No Speaking Spanish in the USA

On 5/2/19 10:06 PM, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 11:52:36 AM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 21:46:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/1/19 1:32 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
"IIRC., Mr. Trump did not want to exclude *all* Mexicans and >south Americans; just the "bad hombres" he referred to. And many >of them are very, very bad indeed. I don't see any problem with >that. The only people who could possibly object to such a common >sense measure would be anarchists and other nation-wreckers like >Sloman and bitrex and AFAIC they and their bedfellows can all go >to hell for all I care."

Figured that out didya ? they have this worldish mindset and engage in projection (psychologically) thinking that all people are good. At least that's what they say Actually those huddled masses will not have jobs for a while so they would of course support the democrats and their welfare state.

when my people came here they supported their own fucking "anchor babies", not the government. They learned the language and skills required to get good jobs in this country and ASSIMILATED. They did not try to change this country, they changed to adapt to this country. After all, this is where they wanted to be.

I'm trying to think of a list of persona-non-grata people in Dorchester,
MA at the time my father was growing up there in the 1940s. Hmm. Irish.
Italians. Jews. Blacks. Mexicans. 'Ricans. Well you get the picture.

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

Kwr's opinions are the only evidence that he considers, and the conclusions he draws from them can be bizarre.

It's a much different place now for sure. The WASPs have mostly gone.
The blacks were there but are leaving for the suburbs. Hispanics are
there and Asians are moving in and the young whites are moving back now
that there's an organic grocery store

...and you still are.

If seen from krw's unique (and bizarre) perspective.

He's a strange ol' goat for sure
 
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 19:10:50 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com>
wrote:

If you're an American citizen of the United States, you know that Mexico
is the enemy. We must build a wall to keep the enemy out of the USA. But
the enemy has already infiltrated the States, and they must be killed.
They are easy to identify, because they speak Spanish.

Anyone and everyone in the USA needs to be on guard. If you find any
spanish speaking gringos in the USA, you MUST shoot and kill them. This
is your duty as an American. The enemy must be destroyed. Our great
president, Donald Trump wants you to destroy the enemy. This is war. All
Mexicans must be destroyed.

Arm yourself, and join the Citizens Army against Mexico. United, we
shall destroy all Spanish speaking in our great country. The United
States of America.

What's weird is that here in California, where maybe 1/4 of the
population speaks Spanish, packaged vegetables and such are labeled in
English and French.


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On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.

Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan
 
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan

Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John
 
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:22:51 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan


Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John

Okay how many lynchings occurred in the South in the decade starting in 1940 , 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980?
And how many lynchings occurred in the North in the same decades.? I did not find that information in your cite.

That is the information needed to affirm or deny Bitrex's claim.

Incidentally I was not trying to make a political point. Just trying to show that Northerners are not blameless. Try googling Detroit race riots. There were race riots in 1943 and 1967.

Dan
 
On 2019/05/03 5:01 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:22:51 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan


Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John

Okay how many lynchings occurred in the South in the decade starting in 1940 , 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980?
And how many lynchings occurred in the North in the same decades.? I did not find that information in your cite.

That is the information needed to affirm or deny Bitrex's claim.

Incidentally I was not trying to make a political point. Just trying to show that Northerners are not blameless. Try googling Detroit race riots. There were race riots in 1943 and 1967.

Dan

Dan, the WP reference went to 1968 and the south was ahead of the north
to that point. I have to assume that past that point lynchings were very
rare if not non-existent. NAACP stopped citing lynchings after roughly
1968.

https://www.naacp.org/history-of-lynchings/

The Chestnutt Archive link in the article is broken, but it is on
archive.org

https://web.archive.org/web/20150321152517/http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html

Can't prove a negative after all.

Of course you have murderous bastards of all ilks who will kill whoever
they please singly or in mass, but that is usually individuals and not a
group killing. Not going to get into religious murders etc. as this is
about the lynchings of both blacks and whites who were supportive of
black civil freedoms.

John
 
On 5/3/19 8:01 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:22:51 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan


Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John

Okay how many lynchings occurred in the South in the decade starting in 1940 , 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980?
And how many lynchings occurred in the North in the same decades.? I did not find that information in your cite.

That is the information needed to affirm or deny Bitrex's claim.

Incidentally I was not trying to make a political point. Just trying to show that Northerners are not blameless. Try googling Detroit race riots. There were race riots in 1943 and 1967.

Dan

The original post I made was more about time than about geographic
location; being extremely hostile to immigrants of all types was common
in areas of just about every American city in the early 20s century I'd
say it'd be hard to draw conclusion's about New England's "nature" in
2019 from the goings-on in Dorchester, MA in 1940.

I also included Irish and Italians at the front of the list as that's
whom much of the real conflict between the older immigrants and the
newcomers in that area was with at the time - "Irish" and "Italian" are
not races they are white.
 
