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Fred Bloggs
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\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
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New England Journal Of Medicine Unusual and Scathing Editorial...
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Flyguy
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong. In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong. In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
R
Robert Baer
Guest
Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"We should not abet them and enable the deaths of thousands more
Americans by allowing them to keep their jobs.\"
YES!!\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
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\"We should not abet them and enable the deaths of thousands more
Americans by allowing them to keep their jobs.\"
R
Robert Baer
Guest
Flyguy wrote:
You are simply out of it..On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong. In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
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John Doe
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Idiot...
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Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong. In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
You are simply out of it..
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
Taiwan, South Korea and New Zealand aren\'t in the least totalitarian.
> But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong.
The USA is right in middle of a bunch of about eighteen countries who have death rates from Covid19 from about 500ppm to about 1000 ppm.
It\'s made the same kinds of mistakes as all these countries. Lots of countries have done better - some as much as 100 times better.
The US has clearly handled the pandemic badly, and nobody has done dramatically worse.
> In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times..
None of which has stopped the US population dying in large numbers.
> The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
Try being more like Taiwan, which did even better than Communist China - with 0.3 ppm deaths. It was well prepared.
South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand have only done about one hundred times better than the US, and none of them are totalitarian enough to complain about. Australia is at 35 ppm deaths at the moment - it was at 5 ppm until we had a single dramatic screw up in the state of Victoria.
We\'d need to have managed to have twenty screw ups on the same scale to catch up with the US.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
Taiwan, South Korea and New Zealand aren\'t in the least totalitarian.
> But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong.
The USA is right in middle of a bunch of about eighteen countries who have death rates from Covid19 from about 500ppm to about 1000 ppm.
It\'s made the same kinds of mistakes as all these countries. Lots of countries have done better - some as much as 100 times better.
The US has clearly handled the pandemic badly, and nobody has done dramatically worse.
> In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times..
None of which has stopped the US population dying in large numbers.
> The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
Try being more like Taiwan, which did even better than Communist China - with 0.3 ppm deaths. It was well prepared.
South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand have only done about one hundred times better than the US, and none of them are totalitarian enough to complain about. Australia is at 35 ppm deaths at the moment - it was at 5 ppm until we had a single dramatic screw up in the state of Victoria.
We\'d need to have managed to have twenty screw ups on the same scale to catch up with the US.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Doe
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Here we have a fool and/or a shyster, who believes what Communist China
says, even after it kicked out Western journalists for the obvious reason.
This poster is nothing but an America-hating troll...
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had a single dramatic screw up in the state of Victoria.
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This poster is nothing but an America-hating troll...
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On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people
- no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chin
ese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people
-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surve
illance.html
Taiwan, South Korea and New Zealand aren\'t in the least totalitarian.
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is ju
st flat-out wrong.
The USA is right in middle of a bunch of about eighteen countries who have
death rates from Covid19 from about 500ppm to about 1000 ppm.
It\'s made the same kinds of mistakes as all these countries. Lots of
countries have done better - some as much as 100 times better.
The US has clearly handled the pandemic badly, and nobody has done
dramatically worse.
In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created nov
el treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
None of which has stopped the US population dying in large numbers.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
Try being more like Taiwan, which did even better than Communist China -
with 0.3 ppm deaths. It was well prepared.
South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand have only done about one hundred
about. Australia is at 35 ppm deaths at the moment - it was at 5 ppm until we
had a single dramatic screw up in the state of Victoria.
We\'d need to have managed to have twenty screw ups on the same scale to
catch up with the US.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
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On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 5:31:40 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Nothing in what I wrote depends on accepting Communist China\'s claims. I went to some trouble to point out that some more credible countries have done nearly as well as China claims to have done, and that Taiwan has done even better.
> This poster is nothing but an America-hating troll...
If I hated America I\'d encourage you to stick with Trump. He\'s doing a lot of damage.
The top-posting troll is a fool who can\'t do joined-up logic. He\'d be a shyster if he wasn\'t stupid enough to believe the nonsense he posts
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 2:00:08 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people
- no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chin
ese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people
-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surve
illance.html
Taiwan, South Korea and New Zealand aren\'t in the least totalitarian.
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is ju
st flat-out wrong.
The USA is right in middle of a bunch of about eighteen countries who have
death rates from Covid19 from about 500ppm to about 1000 ppm.
It\'s made the same kinds of mistakes as all these countries. Lots of
countries have done better - some as much as 100 times better.
The US has clearly handled the pandemic badly, and nobody has done
dramatically worse.
In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created nov
el treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
None of which has stopped the US population dying in large numbers.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
Try being more like Taiwan, which did even better than Communist China -
with 0.3 ppm deaths. It was well prepared.
South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand have only done about one hundred
times better than the US, and none of them are totalitarian enough to complain
about. Australia is at 35 ppm deaths at the moment - it was at 5 ppm until we
had a single dramatic screw up in the state of Victoria.
We\'d need to have managed to have twenty screw ups on the same scale to
catch up with the US.
Here we have a fool and/or a shyster, who believes what Communist China
says, even after it kicked out Western journalists for the obvious reason.
Nothing in what I wrote depends on accepting Communist China\'s claims. I went to some trouble to point out that some more credible countries have done nearly as well as China claims to have done, and that Taiwan has done even better.
> This poster is nothing but an America-hating troll...
If I hated America I\'d encourage you to stick with Trump. He\'s doing a lot of damage.
The top-posting troll is a fool who can\'t do joined-up logic. He\'d be a shyster if he wasn\'t stupid enough to believe the nonsense he posts
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
F
Flyguy
Guest
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 8:54:23 PM UTC-7, Robert Baer wrote:
I was thinking the SAME thing about YOU!
Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
\"Dying in a Leadership Vacuum\"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
.
When you have a totalitarian society it is a lot easier to control people - no testy Constitution or Bill of Rights to deal with:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-quarantine/sealed-in-chinese-trapped-at-home-by-coronavirus-feel-the-strain-idUSKCN20G0AY
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-chinese-officials-lock-people-homes-ban-funerals-weddings-zhejiang-2020-2
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronavirus-wuhan-surveillance.html
But the basic premise that the US has handled this pandemic \"badly\" is just flat-out wrong. In fact, we have done original research, developed new tests, created novel treatments and will soon have multiple vaccines in record breaking times.
The NEJM wants us to be more like the CHICOMs. To this, I say FUCK NO!!!
You are simply out of it..
I was thinking the SAME thing about YOU!