Newly published evidence points to Wuhan seafood market as pandemic origin point...

[Fred Bloggs]

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Apparently raccoon dogs and red fox can be infected by and shed SARS-CoV-2, and there is ample evidence those species were in the market.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/03/03/1083751272/striking-new-evidence-points-to-seafood-market-in-wuhan-as-pandemic-origin-point

Those wildlife markets are the most horrendously disgusting places on Earth..

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?

 

[a a]

On Saturday, 30 July 2022 at 00:28:39 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Apparently raccoon dogs and red fox can be infected by and shed SARS-CoV-2, and there is ample evidence those species were in the market.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/03/03/1083751272/striking-new-evidence-points-to-seafood-market-in-wuhan-as-pandemic-origin-point

Those wildlife markets are the most horrendously disgusting places on Earth.
stop your fake

We have studied at WHO the origin and the spread of the COVID19 plague world-wide

and tourists from USA, Canada, Europe (Norway) traveling on cruise ships
up the Yangtze River
visited caves in the mountains inhabited by bats infected with coronaviruses
and on the return trip
tourists disembarked in Wuhan and visited seafood market
bringing coronaviruses to local people

and on return trip to USA, Canada, Europe,
tourists visited Venice and traveled to some distanet location by buses
and spread coviod19 to local people and among other foreign tourists

Cruise ships feature faulty ventilation system
and air from the first cabin on board is pumped into the 2nd and the next and through all the cabins

And when the first cabin was occupied by an infected person
he/she infected the entire deck during the 2 week voyage



We surveyed the routes of all the cruise ships that sailed down the Yangtze River through Wuhan, upriver and back again

And we counted the number of infected people on the ships, as reported by health agencies, cruise ship by ship.

Since cruise ships from Norway started operations last week and tourists boarding the ship don\'t get tested.

Infected tourists brind covid19 to every port visited, every location visited by tourists on the land,
making covid19 disaster to never end

China banned cruise ships to enter China

 

[bitrex]

On 7/29/2022 6:37 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

More absurd that the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself went
straight to a wet market afterwards rather than rode a train, or went to
a nightclub, or a soccer game, or..

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?

Cuz the evidence for it sucks

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 6:37:38 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator
Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

First of all, the Chinese just didn\'t have the skills to engineer a human virus from a bat virus. With the exception of the one lunatic at NC State ( or wherever he worked) no one in America could either.

They have certain proof of all the different types of animals that were in the market, and two species have been tested as susceptible to infection by SARS-CoV-2, which means they can host the virus . Maybe the lab worker sneezed on them. Who knows...
What we do know is bats don\'t host SARS-CoV-2 if I\'m reading this right:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4
- so the locals can chow down on as much lab bat meat as they want with reckless abandon and remain virus free.

Why?

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 18:58:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/29/2022 6:37 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

More absurd that the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself went
straight to a wet market afterwards rather than rode a train, or went to
a nightclub, or a soccer game, or..

After exposure to a virus, people are not infectuous immediately. It
could take days to get going.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?


Cuz the evidence for it sucks

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 7:50:00 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 18:58:16 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 7/29/2022 6:37 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

More absurd that the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself went
straight to a wet market afterwards rather than rode a train, or went to
a nightclub, or a soccer game, or..
After exposure to a virus, people are not infectuous immediately. It
could take days to get going.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?


Cuz the evidence for it sucks
Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?

They were closely cooperating with American scientists studying zoonotic transfer of disease from wildlife to humans in preparation for a future pandemic. What happens in China doesn\'t stay in China, it will come here eventually.

Hmmm...\"Six out of every 10 infectious diseases in people are zoonotic, which makes it crucial that the nation strengthen its capabilities to prevent and respond to these diseases using a One Health approach.\"
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/s0506-zoonotic-diseases-shared.html

 

[Les Cargill]

John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?

One theory of the 1918 flu epidemic is that people at a military
base in Kansas burned a lot of cow poop and this was then ground zero
for the epidemic.

I didn\'t hear about this until at least 90 years after the actual event.

100 years would be closer.

It just takes a long time to settle the stories out. Trying to get
in front of it is risky.

--
Les Cargill

 

[Les Cargill]

John Larkin wrote:
<snip>

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?

I expect it\'s been a pattern from other flu like virii. In ther
absence of facts what\'s left is narrative.

At this point; machts nicht. I got a call tonite from somebody who
tested positive; of advanced ( > 60 ) years and it weren\'t nothing.

