.NET Framework ??

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Jim Thompson

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I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness
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Yes

or should I uninstall it as well?
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No.
 
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson
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No..... your computer worked before it was installed your computer will work
after you get rid of it.

I know three fifths of bugger all about this stuff but .NET is some new
MicroCrap crap which is another layer of shit MicroCrap are layering on top
of their other crap to 'consolidate' programming under Windows.

The fact that this calendar program had to install bits or all of the .NET
framework just so it could tell you what day of the week it is and was shit
at doing that just tells you it is a shit piece of software...... probably
written in Visual NET or some other MicroCrap Crap....

You can now get Borland Turbo Delphi for free and write applications for
commercial use. That uses the .NET framework BUT produces stand alone
executables that do not need to install .NET crap on your computer to work.

Fortunately Homer has me on plonk so he won't be able to comment on the crap
I just wrote.

DNA

I am not associated with the IAENG. ;-)
 
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:k61ct2t60icdg2geptsgpg9uevea065jn8@4ax.com...
I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?
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You'll need it if you ever intend to run any software written in Microsoft's
".Net" languages (C#, VB.net, etc.). If you know the framework wasn't
installed before using the calendar program (something that might not be
clear -- a crappy calendar program is liable to try to install the framework
even if it was already present), then you can safely remove it.

Worst case you'd just have to visit Microsoft.Com and re-install the framework
if suddenly some program refused to run...

---Joel
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson
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I think .net is standard on an XP system.

John
 
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?
Click to expand...

Most of the replies you've received were correct but nobody said it was
MS replacement for the loss of Java....I try not to load it but it is
becoming
harder to run without it. For instance, the professional version of
Quickbooks
requires it as do the HP printer driver though the later may only be for
that
stupid photo publishing crap I don't want in the first place!


..NET does indeed appear to be more crap upon crap
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:48:37 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson


I think .net is standard on an XP system.

John
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No. My surfing around says it's standard on Server 2003 and Vista.
".NET Framework" shows as an installed program in add/remove programs.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in message
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.NET does indeed appear to be more crap upon crap
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It is what it is. You do need it for a lot of software.


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Jim Thompson wrote:
I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?
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Its logically similar to Java's runtime. If you have apps that require
it, you need it.

I'm not sure how one would do this on a Windows platform, but see if
there is some sort of process and/or resource tracking app. that can
tell you what components are using memory. Microsoft (according to some
wizards) has a habit of loading lots of crap (DLLs, etc.) into memory at
startup so that apps will load faster when called up. If the .NET
runtime does this and you don't need it, either turn off this preload
(I'm not sure how) or delete it.

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:48:37 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson


I think .net is standard on an XP system.

John

No. My surfing around says it's standard on Server 2003 and Vista.
".NET Framework" shows as an installed program in add/remove programs.

You can uninstall it or leave it, its not doing any harm.
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Cheers
 
On 2007-02-16, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?
Click to expand...
not by itself, you might come across other software that uses it
but by then you may need to upgrade it anyway


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Bye.
Jasen
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:55:07 GMT, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:48:37 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson


I think .net is standard on an XP system.

John

No. My surfing around says it's standard on Server 2003 and Vista.
".NET Framework" shows as an installed program in add/remove programs.

You can uninstall it or leave it, its not doing any harm.

Cheers
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Most people are migrating to managed code now, so be it java runtime
or .net framework its probably worth keeping. It's not (or was not)
standard on XP either BTW.
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:32:09 GMT, "Genome" <mrspamizgood@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:k61ct2t60icdg2geptsgpg9uevea065jn8@4ax.com...
I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson

No..... your computer worked before it was installed your computer will work
after you get rid of it.
Click to expand...
Yes, but more and more people are using .net. Once installed, thats
it.

I know three fifths of bugger all about this stuff but .NET is some new
MicroCrap crap which is another layer of shit MicroCrap are layering on top
of their other crap to 'consolidate' programming under Windows.
Click to expand...
Its the same as java.

The fact that this calendar program had to install bits or all of the .NET
framework just so it could tell you what day of the week it is and was shit
at doing that just tells you it is a shit piece of software...... probably
written in Visual NET or some other MicroCrap Crap....
Click to expand...
Actually, its probably more robust and secure than any borland app.

You can now get Borland Turbo Delphi for free and write applications for
commercial use. That uses the .NET framework BUT produces stand alone
executables that do not need to install .NET crap on your computer to work.
Click to expand...
Borland Delphi just wraps up MFC anyway, so therefore it is just a
layer of crap sitting upon windows. Might as well just do it in c#.
You can get the Visual Studio Express for free now too, and you are
even allowed to write commercial code with it. If you dont want .net,
then use the free Visual STudio express c++ edition and write an
unmanaged c++ MFC application.

Fortunately Homer has me on plonk so he won't be able to comment on the crap
I just wrote.
Click to expand...
No great loss there.

