Only one EV charger at home?!...

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:00:34 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 04:25:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:26:57 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 23 15:45:02 UTC, charles wrote:

I discovered a few years ago how badly roof bars affect MPG when
driving at motorway speeds.

Automotive engineers have been working for years to get the Cd down and
people mount barn doors on the roof. I\'m partial to hatchbacks and I
have a Montague Paratrooper. The bike folds nicely and goes into the
car. No roof racks, no rack hung off the stern which may be almost as
bad aerodynamically.

https://www.montaguebikes.com/product/paratrooper/

When I was a kid we had a 12\' boat and a detachable roof rack to carry
it.
For flexibility the metal cross pieces had a number of keyhole shaped
slots to toggle in a tie down point. At speed over 50 mph the whole
mess screamed like a banshee.

I do have a kayak. It\'s inflatable and it goes into the car too.

Inflatable? That\'s a kid\'s toy. I have solid ones, one of them sliced
a deer in half when he ran in front of me. I was only doing 90mph.

https://www.advancedelements.com/shop/inflatable-kayaks/recreational-inflatable-kayaks/day-touring-inflatable-kayaks-inflatable-kayak-ae1017/

Works for me. If I wanted to deal with a rigid boat I\'d go for a stripper canoe or a rowing dinghy.

I guess inflatable is good for carrying to somewhere where the water is not near the road. But they sound expensive.
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:14 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I guess inflatable is good for carrying to somewhere where the water is
not near the road. But they sound expensive.

You get what you pay for. You can get sit on top inflatables that are
inexpensive, right down to ones that should be considered pool toys.
The AE has an optional rigid keel. With an inflatable the more definition
the hull has the more efficient it paddles.
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I did put an aftermarket tank on the DR650. There are places I go on
the MT/ID divide where I\'d hit the point of no return and would have to
continue on to a town in Idaho to refuel.

Is visiting Idaho a bad thing?

No, if you plan to do so.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Superior,+MT+59872/@47.0714738,-115.5479964,9z/

There\'s gas in Superior. I think there\'s gas in Clarkia but you might not want to go there. It\'s about 60 miles as the crow flies but the crows didn\'t lay out the roads in that part of the world.
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> Toyota is cheap shit. My VW 1998 and Renault 2002 have MPG.

I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.
 
On 17 Jul 2023 03:51:43 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> You get what you pay for.

You STILL haven\'t learned your lesson, you devoted senile sucker of troll
cock?
 
On 17 Jul 2023 04:05:59 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Is visiting Idaho a bad thing?

No, if you plan to do so.

Looks almost like the troll wants to get closer to all you troll-cock
sucking toothless senile Yankeetards. Maybe it\'s about time you two
inseparable pigs exchanged emails? <BG>

--
And yet another idiotic \"cool\" line, this time about the UK, from the
resident bigmouthed all-American superhero:
\"You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice.\"
MID: <ka2vrlF6c5uU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 17 Jul 2023 04:07:58 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.

I don\'t think you will EVER be able to wean your big toothless mouth away
from the unwashed trolling Scottish wanker\'s cock, lowbrowwoman!

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 17/07/2023 05:07, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Toyota is cheap shit. My VW 1998 and Renault 2002 have MPG.

I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.
USA, like the EU, is a protectionist trading bloc. It taxes imports of
European cars, so the cheaper ones are not worth importing.

--
\"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
let them.\"
 
On 7/17/2023 5:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/07/2023 05:07, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Toyota is cheap shit.  My VW 1998 and Renault 2002 have MPG.

I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.
USA, like the EU, is a protectionist trading bloc. It taxes imports of European cars, so the cheaper ones are not worth importing.

\"Why did Renault leave Canada?

At the end of the \'80s, French manufacturer Renault stopped selling cars
on our continent, victim of new environmental laws that made their cars
noncompliant. Sales weren\'t exactly great to begin with, so that didn\'t help.\"

\"Why is Renault not available in Canada?

Renault had poor results from previous attempts to enter the North American
market either directly or through a partnership with AMC, which did produce
the Renault designed and Canadian manufactured Eagle cars that were reasonably
well received but that ended when Chrysler bought out AMC.\"

And

\"Renault has to obtain an exemption from the government, though: its vehicles
are not compliant with our safety norms. If they manage to sway our legislators,
they would then be allowed to bring 1,000 of their cars here. If they wish to
sell more, they would have to modify them to comply with our laws (if the demand
is there, we hope that’s what happens).\"

There seems to be a bit of a theme there. What could it be ?

Paul
 
On 17/07/2023 13:11, Paul wrote:
On 7/17/2023 5:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/07/2023 05:07, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Toyota is cheap shit.  My VW 1998 and Renault 2002 have MPG.

I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.
USA, like the EU, is a protectionist trading bloc. It taxes imports of
European cars, so the cheaper ones are not worth importing.


   \"Why did Renault leave Canada?

