One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design

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One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

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...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
So you _are_ working for Microsoft -- no, wait -- this is probably much
more reliable.

Never mind.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson
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So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <qfrff09ri4ooh4q1j6iq90sudjuo4llsil@
4ax.com>) about 'One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip
Design', on Fri, 16 Jul 2004:
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp
Click to expand...
Have you got versions for elderly electronic engineers that emit 'sawing
Ebonite', 'hot Paxolin' and 'selenium dioxide'? (;-)
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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John
Click to expand...
I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:


On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John


I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
I suppose this is going to be even more volume than those cheezy $5.00
calculators -- but how about $1.98 wristwatches?

Which PLL stuff did you design, and are there any useful Motorola (sorry
-- freonscale) chips that you _haven't_ designed?

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:33 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John

I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...

Hey, Here's my latest gadget:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P400DS.html

Actually, three of us here worked on this for about three years as
sort of a background project, when we didn't have a paying customer
screaming for delivery on something. I never appreciated how much
hassle a benchtop instrument would really be until this got serious. A
VME or PCI board is blindingly simple compared to all the stuff you
have to put into a box like this. And by the time you finish it,
things have changed so much you're dying to redesign it again from
scratch. m.u.s.t..r.e.s.i.s.t..t.e.m.p.t.a.t.i.o.n.

John
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
must be one of those obscure definitions of "contribution"
with which I am not familiar.

--
local optimization seldom leads to global optimization

my e-mail address is: <my first name> <my last name> AT mmm DOT com
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:51:18 -0700, Tim Wescott
<tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:


On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John


I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I suppose this is going to be even more volume than those cheezy $5.00
calculators -- but how about $1.98 wristwatches?

Which PLL stuff did you design, and are there any useful Motorola (sorry
-- freonscale) chips that you _haven't_ designed?
Click to expand...
I laid myself off in 1970, so anything after that is someone else's
work.... although there's really nothing new, just process
improvements on designs by Ron Treadway and myself.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:52:50 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:33 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John

I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Hey, Here's my latest gadget:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P400DS.html

Actually, three of us here worked on this for about three years as
sort of a background project, when we didn't have a paying customer
screaming for delivery on something. I never appreciated how much
hassle a benchtop instrument would really be until this got serious. A
VME or PCI board is blindingly simple compared to all the stuff you
have to put into a box like this. And by the time you finish it,
things have changed so much you're dying to redesign it again from
scratch. m.u.s.t..r.e.s.i.s.t..t.e.m.p.t.a.t.i.o.n.

John
Click to expand...
ROTFLMAO! That's a constant problem with circuit designers... when to
let it loose and call it completed... I'm always in a quandary with
"perfection" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:53:00 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <qfrff09ri4ooh4q1j6iq90sudjuo4llsil@
4ax.com>) about 'One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip
Design', on Fri, 16 Jul 2004:
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

Have you got versions for elderly electronic engineers that emit 'sawing
Ebonite', 'hot Paxolin' and 'selenium dioxide'? (;-)
Click to expand...
I don't think SC Johnson would find those odors acceptable ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 12:01:52 -0500, Roy McCammon <rbmccammon@mmm.com>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson

must be one of those obscure definitions of "contribution"
with which I am not familiar.
Click to expand...
'Twas tongue-in-cheek. It's my chip in the product. But it's this
sort of thing that makes more money than PLLs, for instance.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:51:18 -0700, Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:



On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:



One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John


I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I suppose this is going to be even more volume than those cheezy $5.00
calculators -- but how about $1.98 wristwatches?

Which PLL stuff did you design, and are there any useful Motorola (sorry
-- freonscale) chips that you _haven't_ designed?


I laid myself off in 1970, so anything after that is someone else's
work.... although there's really nothing new, just process
improvements on designs by Ron Treadway and myself.

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
I've never laid myself off, but I've fired the boss three times now.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp
Click to expand...
Nice.

