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We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly around the
house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the battery to
power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over the
years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and be charged
up fully once a month.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and you might
just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time, even when using
it from the mains. (which is of course much more convenient, as it's all
ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really want
to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would anyone be
able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
 
john zeiss wrote:

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really want
to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would anyone be
able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
Things have changed for modern notebooks. I don't know about the acer models,
you can email them and ask. I have an MSI Wind, and it does not charge
the battery until it is 95% or less full. So leaving it plugged in is
not a problem, it "tops up" the battery every 2-3 days if I unplug it
and put it away at night, or less often if I leave it plugged in all the time.

Geoff.


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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
 
Laptop battery life span are not usage dependent. It has a shelf life based
on manufacturer's date. It is best to recharged it when it's juice is less
than 40 %. Most manufacturer will recommend that. The laptop and the
battery is normally not the same from the same mother (manufacturer).
Regards

"john zeiss" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
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We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly around the
house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the battery to
power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over the
years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and be
charged up fully once a month.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and you
might just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time, even
when using it from the mains. (which is of course much more convenient, as
it's all ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really
want to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would
anyone be able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
 
john zeiss pisze:
We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly around the
house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the battery to
power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over the
years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and be charged
up fully once a month.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and you might
just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time, even when using
it from the mains. (which is of course much more convenient, as it's all
ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really want
to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would anyone be
able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
Hello!
Li-on batteries don't like heat. The best way of storing them is to keep
charged about 60% in low temperature. It's also important that battery
can not discharge under some voltage level - it is not good for li-on.
This level is below 0% displayed by the computer, but you have to
remember that battery is slowly losing it's charge, event if it is not
used. So don't leave discharged battery for days.
However, I suggest you not giving a fuck about the battery, it has been
made to use it, not to be stored in desk.

Sorry for my English. :)
 
john zeiss wrote:

We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly around the
house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the battery to
power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over the
years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and be
charged up fully once a month.

According to www.batteryuniversity.com, lithium-ion batteries are best
stored in a cool place and charged 40% (but consider discharge over time).
Nevertheless, if used or not, they do age but 10 degrees higher temperature
may double the aging.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and you
might just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time, even
when using it from the mains. (which is of course much more convenient, as
it's all ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Of course, you have to consider the benefits of a built-in UPS as well,
which is gone when you take out the batteries.

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really
want to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would
anyone be
able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
How warm/hot does the laptop get while using, and is it kept off hot areas
while working or sitting there powered down?
 
john zeiss wrote:
Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really want
to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would anyone be
able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
Sell it and buy a desktop?

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Adrian C
 
"john zeiss" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in
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We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly around
the house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the
battery to power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over
the years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and be
charged up fully once a month.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and you
might just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time, even
when using it from the mains. (which is of course much more convenient,
as it's all ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we really
want to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term would
anyone be able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks
The advantage of having the battery IN the laptop is that in the event of a
power failure, you won't lose what you are working on (and risk possible
damage to files being written [including the directory]).

I would STRONGLY suggest you keep the battery in UNLESS you have a UPS
(uninterpretable power source).


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bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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"john zeiss" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in
news:gn9530$f5d$1@news.motzarella.org:

We have a 'mini notebook' Acer Aspire One. It's used mainly
around
the house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the
battery to power it.

We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery
over
the years , the battery should be stored *out of* the notebook and
be
charged up fully once a month.

Others have said that really it makes very little difference, and
you
might just as well leave the battery in the notebook all the time,
even
when using it from the mains. (which is of course much more
convenient,
as it's all ready to go, when you want to use the battery power).

Since the battery capacity is very small on this notebook and we
really
want to try to maximise the battery's life, over the longer term
would
anyone be able to advise on what best to do, please? Thanks


The advantage of having the battery IN the laptop is that in the event
of a
power failure, you won't lose what you are working on (and risk
possible
damage to files being written [including the directory]).

I would STRONGLY suggest you keep the battery in UNLESS you have a UPS
(uninterpretable power source).

Good Idea. Most laptops also have ram batteries as well as the usual
CMOS battery. So what yer working on will be preserved in ram for a few
more seconds even if yer main is low.


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On Feb 15, 5:07 am, "john zeiss" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
We have a 'mini notebook'  Acer Aspire One.   It's used mainly around the
house plugged into the mains voltage, only sometimes using the battery
We have been told that to *best* maintain the life of the battery over the
years ,  the battery should be stored *out of*  the notebook and be charged
up fully once a month.
That's silly. The battery manufacturer and the notebook
manufacturer have worked out an optimal strategy, and
there's NO REASON to try to second-guess them.
There's also no way to know if you 'got it right'.

There's one recommendation I believe in, which is that the
smart charge algorithms need to occasionally recalibrate,
and this happens when the 'low-charge' warning is seen,
after which a full charge cycle occurs. So, every three to
six months, unplug the charger and let the battery run
the machine until the warning comes on. Then, reattach
the charger.
 

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