    At the end of the \'80s, French manufacturer Renault stopped selling
cars
    on our continent, victim of new environmental laws that made their
cars
    noncompliant. Sales weren\'t exactly great to begin with, so that
didn\'t help.\"

   \"Why is Renault not available in Canada?

    Renault had poor results from previous attempts to enter the North
American
    market either directly or through a partnership with AMC, which did
produce
    the Renault designed and Canadian manufactured Eagle cars that were
reasonably
    well received but that ended when Chrysler bought out AMC.\"

And

   \"Renault has to obtain an exemption from the government, though: its
vehicles
    are not compliant with our safety norms. If they manage to sway our
legislators,
    they would then be allowed to bring 1,000 of their cars here. If
they wish to
    sell more, they would have to modify them to comply with our laws
(if the demand
    is there, we hope that’s what happens).\"

There seems to be a bit of a theme there. What could it be ?

   Paul
It\'s the same as the EU. Protecting your market and manufacturers masked
as \'all for the good of consumers\'.



--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen
 
On 7/17/2023 8:23 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It\'s the same as the EU. Protecting your market and manufacturers masked as \'all for the good of consumers\'.

There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.

Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0817/8909/files/IMG_9613_large.JPG?13963474672021998964

Paul
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 04:51:43 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:14 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I guess inflatable is good for carrying to somewhere where the water is
not near the road. But they sound expensive.

You get what you pay for. You can get sit on top inflatables that are
inexpensive, right down to ones that should be considered pool toys.
The AE has an optional rigid keel. With an inflatable the more definition
the hull has the more efficient it paddles.

I had something I called Fenton [1] once. It looked like this and liked to blow away in the wind. It also didn\'t support my weight too well: https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzE3WDEwMjQ=/z/PPsAAOSwEUdeMM17/$_86.JPG

[1] From https://youtu.be/3GRSbr0EYYU
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 13:23:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid..invalid> wrote:

On 17/07/2023 13:11, Paul wrote:
On 7/17/2023 5:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/07/2023 05:07, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 03:14:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Toyota is cheap shit. My VW 1998 and Renault 2002 have MPG.

I don\'t think there\'s been a Renault in the US since the Alliance in the
\'80s.
USA, like the EU, is a protectionist trading bloc. It taxes imports of
European cars, so the cheaper ones are not worth importing.


\"Why did Renault leave Canada?

At the end of the \'80s, French manufacturer Renault stopped selling
cars
on our continent, victim of new environmental laws that made their
cars
noncompliant. Sales weren\'t exactly great to begin with, so that
didn\'t help.\"

\"Why is Renault not available in Canada?

Renault had poor results from previous attempts to enter the North
American
market either directly or through a partnership with AMC, which did
produce
the Renault designed and Canadian manufactured Eagle cars that were
reasonably
well received but that ended when Chrysler bought out AMC.\"

And

\"Renault has to obtain an exemption from the government, though: its
vehicles
are not compliant with our safety norms. If they manage to sway our
legislators,
they would then be allowed to bring 1,000 of their cars here. If
they wish to
sell more, they would have to modify them to comply with our laws
(if the demand
is there, we hope that’s what happens).\"

There seems to be a bit of a theme there. What could it be ?

Paul

It\'s the same as the EU. Protecting your market and manufacturers masked
as \'all for the good of consumers\'.

No, it\'s treehugging assholes. If I want to buy an inefficient fun car, I will.
 
On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:57:53 +0100, jon <jon@nospam.cn> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:14:00 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message <op.157deziqmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
CK1@nospam.com> writes
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:15:43 +0100, Ian Jackson
ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <kafv8jF6vi1U22@mid.individual.net>, rbowman
bowman@montana.com> writes
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:11:37 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 21/04/2023 02:31, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:27:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not arf as uneasy as power assisted brakes that lose power
assistance.

Ever drive a car with mechanical brakes? It\'s a good thing they
could go all that fast.

Do you mean hydraulic but not power assisted? The hydraulics have a
different \"gearing\" (I don\'t know the proper word) so the force you
have to apply is still reasonable. I had a Mk I Escort like that. It
had drum brakes all round too. OK, but if you went through a puddle
(or just drove it in heavy rain) water would get into the drums and
I would have to go along with my left foot on the brake pedal to dry
it out.

No, I meant drum brakes operated by rods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zk-0tIAfWQ

Probably because of licensing fees Ford was one of the last
manufacturers to go to hydraulic brakes in 1939.

https://theoldmotor.com/?p=66209

My 1954 Ford Prefect

That was a car? I thought it was a character in Hitchhiker\'s Guide to
the Galaxy.

https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/ford/prefect Mine was the 1953
model.
Despite Henry Ford telling buyers that they \"could have any colour -
provided it was black\", mine was Honey Beige.

I drove a 1936 Standard 14 once, all the car brakes had leading shoes, so
when I shot backwards during a 3 point turn and braked nothing happened
and I collided with a parked car.

