new hard drive problem

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Walter Hrutka

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I recently upgraded my hard drive to a Maxtor 20GB and the problem is when I
boot the computer and load the OS(winxp) the message I get is "no hard drive
installed". What could the problem be? I checked the IDE and P/S connections
and they are O.K. Also I tried rebooting the computer and then the windows
setup gave me a message"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code 4"
Does anyone know what thes messages mean? Thanks for any help.




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Quotin' Quotin' Quotin' Walter Hrutka:
I recently upgraded my hard drive to a Maxtor 20GB and the problem is when I
boot the computer and load the OS(winxp) the message I get is "no hard drive
installed". What could the problem be? I checked the IDE and P/S connections
and they are O.K. Also I tried rebooting the computer and then the windows
setup gave me a message"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code 4"
Does anyone know what thes messages mean? Thanks for any help.
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Is the drive enabled on the BIOS? Is it properly set as slave?

For a text, grab a MS-DOS bootdisk, then format the new HD and use one of those
"live" Linux distros (e.g. Knopixx, Damn Small) to check for basic
drive functionality.

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HI THERE .


YOU MIGHT THINK THIS SOUNDS DAFT
but i can asure you , it cured a problem my friend had ,
he simply used a shorter lenght IDE lead

its worth a try

de Paul



"Walter Hrutka" <wph4@mycybernet.net> wrote in message
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I recently upgraded my hard drive to a Maxtor 20GB and the problem is when
I
boot the computer and load the OS(winxp) the message I get is "no hard
drive
installed". What could the problem be? I checked the IDE and P/S
connections
and they are O.K. Also I tried rebooting the computer and then the
windows
setup gave me a message"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code
4"
Does anyone know what thes messages mean? Thanks for any help.




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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:40:14 -0500 "Walter Hrutka"
<wph4@mycybernet.net> wrote:

I recently upgraded my hard drive to a Maxtor 20GB and the problem is when I
boot the computer and load the OS(winxp) the message I get is "no hard drive
installed". What could the problem be? I checked the IDE and P/S connections
and they are O.K. Also I tried rebooting the computer and then the windows
setup gave me a message"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code 4"
Does anyone know what thes messages mean? Thanks for any help.
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Do you have the jumpers set correctly on the new drive? Do you have
both power and data cables connected to it AND the motherboard or
power supply?

Have you gone into your BIOS (also called Setup) since you added the
extra drive. You have to hit an extra key when prompted at the
beginning of the boot process. Once in there you have to find the
place where the hard drive parameters are stored and make sure the
BIOS has recognized your new drive.

If you've never done this before, you might want to seek help from
someone who has. Just a friend or neighbor who has seen this can help.

Once the BIOS recognizes the drive you need to create a partition on
it and format that partition. You may also need some help on this
part. XP Disk Manager may be able to partition and format the drive
for you.

Windows can't see the drive until the PC hardware and firmware (the
BIOS) recognizes it AND there is a formatted partition on it.

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Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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| Have you gone into your BIOS (also called Setup) since you added the
| extra drive. You have to hit an extra key when prompted at the
| beginning of the boot process. Once in there you have to find the
| place where the hard drive parameters are stored and make sure the
| BIOS has recognized your new drive.

Based on fact the OP is upgrading to a 20gig drive in these
days of 80gig drive going for $40, there is ALSO....
the (slim) possiblity that the BIOS is forgetting things
since the battery on the motherboard is going dead.

Have a look on the Mboard for probably a quarter or 1/2 dollar
sized roundf battery. Check to see it's putting out rated voltage.


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There is no machine that can do the work of one extraordinary man.
 
"Rick (Š)" <giganews.t.wilmington@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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| Have you gone into your BIOS (also called Setup) since you added the
| extra drive. You have to hit an extra key when prompted at the
| beginning of the boot process. Once in there you have to find the
| place where the hard drive parameters are stored and make sure the
| BIOS has recognized your new drive.

Based on fact the OP is upgrading to a 20gig drive in these
days of 80gig drive going for $40, there is ALSO....
the (slim) possiblity that the BIOS is forgetting things
since the battery on the motherboard is going dead.

...and if 20GB is a significant upgrade, maybe the BIOS is so old it only
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supports HDD up to 8.4GB. Go ask the folks at wimsbios.com forums.
 
