apple's award winning and customer
resistent mechanical designs does take some practice. I've
disassembled a few and have noticed that later models are becoming
increasingly more difficult to disassemble. Apparently the highly
"green" Apple is not concerned about the reparability of their
products.
<http://www.apple.com/environment/>


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[John Keiser]

I had seen all the photos but appreciate the encouragement.
Dental floss has helped open up a more useable slit. I'll try to be
patient. Thanks.

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:gblf289vf8o56m7ms09jh86tu8p3tf2du8@4ax.com...

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:23:25 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov
wrote:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Battery-Replacement/749/1
maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the case
and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

That's exactly what the iFixit web site tries to do. See above URL.
Note that the title describes battery replacement as "very difficult".

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down shipping
crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of things.
When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash away.

Different type of band. The back of the iPod is stainless steel,
which is very slightly flexible along the rolled edges. Spot welded
to the inside of this edge is a strip of stainless steel with detents
bent inward forming the hook part of a latching mechanism. The size
and shape of the hooks vary depending on product mutation. Here's the
enlarged iPod Nano 3rd mechanism:
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/SRSp1IEOFyiCabd1.huge

The socket part is provided by the cast aluminum frame of the iPod.
There's a very thin o-ring in a grove in the aluminum frame for
waterproofing. When snapped together, the bent stainless strip locks
into sockets cast into the aluminum.

The problem is that there are no provisions in this mechanism for
disassembly. There's no way to get under the latching mechanism to
release it. A simple goove in the top of the frame would have done
that. Instead, one must pry the very inflexible stainless back of the
iPod outward and hope that the latches will release. Too much
pressure and you can break the glass front. Use the wrong tools, and
you'll mangle the stainless strip or aluminum casting, which won't be
noticable until it fails to snap back together.

Like anything complex, dealing with Apple's award winning and customer
resistent mechanical designs does take some practice. I've
disassembled a few and have noticed that later models are becoming
increasingly more difficult to disassemble. Apparently the highly
"green" Apple is not concerned about the reparability of their
products.
http://www.apple.com/environment/


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Jim Yanik]

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:gblf289vf8o56m7ms09jh86tu8p3tf2du8@4ax.com:

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:23:25 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov
wrote:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Batte
ry-Replacement/749/1
maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the
case and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

That's exactly what the iFixit web site tries to do. See above URL.
Note that the title describes battery replacement as "very difficult".

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down
shipping crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of
things. When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash
away.

Different type of band.

I didn't mean to use it as trim,but as a TOOL.
I made banding into a fine scraper for cal stickers on instrument front
panels,pry tools,etc; it's thin,stiff metal,fine for slipping into part of
the case that you've pried apart. to help release the hidden inner catches.






--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:37:47 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:gblf289vf8o56m7ms09jh86tu8p3tf2du8@4ax.com:

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:23:25 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov
wrote:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Batte
ry-Replacement/749/1
maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the
case and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

That's exactly what the iFixit web site tries to do. See above URL.
Note that the title describes battery replacement as "very difficult".

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down
shipping crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of
things. When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash
away.

Different type of band.

I didn't mean to use it as trim,but as a TOOL.

That's even worse. The guts of various Apple products is a mixture of
materials most of which will be damaged by anything harder than a
guitar pick. I used a metal pocket screwdriver on an iPod 2G and made
a mess of the aluminum casting. Other units have ribbon cables VERY
close to the edge, which will get shredded by metal tools. I
recommend staying with plastic for spudgers, pry bars, and warranty
violator tools. However, if you want to use metal, a dental spudger
works nicely, mostly because it's very stiff, and has well rounded
edges and corners.
<http://www.ifixit.com/Tools/Metal-Spudger-Set/IF145-017>

I made banding into a fine scraper for cal stickers on instrument front
panels,pry tools,etc; it's thin,stiff metal,fine for slipping into part of
the case that you've pried apart. to help release the hidden inner catches.