Our stories probably hurt us worse than the thing itself.

--
Les Cargill

 

[a a]

On Saturday, 30 July 2022 at 05:23:51 UTC+2, Les Cargill wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
snip

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?


I expect it\'s been a pattern from other flu like virii. In ther
absence of facts what\'s left is narrative.

At this point; machts nicht. I got a call tonite from somebody who
tested positive; of advanced ( > 60 ) years and it weren\'t nothing.

Our stories probably hurt us worse than the thing itself.

--
Les Cargill

Your theories make no sense
never board the cruise ship if you plan to live 100 years #StopAgeing

 

[server]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 22:23:43 -0500, Les Cargill <lcargil99@gmail.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
snip

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?



I expect it\'s been a pattern from other flu like virii. In ther
absence of facts what\'s left is narrative.

At this point; machts nicht. I got a call tonite from somebody who
tested positive; of advanced ( > 60 ) years and it weren\'t nothing.

Our stories probably hurt us worse than the thing itself.

The isolation and shutdowns probably killed more people than the
virus. And may have contributed to the new mutations by stretching the
pandemic out in time.

 

[a a]

On Saturday, 30 July 2022 at 15:28:56 UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 22:23:43 -0500, Les Cargill <lcar...@gmail.com
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
snip

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?



I expect it\'s been a pattern from other flu like virii. In ther
absence of facts what\'s left is narrative.

At this point; machts nicht. I got a call tonite from somebody who
tested positive; of advanced ( > 60 ) years and it weren\'t nothing.

Our stories probably hurt us worse than the thing itself.
The isolation and shutdowns probably killed more people than the
virus. And may have contributed to the new mutations by stretching the
pandemic out in time.

fake

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 11:20:01 PM UTC-4, Les Cargill wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:28:36 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"We do have one analysis where we show essentially that the chance of having this pattern of cases [clustered around the market] is 1 in 10 million [if the market isn\'t a source of the virus]. We consider that strong evidence in science.\"- lead investigator

Maybe the lab tech who spilled viruses on herself shopped at the
market.

There were also stories of lab animals being sold in the wet market.

Of the tens of thousands of wet markets in china, is it a coincidence
that the one within walking distance to a lab, doing poorly managed
research on bat viruses, was the origin? Absurd.

There is so much energy expended to deny the possibility that
gain-of-function research on bat viruses could have gone wrong.

Why?

One theory of the 1918 flu epidemic is that people at a military
base in Kansas burned a lot of cow poop and this was then ground zero
for the epidemic.

I didn\'t hear about this until at least 90 years after the actual event.

100 years would be closer.

It just takes a long time to settle the stories out. Trying to get
in front of it is risky.

If the so-called theory does not originate with a seasoned and proven medical researcher, it is probably total bullshit.

Turns out the epidemiological studies performed at the time by very gifted researchers, some of whom later won Nobel prizes for other work, were extraordinarily comprehensive and dead on.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

The MD providing care to Haskell County residents recorded his first cases in January 1918. Transmission pig-to-pig and pig-to-human was exacerbated by the fact that pigs must be kept indoors and warm during cold weather, especially in Kansas which used to get biting cold. Ventilation was bad and the air was full of infectious droplets. And not every pig farmer is a genius..

https://www.ksre.k-state.edu/historicpublications/pubs/SB243.pdf

Pigs are contracting and mutating influenza all the time. Even to this day there are cases of pig transmitting variant influenza to humans, and these cases are investigated by CDC which is tasked with surveilling this specific transmission.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/swineflu/influenza-in-swine.htm

The same caliber of epidemiological expertise was brought to bear on the Wuhan investigation. Believe it.

--
Les Cargill

 

[Les Cargill]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 22:23:43 -0500, Les Cargill <lcargil99@gmail.com
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
snip

Certainly. The Chinese aren\'t being very candid. But so many people
are helping them explain it away. Why?



I expect it\'s been a pattern from other flu like virii. In ther
absence of facts what\'s left is narrative.

At this point; machts nicht. I got a call tonite from somebody who
tested positive; of advanced ( > 60 ) years and it weren\'t nothing.

Our stories probably hurt us worse than the thing itself.

The isolation and shutdowns probably killed more people than the
virus. And may have contributed to the new mutations by stretching the
pandemic out in time.

We\'ll never actually know. There\'s no baseline.

--
Les Cargill