On 5/3/19 8:01 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:22:51 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan


Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John

Okay how many lynchings occurred in the South in the decade starting in 1940 , 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980?
And how many lynchings occurred in the North in the same decades.? I did not find that information in your cite.

That is the information needed to affirm or deny Bitrex's claim.

Incidentally I was not trying to make a political point. Just trying to show that Northerners are not blameless. Try googling Detroit race riots. There were race riots in 1943 and 1967.

Dan

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes>

Debating which geographic area of the US is the "most" racist is kinda a
waste of time. I doubt I'd be able to find any statistical evidence that
New England was either the most, or the least.
 
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in
news:qak76g$ve4$1@dont-email.me:

On Fri, 03 May 2019 12:26:14 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

What's weird is that here in California, where maybe 1/4 of the
population speaks Spanish, packaged vegetables and such are
labeled in English and French.

Weird. You'd have thought English and Chinese.

The entire nation should put ENGLISH ONLY on our packages.

The entire premise of immigrating here is that you like what is here.
To become a citizen, one MUST know the english language.

So why accomodate the dopes giving us lame excuses about preserving
THEIR culture. You do that shit IN YOUR HOUSE, not morph the entire
societal norms to help you out. Can't read a label? Let your phone do
it then!
 
On Fri, 03 May 2019 12:26:14 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

What's weird is that here in California, where maybe 1/4 of the
population speaks Spanish, packaged vegetables and such are labeled in
English and French.

Weird. You'd have thought English and Chinese.



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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:12:11 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 5:01 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:22:51 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/03 1:09 p.m., dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 11:33:58 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

And you object when I tell you that the NE is the most bigoted area of
the country. Has been for decades.

He means that they don't share his particular brand of bigotry.

They were still lynching blacks in the South in the 40s. and 50s. and
60s. and 70s. and 80s.


Cite ! I am pretty sure more blacks were lynched in the North during that period than were lynched in South.

Dan


Can't use a search engine eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

That took all of two seconds to find and refute your political point.

John

Okay how many lynchings occurred in the South in the decade starting in 1940 , 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980?
And how many lynchings occurred in the North in the same decades.? I did not find that information in your cite.

That is the information needed to affirm or deny Bitrex's claim.

Incidentally I was not trying to make a political point. Just trying to show that Northerners are not blameless. Try googling Detroit race riots. There were race riots in 1943 and 1967.

Dan



Dan, the WP reference went to 1968 and the south was ahead of the north
to that point. I have to assume that past that point lynchings were very
rare if not non-existent. NAACP stopped citing lynchings after roughly
1968.

https://www.naacp.org/history-of-lynchings/

The Chestnutt Archive link in the article is broken, but it is on
archive.org

https://web.archive.org/web/20150321152517/http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html

Can't prove a negative after all.

Of course you have murderous bastards of all ilks who will kill whoever
they please singly or in mass, but that is usually individuals and not a
group killing. Not going to get into religious murders etc. as this is
about the lynchings of both blacks and whites who were supportive of
black civil freedoms.

John

I tend to think of lynchings as being the killing of someone by a mob. But WP does not count those killed by a mob during a race riot. Race riots were mainly in the North.

Dan
 
> The entire nation should put ENGLISH ONLY on our packages.

Disagree. I say that yes all official business should be done in English but we do want some foreigners to come and vacation n shit. And think about Switzerland, five languages or some shit ?

>The entire premise of immigrating here is that you like what is >here.

Zzactly. If they want a country like their old country then they should have just stayed there. Going to another country and trying to affect its law enforcement, laws and customs is NOT assimilating.

>To become a citizen, one MUST know the english language.

Agreed. You want to come here that is that. We are not putting another "press #8 for <your fucked up language>". All natural born US Citizens should know English. All immigrants should know English before they get citizenship.. The Constitution is written in English. Was the fucking Magna Carta written in sanscrip or some shit ? Fuck no.
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:15nhce1v8jm6aoaqv1dgppq99uek9omjga@4ax.com:

He most certainly did make statements which incited violence.

He also used profanity, which he explicitly swore an oath not to
do. It is called the broadcaster's oath, and there is also a SAG
guild oath. The FCC should have fined the stupid bastard $2M for
each and every infraction, and STILL should go back and reference
each and do so.


My goodness, we certainly don't want any profanity!



You can try to dumb down America's character, but the jackass you
voted for has already done that stupid move.

I didn't vote for anyone. Never have.

I do like the corporate tax cut. It will work slowly, but there are
signs that it's helping already.
Remember, NOBODY voted for Trump or anyone else.
The electoral college did the dirt, trashing any vote.
 
On Sat, 4 May 2019 10:55:07 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:15nhce1v8jm6aoaqv1dgppq99uek9omjga@4ax.com:

He most certainly did make statements which incited violence.