This page says that shouldn\'t happen:
https://allthedifferences.com/difference-between-leading-trailing-brake-shoes/
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:18:05 +0100, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <AKV6$eA4+XgkFwak@brattleho.plus.com>, Ian Jackson
ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> writes
In message <op.157deziqmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
CK1@nospam.com> writes


My 1954 Ford Prefect

That was a car? I thought it was a character in Hitchhiker\'s Guide to
the Galaxy.

https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/ford/prefect
Mine was the 1953 model.
Despite Henry Ford telling buyers that they \"could have any colour -
provided it was black\", mine was Honey Beige.

This type.......
https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/ford/prefect/339123

Looks like the still in use London Taxis.
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:14:00 +0100, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <op.157deziqmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
CK1@nospam.com> writes
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:15:43 +0100, Ian Jackson
ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <kafv8jF6vi1U22@mid.individual.net>, rbowman
bowman@montana.com> writes
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:11:37 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 21/04/2023 02:31, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:27:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not arf as uneasy as power assisted brakes that lose power assistance.

Ever drive a car with mechanical brakes? It\'s a good thing they could
go all that fast.

Do you mean hydraulic but not power assisted? The hydraulics have a
different \"gearing\" (I don\'t know the proper word) so the force you have
to apply is still reasonable. I had a Mk I Escort like that. It had drum
brakes all round too. OK, but if you went through a puddle (or just
drove it in heavy rain) water would get into the drums and I would have
to go along with my left foot on the brake pedal to dry it out.

No, I meant drum brakes operated by rods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zk-0tIAfWQ

Probably because of licensing fees Ford was one of the last manufacturers
to go to hydraulic brakes in 1939.

https://theoldmotor.com/?p=66209

My 1954 Ford Prefect

That was a car? I thought it was a character in Hitchhiker\'s Guide to
the Galaxy.

https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/ford/prefect
Mine was the 1953 model.
Despite Henry Ford telling buyers that they \"could have any colour -
provided it was black\", mine was Honey Beige.

That\'s illegal.
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 17:10:32 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:39:05 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:48:04 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

Really, here in the 21st century, manual transmissions make as much
sense as dial phones.

Which the kids can\'t use either.

I\'m a Brit and prefer autos, I see no point in doing mundane things like
changing gear. But there aren\'t many about here. I\'ve owned 3 autos and 9+ manuals.

My womem insisted that I get an automatic. Manuals are hard to drive
on the hills here.

It\'s an Audi 6-speed with the clever dual-clutch Borg-Warner
transmission. I grudgingly admit that I like it.

Frankly, manual transmissions are obsolete technology, like points and
hand chokes and crank starters.


You lack Soul. (Kia and otherwise.)

My wife usually has automatics, but I’ve always had stick shifts. Apart
from parking valets and traffic jams, they’re perfect in all respects. ;)

So is an auto. And you have less things to do.
 
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 14:20:17 +0100, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 08/06/2023 14:41, John Larkin wrote:
My womem insisted that I get an automatic. Manuals are hard to drive
on the hills here.

It\'s an Audi 6-speed with the clever dual-clutch Borg-Warner
transmission. I grudgingly admit that I like it.

Frankly, manual transmissions are obsolete technology, like points and
hand chokes and crank starters.

My son bought an auto (CVT) Civic, as he does stupid mileage. 30k plus a
year.

It does the job, it\'s reasonably economical, it will accelerate when you
ask it to. It\'s got radar cruise control so it will just keep a steady
distance from the car in front in stop start traffic.

And it\'s boring as *****.

No car is boring when you go well over the speed limit.
 
On 17/07/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:57:53 +0100, jon <jon@nospam.cn> wrote:

I drove a 1936 Standard 14 once, all the car brakes had leading shoes, so
when I shot backwards during a 3 point turn and braked nothing happened
and I collided with a parked car.

This page says that shouldn\'t happen:
https://allthedifferences.com/difference-between-leading-trailing-brake-shoes/

No it doesn\'t. It is comparing the effect of the individual shoes.
\"Leading and trailing brake shoes are as capable of stopping the reverse
motion as they are of stopping forward motion.\" This means brakes with
one of each. Leading shoes \"dig\" in to the drum and so have more braking
effect. jon was referring to brakes where they are all leading (when the
car is travelling forward) In the reverse direction they will be all
trailing. (I think the original Mini had twin leading shoes on the front
brakes. I don\'t know whether this was a problem reversing as the rear
brakes were leading/trailing).

--
Max Demian
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:26:40 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


> No it doesn\'t. It is comparing the effect of the individual shoes.

Let\'s compare his notorious trolling to your notorious troll-feeding, you
braindead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE!

It\'s a fact: a troll-feeding asshole sounds about as retarded as the troll
he keeps feeding (see sig)! <VBG>

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 

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