OASIS Direct Integrator's Toolkit

[Mark Valery]

I was wondering if anyone had purchased the
OASIS Direct Integrator's Toolkit and would be
willing to tell me if it was worth the price?

We just got a quote for $100K and I'm wondering if
its absolutely necessary. I believe that a simulator
integration could still be done without the docs,
but it would be harder and take more time. Outputting
the data into psf format without the API for the psl.a
library would be impossible without the kit, but would
be negated if SRR would be released soon.

If I could talk the accountants into paying it would be
easier on my head. If not, its going to be flattened
from banging it against the screen.

Any comments are welcomed.

Thanks,
Mark

 

[Mark Valery]

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:07:44 +0100, fogh wrote:

Did these experts make a direct netlister ?
Yes
Generate psf data ?
Not binary, since you need the API, but you can do psfascii in a

bind by writing your own.

I had an impression that ADE integration requires that you write purely SKILL++,
get familiar with all sorts of classes, triggers, data structures and
whatnot.

I have a whole lot of reading of the reference manuals to do.

If you gather info and make sense out of this, I would not mind seeing some 8-}
I could consider writing an example then (such as integration of Al's circuit
simulator).
What is Al's circuit simulator?

 

[Mark Valery]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:47:42 -0500, Mark Valery wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had purchased the
OASIS Direct Integrator's Toolkit and would be
willing to tell me if it was worth the price?

We just got a quote for $100K and I'm wondering if
its absolutely necessary. I believe that a simulator
integration could still be done without the docs,
but it would be harder and take more time. Outputting
the data into psf format without the API for the psl.a
library would be impossible without the kit, but would
be negated if SRR would be released soon.

If I could talk the accountants into paying it would be
easier on my head. If not, its going to be flattened
from banging it against the screen.

Any comments are welcomed.

Thanks,
Mark
I thought I would respond to my own post after talking to

2 experts. One with recent experience with writing a custom
netlister from ADE and another with experience doing it
from when it was called artist. They both advised that it
was not worth the 100K and to do it on my own.

 

[fogh]

Mark Valery wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:47:42 -0500, Mark Valery wrote:


I was wondering if anyone had purchased the
OASIS Direct Integrator's Toolkit and would be
willing to tell me if it was worth the price?

We just got a quote for $100K and I'm wondering if
its absolutely necessary. I believe that a simulator
integration could still be done without the docs,
but it would be harder and take more time. Outputting
the data into psf format without the API for the psl.a
library would be impossible without the kit, but would
be negated if SRR would be released soon.

If I could talk the accountants into paying it would be
easier on my head. If not, its going to be flattened
from banging it against the screen.

Any comments are welcomed.

Thanks,
Mark

I thought I would respond to my own post after talking to
2 experts. One with recent experience with writing a custom
netlister from ADE and another with experience doing it
from when it was called artist. They both advised that it
was not worth the 100K and to do it on my own.

Mark,

Did these experts make a direct netlister ?
Generate psf data ?
I had an impression that ADE integration requires that you write purely SKILL++,
get familiar with all sorts of classes, triggers, data structures and whatnot.

If you gather info and make sense out of this, I would not mind seeing some 8-}
I could consider writing an example then (such as integration of Al's circuit
simulator).

 

[fogh]

Mark Valery wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:07:44 +0100, fogh wrote:

Did these experts make a direct netlister ?

Yes

Generate psf data ?

Not binary, since you need the API, but you can do psfascii in a
bind by writing your own.

I had an impression that ADE integration requires that you write purely SKILL++,
get familiar with all sorts of classes, triggers, data structures and

whatnot.
I have a whole lot of reading of the reference manuals to do.

If you gather info and make sense out of this, I would not mind seeing some 8-}
I could consider writing an example then (such as integration of Al's circuit
simulator).

What is Al's circuit simulator?
Alas, it has nothing to do with South Park. Here is an entry point:

http://opencollector.org/get_details.php?uid=278&src=summary

It has potential only. That could change if it gets decent verilogA/ADMS
support.