DNA

I am not associated with the IAENG. ;-)
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"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote in message
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No..... your computer worked before it was installed your computer will
work
after you get rid of it.

Yes, but more and more people are using .net. Once installed, thats
it.
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Removing and reinstalling software may lead to corruption.


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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
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I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?
Click to expand...
It's a windows thing - once it is on there, you might as well leave it be. I got
it with an ATI graphics driver.
 
"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Its the same as java.


Actually, its probably more robust and secure than any borland app.

Borland Delphi just wraps up MFC anyway, so therefore it is just a
layer of crap sitting upon windows. Might as well just do it in c#.
You can get the Visual Studio Express for free now too, and you are
even allowed to write commercial code with it. If you dont want .net,
then use the free Visual STudio express c++ edition and write an
unmanaged c++ MFC application.


No great loss there.
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Shows how much I know then... Time to download more stuff?

DNA
 
The Real Andy wrote:
Genome wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:
I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it
as well?

No..... your computer worked before it was installed your computer
will work after you get rid of it.

Yes, but more and more people are using .net. Once installed, thats
it.
Click to expand...
I'd also recommend not uninstalling it, unless you're really sure you'll
never be running any .NET apps before you reinstall Windows. The
uninstaller, IME, often leaves enough junk around such that any future .NET
frameworks won't work properly. As far as I can tell, it doesn't do any harm
besides consuming disk space.

[...]
Actually, its probably more robust and secure than any borland app.
Click to expand...
Even numbered version, no argument. Odd numbered version are generally
pretty good though :)

[...]
Borland Delphi just wraps up MFC anyway
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The non-.NET version of Delphi uses it's own component library (VCL or CLX)
not MFC. It sits on top of the Win32 layer, so is at the same level as MFC
(or .NET framework for that matter). The .NET versions of Delphi (or the
C++/C# variants) can either use the winforms library (requires deployment of
the full .NET runtime) or VCL.NET (which can run "self contained" and does
not need a .NET runtime installed).

Mixing MFC classes in with any of these version is ... unpleasent.

[...]

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Michael Brown
Add michael@ to emboss.co.nz - My inbox is always open
 
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
I'd leave it installed. More and more programs are using .NET.
Unfortunately, it's looking more like a MFC piece of crap with version
problems. I recently ran across a program that required .NET 1.1, even
if you had version 2 installed. Perhaps it's due to crappy programming
that they required v1.1. I haven't seen any bad issues leaving it
installed.

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Mark
 
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:53:11 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson

I'd leave it installed. More and more programs are using .NET.
Unfortunately, it's looking more like a MFC piece of crap with version
problems. I recently ran across a program that required .NET 1.1, even
if you had version 2 installed. Perhaps it's due to crappy programming
that they required v1.1. I haven't seen any bad issues leaving it
installed.

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Mark
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OK. I'll leave it. (It's v1.1)

...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
The Real Andy wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:32:09 GMT, "Genome" <mrspamizgood@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:k61ct2t60icdg2geptsgpg9uevea065jn8@4ax.com...

I downloaded a calendar program that also installed ".NET Framework"

I uninstalled the calendar... pure crap.

Does ".NET Framework" have any usefulness, or should I uninstall it as
well?

...Jim Thompson

No..... your computer worked before it was installed your computer will work
after you get rid of it.


Yes, but more and more people are using .net. Once installed, thats
it.


I know three fifths of bugger all about this stuff but .NET is some new
MicroCrap crap which is another layer of shit MicroCrap are layering on top
of their other crap to 'consolidate' programming under Windows.


Its the same as java.
Click to expand...
Sorry it's not.
but that doesn't mean it's any good either.
The fact that this calendar program had to install bits or all of the .NET
framework just so it could tell you what day of the week it is and was shit
at doing that just tells you it is a shit piece of software...... probably
written in Visual NET or some other MicroCrap Crap....


Actually, its probably more robust and secure than any borland app.
Click to expand...
Bad comment to make, Borland apps have nothing to do with security
issues, it's the people writing the code and that's where the problem
is. .NET Robust? i don't think so. Cripple and slow ? yes/.
Microsoft loves people like you, easy brain washing.
You can now get Borland Turbo Delphi for free and write applications for
commercial use. That uses the .NET framework BUT produces stand alone
executables that do not need to install .NET crap on your computer to work.


Borland Delphi just wraps up MFC anyway, so therefore it is just a
layer of crap sitting upon windows. Might as well just do it in c#.
You can get the Visual Studio Express for free now too, and you are
even allowed to write commercial code with it. If you dont want .net,
then use the free Visual STudio express c++ edition and write an
unmanaged c++ MFC application.
Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Now you may be
Click to expand...
talking about the VCL. That is Borlands class library and it has no
MFC what's so ever.


Fortunately Homer has me on plonk so he won't be able to comment on the crap
I just wrote.


No great loss there.


DNA

I am not associated with the IAENG. ;-)

Before going off on a tangent, I suggest you get the
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facts straight.
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"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
 
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