Nice antique store find

[bitrex]

Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

<https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7>

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis looks
immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never been
worked on. Power and output transformers both test good on my bench.
Paid $40 cash.

<http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios>

 

[tom]

"bitrex" <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis looks
immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never been worked
on. Power and output transformers both test good on my bench. Paid $40
cash.

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios

You did good. What does it require for power?

 

[bitrex]

On 11/07/2017 07:30 PM, tom wrote:

"bitrex" <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:RRrMB.2$4c.1@fx14.iad...
Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis looks
immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never been worked
on. Power and output transformers both test good on my bench. Paid $40
cash.

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios

You did good. What does it require for power?

It looks like a basically standard but early line-powered All American
5-type design. 6A8 oscillator/converter, 6K7 IF amp, 6J7 detector/first
audio, 6F6 audio output, 5Z4 rectifier. It has a power xfmr with a 5
volt winding for the rectifier tube, and also for the 6 volt tubes and
B+ unlike the later AA5s that used series string heaters.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/hygkhrwgg7io66i/IMG_20171107_225220458.jpg?dl=0>>

In my unit everything is a metal enclosure type tube; the 6A8, 6K7, and
6J7 have their signal grid connection on a cap on the top:

<https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_6j7.html>

Original price in 1935 said to be $30 on the above site; there's no
dedicated RF amp so I'm guessing this was the "budget" model.


Schematic:

<http://www.nostalgiaair.org/pagesbymodel/542/M0009542.pdf>

Actually looking at the schematic I don't think the can capacitor in
mine is original; it looks newer than the rest of the set and is a
double 8uF unit rather than triple 6uF as specified. It was probably
replaced at some point, looks like it might be from the late 40s or 1950s?

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/omibj7mvffk835t/IMG_20171107_225224021.jpg?dl=0>

 

[John Robertson]

On 2017/11/07 4:04 PM, bitrex wrote:

Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis looks
immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never been
worked on. Power and output transformers both test good on my bench.
Paid $40 cash.

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios

Nice, but I prefer early 20s peanut tube Northern Electrics. Missed out
on an auction near hare a couple of weeks ago where they sold off a NE-2
(or -3?) that reminded me of a set I had back when I first started
collecting back in the 60s. Sigh, that was one I am sorry I ever let go!

John :-#)#

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[bitrex]

On 11/07/2017 07:04 PM, bitrex wrote:

Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis looks
immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never been
worked on. Power and output transformers both test good on my bench.
Paid $40 cash.

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios

Been an interesting repair so far. In that I haven't finished removing
the chassis from the enclosure, yet. Most of the screws securing it have
rusted and have stuck fast to their threads, including all the screws
holding on the dial knobs. But there's no sign of other water damage
anywhere; looks like it just happened from atmospheric moisture and time.

I doubt this thing has ever been opened up since it was manufactured, or
nearly so.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/13/2017 03:38 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 11/07/2017 07:04 PM, bitrex wrote:
Picked this up at an antique store in Providence, RI over the weekend:

https://imgur.com/a/AH0k7

International Radio Corp Kadette 52 tabletop tombstone radio. The
enclosure is in OK shape given the age but the electronics chassis
looks immaculate; looks like the original set of tubes and has never
been worked on. Power and output transformers both test good on my
bench. Paid $40 cash.

http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/templ.php?pid=147&collection=Radios


Been an interesting repair so far. In that I haven't finished removing
the chassis from the enclosure, yet. Most of the screws securing it have
rusted and have stuck fast to their threads, including all the screws
holding on the dial knobs. But there's no sign of other water damage
anywhere; looks like it just happened from atmospheric moisture and time.

I doubt this thing has ever been opened up since it was manufactured, or
nearly so.

They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads over
many days

 

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:39:48 -0500, bitrex
<bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

I doubt this thing has ever been opened up since it was manufactured, or
nearly so.

They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads over
many days

I'd recommend PB Blaster over WD40. It works a lot better on cars, so I
assume on radios too.

Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/13/2017 11:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:39:48 -0500, bitrex
bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

I doubt this thing has ever been opened up since it was manufactured, or
nearly so.

They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads over
many days

I'd recommend PB Blaster over WD40. It works a lot better on cars, so I
assume on radios too.

Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Nope, all wood! As far as I can tell there are no plastic parts on this
radio aside from the plug, which looks to be Bakelite or some similar
early phenolic resin

 

[bitrex]

On 11/14/2017 06:47 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 11/13/2017 11:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:39:48 -0500, bitrex
bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

I doubt this thing has ever been opened up since it was
manufactured, or
nearly so.

They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads over
many days

I'd recommend PB Blaster over WD40. It works a lot better on cars, so I
assume on radios too.

Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.


Nope, all wood! As far as I can tell there are no plastic parts on this
radio aside from the plug, which looks to be Bakelite or some similar
early phenolic resin

Oh and the tube sockets which are also phenolic

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 11/13/2017 2:39 PM, bitrex wrote:

They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads over
many days

As effective as barking at the moon.
Use a real product designed for that.
Kroil


--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 11/13/2017 10:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Another thing you apparently can't understand.

If the screws rust, the rust embeds itself in the plastic.

--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 11/14/2017 5:47 AM, bitrex wrote:
> Nope, all wood!

Most all wood knobs have a metal insert.

--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

 

[bitrex]

On 11/14/2017 08:37 AM, Foxs Mercantile wrote:

On 11/13/2017 2:39 PM, bitrex wrote:
They're slowly unsticking and starting to turn via repeated light
applications of WD-40 being worked down the holes into the threads
over many days

As effective as barking at the moon.
Use a real product designed for that.
Kroil

It worked just fine with a little patience.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/14/2017 08:39 AM, Foxs Mercantile wrote:

On 11/13/2017 10:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Another thing you apparently can't understand.

If the screws rust, the rust embeds itself in the plastic.

This guy is grumpy/sassy. I'm going to call him "Grumpy McSassypants"

 

[John-Del]

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:39:01 AM UTC-5, Foxs Mercantile wrote:

On 11/13/2017 10:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Another thing you apparently can't understand.

If the screws rust, the rust embeds itself in the plastic.

--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

Rusty metal also expands somewhat. As The Beav might say, it's "swell"...

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 15/11/17 10:12, John-Del wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:39:01 AM UTC-5, Foxs Mercantile wrote:
On 11/13/2017 10:50 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Another thing you apparently can't understand.

If the screws rust, the rust embeds itself in the plastic.

--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com




Rusty metal also expands somewhat. As The Beav might say, it's "swell"...

Rust takes *seven times* the volume of the steel it came from.
That's why concrete cancer cracks the concrete and gets worse
so quickly.

 

bitrex <bit...@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

On 11/14/2017 08:39 AM, Foxs Mercantile wrote:
On 11/13/2017 10:50 PM, olds...@tubes.com wrote:
Aren't the knobs some sort of plastic? I would not think a metal screw
would get stuck in plastic from rusting.

Another thing you apparently can't understand.

If the screws rust, the rust embeds itself in the plastic.

This guy is grumpy/sassy. I'm going to call him "Grumpy McSassypants"

Yeah sure, right. Everyone says that, but its still good to know that about rust because it can compromise its surroundings.