News server weirdness...

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Phil Hobbs

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Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 24/07/2020 10:10, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.
Click to expand...

I\'m on AIOE and see all of his thread but with Common Mode spelt out in
full and all nouns capitalised. Headers from the AIOE server I have:

X-Received: by 2002:a0c:a993:: with SMTP id a19mr14308693qvb.34.1595087345657;
Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a37:a6c3:: with SMTP id p186mr838348qke.135.1595087345505;
Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Path: aioe.org!peer02.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.33.172.5; posting-account=I-_H_woAAAA9zzro6crtEpUAyIvzd19b
NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.33.172.5
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <bf6ec451-3e65-45d4-a094-76a527edb8f3o@googlegroups.com
Subject: Comparator with Wide Common Mode Range
From: Ricketty C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 15:49:05 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"UTF-8\"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Received-Bytes: 2421
X-Received-Body-CRC: 1332131638
Xref: aioe.org sci.electronics.design:595209

Selecting parts can be a PITA.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.
Click to expand...

I haven\'t counted them but there are about two dozen on AOIE here now.

I\'m using nntp.aioe.org and Thunderbird 68.10.0.

The only bug I have noticed is that if I am impatient and try to view a
thread posting whilst it is still fetching the headers I can end up with
a null post that is blank in my local copy and never recovers. Any
Follow-ups to the null post become orphan threads with the same name.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 24/07/2020 10:10, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.
Click to expand...

I\'m on AIOE and see all of his thread but with Common Mode spelt out in
full and all nouns capitalised. Headers from the AIOE server I have:

X-Received: by 2002:a0c:a993:: with SMTP id a19mr14308693qvb.34.1595087345657;
Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a37:a6c3:: with SMTP id p186mr838348qke.135.1595087345505;
Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Path: aioe.org!peer02.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.33.172.5; posting-account=I-_H_woAAAA9zzro6crtEpUAyIvzd19b
NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.33.172.5
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <bf6ec451-3e65-45d4-a094-76a527edb8f3o@googlegroups.com
Subject: Comparator with Wide Common Mode Range
From: Ricketty C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 15:49:05 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"UTF-8\"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Received-Bytes: 2421
X-Received-Body-CRC: 1332131638
Xref: aioe.org sci.electronics.design:595209

Selecting parts can be a PITA.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.
Click to expand...

I haven\'t counted them but there are about two dozen on AOIE here now.

I\'m using nntp.aioe.org and Thunderbird 68.10.0.

The only bug I have noticed is that if I am impatient and try to view a
thread posting whilst it is still fetching the headers I can end up with
a null post that is blank in my local copy and never recovers. Any
Follow-ups to the null post become orphan threads with the same name.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.
Click to expand...
I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird
68.10.0.
 
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.
Click to expand...
I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird
68.10.0.
 
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.
Click to expand...
I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird
68.10.0.
 
On 7/24/2020 6:11 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird 68.10.0.
Click to expand...

Same count here. I use ES and T-Bird 68.10.0.
 
On 7/24/2020 6:11 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird 68.10.0.
Click to expand...

Same count here. I use ES and T-Bird 68.10.0.
 
On 7/24/2020 6:11 AM, Pimpom wrote:
On 7/24/2020 2:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

I count 21 posts in your thread. I use Tweaknews. Thunderbird 68.10.0.
Click to expand...

Same count here. I use ES and T-Bird 68.10.0.
 
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
 
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
 
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and Google
have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely missing from
eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
 
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
Click to expand...

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
Click to expand...

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 2020/07/24 10:39 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I
mean--we all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same
time stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

So that is part of what you are talking about then. There should not
have been two identical posts on Usenet. Too much traffic, or not enough?

Giganews is showing around 25 posts on Rick\'s subject (above).

John ;-#)#
 
On 2020/07/24 10:39 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I
mean--we all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same
time stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Click to expand...

So that is part of what you are talking about then. There should not
have been two identical posts on Usenet. Too much traffic, or not enough?

Giganews is showing around 25 posts on Rick\'s subject (above).

John ;-#)#
 
On 2020-07-24 14:24, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 10:39 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I
mean--we all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same
time stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient
spider\" from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP
Server\" from giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


So that is part of what you are talking about then. There should not
have been two identical posts on Usenet. Too much traffic, or not enough?

Giganews is showing around 25 posts on Rick\'s subject (above).

John ;-#)#
Click to expand...

My original complaint is just about posts and threads going missing on
ES and AIOE. I did the \"rebuild index\" thing and then
unsubscribed/resubscribed, but it didn\'t change anything.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I mean--we
all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same time
stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient spider\"
from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP Server\" from
giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#
Click to expand...

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 2020-07-24 14:24, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 10:39 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I
mean--we all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same
time stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient
spider\" from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP
Server\" from giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


So that is part of what you are talking about then. There should not
have been two identical posts on Usenet. Too much traffic, or not enough?

Giganews is showing around 25 posts on Rick\'s subject (above).

John ;-#)#
Click to expand...

My original complaint is just about posts and threads going missing on
ES and AIOE. I did the \"rebuild index\" thing and then
unsubscribed/resubscribed, but it didn\'t change anything.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 24/07/2020 19:42, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 14:24, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 10:39 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-24 12:39, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/07/24 2:10 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bits of usenet are acting flaky at the moment (the servers, I
mean--we all know about the posters).

For Rick\'s \"comparator with wide CM range\" thread, Supernews and
Google have 25 posts at the moment, but the thread is completely
missing from eternal-september.org and aioe.org.

My \"cute dpot hack\" thread has 21 posts on supernews and GG, vs.
5 on ES and AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


I\'m on Giganews and I see two identical posts by you with the same
time stamp. I haven\'t seen any other duplicate posts...

In the headers one organization is called \"A noiseless patient
spider\" from electooptical.net and the other is \"Aloe.org NNTP
Server\" from giola.aloe.org. Just in case it helps...

John :-#)#

One was via Supernews, which hung up for awhile but apparently did
actually post it, and the other via AIOE.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


So that is part of what you are talking about then. There should not
have been two identical posts on Usenet. Too much traffic, or not enough?

Giganews is showing around 25 posts on Rick\'s subject (above).

John ;-#)#

My original complaint is just about posts and threads going missing on
ES and AIOE.  I did the \"rebuild index\" thing and then
unsubscribed/resubscribed, but it didn\'t change anything.
Click to expand...

I don\'t think they are missing on the server. I have posted the headers
for the post I think you referred to as missing on AIOE as downloaded
from AIOE. If the missing one has a different msgid then please post it.

I only see the \"noiseless patient spider\" version from here but with the
full thread attached to it.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
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