I went into the bios as suggested and changed the boot sequence to boot from
CD and then the OS(Winxp) loaded correctly and it worked just fine. I then
shutdown and unplugged the computer overnite. This morning I turned it back
on and it would not boot properly giving me error messages about files
missing/or corrupted. I installed the original OS CD but it would not load
this time giving me error messages. Do I maybe have hardware problems?
"Cornelius J Rat" <corneliusjratNO@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40687d97$0$3307$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
"Rick (Š)" <giganews.t.wilmington@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
news:af2dnegh3flr4_rdRVn-jA@comcast.com...
| Have you gone into your BIOS (also called Setup) since you added the
| extra drive. You have to hit an extra key when prompted at the
| beginning of the boot process. Once in there you have to find the
| place where the hard drive parameters are stored and make sure the
| BIOS has recognized your new drive.

Based on fact the OP is upgrading to a 20gig drive in these
days of 80gig drive going for $40, there is ALSO....
the (slim) possiblity that the BIOS is forgetting things
since the battery on the motherboard is going dead.

..and if 20GB is a significant upgrade, maybe the BIOS is so old it only
supports HDD up to 8.4GB. Go ask the folks at wimsbios.com forums.
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I went into the bios as suggested and changed the boot sequence to boot from
CD and then the OS(Winxp) loaded correctly and it worked just fine. I then
shutdown and unplugged the computer overnite. This morning I turned it back
on and it would not boot properly giving me error messages about files
missing/or corrupted. I installed the original OS CD but it would not load
this time giving me error messages. Do I maybe have hardware problems?

"Walter Hrutka" <wph4@mycybernet.net> wrote in message
news:4065e7b2$1_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
I recently upgraded my hard drive to a Maxtor 20GB and the problem is when
I
boot the computer and load the OS(winxp) the message I get is "no hard
drive
installed". What could the problem be? I checked the IDE and P/S
connections
and they are O.K. Also I tried rebooting the computer and then the
windows
setup gave me a message"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code
4"
Does anyone know what thes messages mean? Thanks for any help.




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"Walter Hrutka" <wph4@mycybernet.net> wrote in message
news:406b10ed$1_4@corp.newsgroups.com...
I went into the bios as suggested and changed the boot sequence to boot
from
CD and then the OS(Winxp) loaded correctly and it worked just fine. I then
shutdown and unplugged the computer overnite. This morning I turned it
back
on and it would not boot properly giving me error messages about files
missing/or corrupted. I installed the original OS CD but it would not load
this time giving me error messages. Do I maybe have hardware problems?

Sounds like a dead or near dead BIOS battery. Go back into your BIOS
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settings and see if the boot sequence has changed back. Should go something
like this. Floppy/CD-ROM/HD0.
 
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:07:33 -0500 "Walter Hrutka"
<wph4@mycybernet.net> wrote:

I went into the bios as suggested and changed the boot sequence to boot from
CD and then the OS(Winxp) loaded correctly and it worked just fine.
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While you were in setup did you check to see if your new hard drive is
recognized properly? There's no point to any of this until you do
that.

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Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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1. New Hard drive, installed with WinXP
2. After presumably working OK, suddenly, on boot-up,
machine says it does not recognize it has a hard drive.
3. Machine then says:
"file setupdd.sys could not be loaded, error code 4"

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Microsoft Support page
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315252&Product
=winxp
refers to following:
Bug Check 0xC4 DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION, which is defined as
0xC4, is the general bug check code for fatal errors that Driver
Verifier finds. The accompanying parameters are the parameters that
are passed to KeBugCheckEx and displayed on a blue screen.
===================================

However... "setupdd.sys" appears to be a driver file associated
not (exactly) with WinXP, but with WinNT
(( WinXP is -as I understand it- a variant of WinNT ))


Questions we need answered to help you -

1. Did you upgrade from a different OS, or was this a clean install
of WinXP ??
2. Is this drive a cloned copy of the old drive -- which had WinXp
on it ??
3. What kind of machine (( Brand, Laptop, Desktop)) ??
4. What CPU is it ((Pentium I, PII, PII, PIV, Celeron, Duron,
Atlalon )) ??
5. How old is the machine ---
When you light it up, and the BIOS posts, what is the date
of the BIOS and the manufacturer of the BIOS & Version ??

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One machine can do the combined work of fifty ordinary men.
There is no machine that can do the work of one extraordinary man.
 
ALso... here's a forum where someone had a similar problem...
and solution was new RAM of all things.

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56128&goto=nextnewest


Here is MS article
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330181
 
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