Just out of curiosity (I'm not after $$ figures), but how is a chip project
like that handled?

Did you design that chip specifically for SC Johnson, under contract?

On what are your payments based? Was it a fixed-amount one-time payment,
per-piece license fee? Who owns the rights to the design?

Finally, who handles your licensing/contract agreements?

Thanks for any info --
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:qfrff09ri4ooh4q1j6iq90sudjuo4llsil@4ax.com...
One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...

That's pretty cute. My wife wants to know if you could add a sensor to it
that would increase the squirt frequency when I need a shower.
 
Hi John,

Have you got versions for elderly electronic engineers that emit 'sawing
Ebonite', 'hot Paxolin' and 'selenium dioxide'? (;-)


How about "drilling bakelite"? Or "overloaded carbon resistor", "eau de
Click to expand...
electrolytics" and "parfume de tubes with dust on them"?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
Hi Jim,

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.


If you count the "C" siblings that came after your original I probably
Click to expand...
added another boat load of consumed chips here ;-)

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:17:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:52:50 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:33 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John

I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Hey, Here's my latest gadget:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P400DS.html

Actually, three of us here worked on this for about three years as
sort of a background project, when we didn't have a paying customer
screaming for delivery on something. I never appreciated how much
hassle a benchtop instrument would really be until this got serious. A
VME or PCI board is blindingly simple compared to all the stuff you
have to put into a box like this. And by the time you finish it,
things have changed so much you're dying to redesign it again from
scratch. m.u.s.t..r.e.s.i.s.t..t.e.m.p.t.a.t.i.o.n.

John


ROTFLMAO! That's a constant problem with circuit designers... when to
let it loose and call it completed... I'm always in a quandary with
"perfection" ;-)


...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
I don't know what ROTFLMAO stands for, but an old engineer once
said to me "Shoot the engineer, deliver the product".

Mark
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:00:34 -0400, Mark Valery <mevalery@attbi.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:17:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:52:50 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:33 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:35:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

One of My High Technology Contributions to Microchip Design...

http://www.glade.com/wisp.asp

...Jim Thompson



So, what's your estimate of the total number of JT-designed ICs that
have ever been produced? I mean actual individual chips, not designs.

John

I wouldn't know where to begin.

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.

Although my alternator regulator chips would be up in the millions
also.

The PLL stuff would be high volume but not astronomic.

Then I have probably 100 custom chips, designed for
application-specific use, probably each in the 10K/year category.

But this latest one for SC Johnson will probably be an all-time
high... only way the volume could be any better would be if it fit
into a TP dispenser ;-)

BTW: This design runs off a single cell, boosts its own VDD, and has
also a HV output to drive a piezo actuator that drives the pump. Also
counts the time between "squirts" ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Hey, Here's my latest gadget:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P400DS.html

Actually, three of us here worked on this for about three years as
sort of a background project, when we didn't have a paying customer
screaming for delivery on something. I never appreciated how much
hassle a benchtop instrument would really be until this got serious. A
VME or PCI board is blindingly simple compared to all the stuff you
have to put into a box like this. And by the time you finish it,
things have changed so much you're dying to redesign it again from
scratch. m.u.s.t..r.e.s.i.s.t..t.e.m.p.t.a.t.i.o.n.

John


ROTFLMAO! That's a constant problem with circuit designers... when to
let it loose and call it completed... I'm always in a quandary with
"perfection" ;-)


...Jim Thompson
I don't know what ROTFLMAO stands for, but an old engineer once
said to me "Shoot the engineer, deliver the product".

Mark
Click to expand...
ROTFLMAO => Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:13:01 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hi Jim,

Probably the 1488/1489 RS-232 chip set would have had the highest
volume.


If you count the "C" siblings that came after your original I probably
added another boat load of consumed chips here ;-)
Click to expand...
---
Ah, Yesss... the unmistakable odor of molten polysilicon charring, in
the long term, cubic yards of epoxy B...

--
John Fields
 
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