I tried to use banding for shims and tension wrenchs in lock picking.
There are better materials as the banding stuff is rather brittle.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[N_Cook]

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:r11j28dvempoesh091ahr36h3uncq0ne6h@4ax.com...

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:37:47 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:gblf289vf8o56m7ms09jh86tu8p3tf2du8@4ax.com:

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:23:25 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov
wrote:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPod-Nano-3rd-Generation-Batte
ry-Replacement/749/1
maybe someone who has their IPod apart should snap some pics of the
case and post them so that others can see where the catches are.

That's exactly what the iFixit web site tries to do. See above URL.
Note that the title describes battery replacement as "very difficult".

BTW,there's a lot of uses for the metal banding used to tie down
shipping crates and large packages. Like scrapers,shims,all sorts of
things. When ever I find a large piece,I cut off some strips to stash
away.

Different type of band.

I didn't mean to use it as trim,but as a TOOL.

That's even worse. The guts of various Apple products is a mixture of
materials most of which will be damaged by anything harder than a
guitar pick. I used a metal pocket screwdriver on an iPod 2G and made
a mess of the aluminum casting. Other units have ribbon cables VERY
close to the edge, which will get shredded by metal tools. I
recommend staying with plastic for spudgers, pry bars, and warranty
violator tools. However, if you want to use metal, a dental spudger
works nicely, mostly because it's very stiff, and has well rounded
edges and corners.
http://www.ifixit.com/Tools/Metal-Spudger-Set/IF145-017

I made banding into a fine scraper for cal stickers on instrument front
panels,pry tools,etc; it's thin,stiff metal,fine for slipping into part
of
the case that you've pried apart. to help release the hidden inner
catches.

I tried to use banding for shims and tension wrenchs in lock picking.
There are better materials as the banding stuff is rather brittle.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Do any old-world types know of an equivalent term for spudger?

I've heard the term a Jim Crow in the UK, for some specialised tool or jig
made up for some specific job, seems to have been a term borrowed the
new-world where it means solely a specialised tool in rail-track laying
process and nothing else , it would seem.

 

[Doug White]

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in news:k0dngp$jup$1@dont-email.me:

Do any old-world types know of an equivalent term for spudger?

I've heard the term a Jim Crow in the UK, for some specialised tool or
jig made up for some specific job, seems to have been a term borrowed
the new-world where it means solely a specialised tool in rail-track
laying process and nothing else , it would seem.

Amazon.uk certainly recognizes "spudger" as being the same sort of thing it
is in the USA. It's basically a small rod with a (typically) wedge shaped
end. The original use I saw was for folding over the leads of through hole
components (like resistors) before soldering on a PCB. I've seen them
described as "lead benders". The ones I use the most are disposable orange
wood sticks. They can be modified with a pocket knife into a variety of
special geometries.

Doug White

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:31:39 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
wrote:

Do any old-world types know of an equivalent term for spudger?

Miniature spatula.
<http://www.gaylord.com/adblock.asp?abid=13108>
I also use these to shovel powdered chemicals between the supply bin
and the ummm... experiment.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[John Keiser]

If anyone reads this:
care should be taken in using a guitar oick or any instrument on the phone
plog side of the case. There are only 2 release clips near the phone plug.
The lower portion next to the LCD screen has no clips. I knew that but it
was easier to work my pick in at that point. In doing so and sliding back
and forth to gain space, I must have rubbed the LCD cable the wrong way. It
"looked" ok but would not display. Replacing the LCD fixed the issue. Next
time I will be less aggressive!

"John Keiser" <john.keiser2@hawaiiantel.net> wrote in message
news:YZ-dnZrI-pjAsrrNnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@powerusenet.com...

I need to change my battery.
I've seen the videos that make this look easy but it has not been so easy
for me. I can wiggle the smallest crack around the seams using a guitar
pick and assorted plastic levers but can never get beyond that point.
Can anyone here describe the "secret" to cracking the case?
Freezing? Heating?
Thanks for any suggestions.