He also used profanity, which he explicitly swore an oath not to
do. It is called the broadcaster's oath, and there is also a SAG
guild oath. The FCC should have fined the stupid bastard $2M for
each and every infraction, and STILL should go back and reference
each and do so.


My goodness, we certainly don't want any profanity!



You can try to dumb down America's character, but the jackass you
voted for has already done that stupid move.

I didn't vote for anyone. Never have.

I do like the corporate tax cut. It will work slowly, but there are
signs that it's helping already.


Remember, NOBODY voted for Trump or anyone else.
The electoral college did the dirt, trashing any vote.

Most electors are pledged to honor the popular vote of their state. As
far as I know, all did in spite of being urged and sometimes
threatened to do otherwise.

That leaves the unequal quantization of electoral votes and Senate
seats, which was by design.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics
 
On 2019-05-04 20:23, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
The entire nation should put ENGLISH ONLY on our packages.

[...]
To become a citizen, one MUST know the english language.

Agreed. You want to come here that is that. We are not putting
another "press #8 for <your fucked up language>". All natural born US
Citizens should know English. All immigrants should know English
before they get citizenship. The Constitution is written in English.
Was the fucking Magna Carta written in sanscrip or some shit ? Fuck
no.

The Magna Carta was written in Latin. Everyone should know Latin.

Jeroen Belleman
 
On Sat, 04 May 2019 23:08:55 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

> The Magna Carta was written in Latin. Everyone should know Latin.

Not quite the same as modern Latin, though.



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Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in
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On 2019-05-04 20:23, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
The entire nation should put ENGLISH ONLY on our packages.

[...]
To become a citizen, one MUST know the english language.

Agreed. You want to come here that is that. We are not putting
another "press #8 for <your fucked up language>". All natural
born US Citizens should know English. All immigrants should know
English before they get citizenship. The Constitution is written
in English. Was the fucking Magna Carta written in sanscrip or
some shit ? Fuck no.


The Magna Carta was written in Latin. Everyone should know Latin.

Jeroen Belleman

+1
 
On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:43:41 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2019 10:55:07 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:15nhce1v8jm6aoaqv1dgppq99uek9omjga@4ax.com:

He most certainly did make statements which incited violence.

He also used profanity, which he explicitly swore an oath not to
do. It is called the broadcaster's oath, and there is also a SAG
guild oath. The FCC should have fined the stupid bastard $2M for
each and every infraction, and STILL should go back and reference
each and do so.


My goodness, we certainly don't want any profanity!



You can try to dumb down America's character, but the jackass you
voted for has already done that stupid move.

I didn't vote for anyone. Never have.

I do like the corporate tax cut. It will work slowly, but there are
signs that it's helping already.


Remember, NOBODY voted for Trump or anyone else.
The electoral college did the dirt, trashing any vote.

Most electors are pledged to honor the popular vote of their state. As
far as I know, all did in spite of being urged and sometimes
threatened to do otherwise.

Alexander Hamilton - in Federalist 68 - claimed that it was their job to correct the errors that might be embodied the popular vote.

That leaves the unequal quantization of electoral votes and Senate
seats, which was by design.

A very bad design, which no subsequent constitution has copied. In practice it was a bribe to get the smaller states on board. The unequal quantisation of Senate seats does work, and has been copied.

The electoral college system of electing a president is a complete nonsense..

The very idea of an executive president is pretty dumb. De Gaulle adopted it for personal reasons in his version of the French constitution, but even his presidency had to work through a prime minister who had to have the confidence of the elected representatives from day to day, and the process of electing the president of France goes through two rounds of popular elections - the first to narrow the field down to two candidates and the second to choose between them.

The Chirac - Le Pen choice had it's comic aspects - Vote for the Crook, not the Thug - and Chirac did get prosecuted for his crimes after he had been president, but Trump would not have won such a vote.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sat, 4 May 2019 10:55:07 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote in
news:15nhce1v8jm6aoaqv1dgppq99uek9omjga@4ax.com:

He most certainly did make statements which incited violence.

He also used profanity, which he explicitly swore an oath not to
do. It is called the broadcaster's oath, and there is also a SAG
guild oath. The FCC should have fined the stupid bastard $2M for
each and every infraction, and STILL should go back and reference
each and do so.


My goodness, we certainly don't want any profanity!



You can try to dumb down America's character, but the jackass you
voted for has already done that stupid move.

I didn't vote for anyone. Never have.

I do like the corporate tax cut. It will work slowly, but there are
signs that it's helping already.


Remember, NOBODY voted for Trump or anyone else.
The electoral college did the dirt, trashing any vote.

Nonsense.
 
On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 5:54:33 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
He also used profanity, which he explicitly swore an oath not to
do. It is called the broadcaster's oath, and there is also a SAG
guild oath. The FCC should have fined the stupid bastard $2M for
each and every infraction, and STILL should go back and reference
each and do so.

Yeah... having the FCC fine anybody sounds like a stellar solution.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/
 

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