Odd circuit question

[Richie]

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch. I've been playing with a npn transistor, a
capacitor and some resistors but haven't had any luck. Does anyone
know what this type of circuit is called so a can research it or give
me some pointers to build something like this. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Rich

 

[Jonathan Kirwan]

On 15 Jul 2003 16:35:11 -0700, newsrichie@yahoo.com (Richie)
wrote:

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch. I've been playing with a npn transistor, a
capacitor and some resistors but haven't had any luck. Does anyone
know what this type of circuit is called so a can research it or give
me some pointers to build something like this. Any help would be
appreciated.

How much power can the circuit consume when it isn't in use?
What voltage supplies do you have available? How many
transistors is okay to use? What voltage for the output when
the switch is not pressed and what voltage when it is pressed?
Can you use normally closed momentaries or only the normally
open variety? Is it okay to use a ramped voltage at the output
during the "few seconds" delay? Or must it be held fairly solid
until the delay is over?

I doubt this is what you are looking for, from the above, but
you might play with this so that you can say what it doesn't do
that you want:

+V
|
+V |
| \ R1
| / 82k
R2 \ \
330k / |
\ ,--------+
| c +-------> OUT
| |/ Q1 |
+---| NPN | +
| |\ ----- C1
| e -----
o | | 10uF
\ | |
S1 \ gnd gnd
o
|
|
gnd

The output voltage will rise along an exponential ramp when the
switch is closed. Otherwise, the output will be grounded.

Anyway, best of luck.

Jon

 

[Terry Pinnell]

newsrichie@yahoo.com (Richie) wrote:

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch. I've been playing with a npn transistor, a
capacitor and some resistors but haven't had any luck. Does anyone
know what this type of circuit is called so a can research it or give
me some pointers to build something like this. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Rich

As Jon said, there are quite a few unknowns. But this might do what
you want:
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/OddCircuit-Richie.gif

Also posted to alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

 

[Dave]

I think you are looking for a delay circuit. You can buy solid state time
delay circuits at a good supply house. Some have a fixed delay, others
are variable by adding a few components.

dirwi@execulink.com

Richie wrote:

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch. I've been playing with a npn transistor, a
capacitor and some resistors but haven't had any luck. Does anyone
know what this type of circuit is called so a can research it or give
me some pointers to build something like this. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Rich

 

[Ken Moffett]

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:59:21 +0100, Terry Pinnell
terrypinDELETE@dial.pipexTHIS.com> wrote:

newsrichie@yahoo.com (Richie) wrote:

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch. I've been playing with a npn transistor, a
capacitor and some resistors but haven't had any luck. Does anyone
know what this type of circuit is called so a can research it or give
me some pointers to build something like this. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Rich

As Jon said, there are quite a few unknowns. But this might do what
you want:
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/OddCircuit-Richie.gif

Also posted to alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

Egads, Terry! He was "playing with _one_ transistor!" You'll
have him working with a fist full of parts, a breadboard, and a
sore hand from stripping all that jumper wire.

Jon

I think the OP also asked what this circuit is called. It's a
"Delay-on-Make" switching circuit. Many modules are available in the
relay market.

I'll add one more circuit to the pile. It uses a 4093 quad Schmidt nand,
two resistors, a capacitor, and a SPDT pushbutton switch. Gives both
normal and inverted outputs.
I'll post it on the alt.binaries.schematic.electronic news group.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:59:21 +0100, Terry Pinnell
terrypinDELETE@dial.pipexTHIS.com> wrote:

As Jon said, there are quite a few unknowns. But this might do what
you want:
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/OddCircuit-Richie.gif

Also posted to alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

Egads, Terry! He was "playing with _one_ transistor!" You'll
have him working with a fist full of parts, a breadboard, and a
sore hand from stripping all that jumper wire.

Jon

Yeah, just a tad over the top! My initial doodling sort of got out of
hand. I hadn't drawn a schematic for a week or two, so guess I needed
a fix <g>.

As you said, your ultra-simple suggestion produces an exponential
output. So, providing a NC button is OK (rather than the NO I
assumed), Fred's offering is plainly the way to go.

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

 

[~^Johnny^~]

On 15 Jul 2003 16:35:11 -0700, newsrichie@yahoo.com (Richie) wrote:

I need a switching circuit that requires me to hold down a momentary
switch for a few seconds before it turns on and turns off when i let
go of the switch.

Use this one:
One chip (555), one transistor, two resistors, two caps, a diode
and a N.O.mom pb.

http://gyrogearloose.com/images/delay-on.png

It's basically a modified missing pulse detector.
Just adjust R1 - C1 for the desired turn-on delay.


-keep it simple; use junkbox parts
--
-john


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