Need recco: PC scope

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A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with oscilloscopes
wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on his Tek scope. But I
live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a PC-based scope might be
handy if he could e-mail data files to me in some format that I can use
to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to see what he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I operate
in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a "scope viewer"
module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500

USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc., sync
modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.

--

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
KG6RCR
 
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:
A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with oscilloscopes
wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on his Tek scope. But I
live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a PC-based scope might be
handy if he could e-mail data files to me in some format that I can use
to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to see what he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I operate
in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a "scope viewer"
module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500
Click to expand...
How about FREE!!!

Point a webcam at the scope. I built mine into a scope viewing hood,
but you can use a tripod and throw a towel over it to reduce ambient light.
I use it for still screen captures, but there's no reason you can't
set up something like net meeting or any one of a dozen other programs
to view the webcam remotely. Or you could use VNC or any one of a dozen
other remote access programs to view his screen.

mike

USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc., sync
modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.
Click to expand...


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On 9/20/2005 7:35 PM mike wrote:

Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:

A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with
oscilloscopes wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on his
Tek scope. But I live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a PC-based
scope might be handy if he could e-mail data files to me in some
format that I can use to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to see what
he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I operate
in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a "scope
viewer" module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500


How about FREE!!!

Point a webcam at the scope. I built mine into a scope viewing hood,
but you can use a tripod and throw a towel over it to reduce ambient light.
I use it for still screen captures, but there's no reason you can't
set up something like net meeting or any one of a dozen other programs
to view the webcam remotely. Or you could use VNC or any one of a dozen
other remote access programs to view his screen.
Click to expand...
Might be kind of a flickery viewing experience at my end -- I don't play
around with webcams but the few times I've seen their output it seems to
be pretty low frame rate. Has anyone tried to view a 'scope through a
webcam?

-- mrjs

mike


USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc.,
sync modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.
Click to expand...

--

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
KG6RCR
 
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:
On 9/20/2005 7:35 PM mike wrote:

Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:

A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with
oscilloscopes wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on his
Tek scope. But I live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a
PC-based scope might be handy if he could e-mail data files to me in
some format that I can use to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to
see what he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I
operate in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a
"scope viewer" module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500



How about FREE!!!

Point a webcam at the scope. I built mine into a scope viewing hood,
but you can use a tripod and throw a towel over it to reduce ambient
light.
I use it for still screen captures, but there's no reason you can't
set up something like net meeting or any one of a dozen other programs
to view the webcam remotely. Or you could use VNC or any one of a dozen
other remote access programs to view his screen.


Might be kind of a flickery viewing experience at my end -- I don't play
around with webcams but the few times I've seen their output it seems to
be pretty low frame rate. Has anyone tried to view a 'scope through a
webcam?
Click to expand...
Well, yes, I have!!!
Scope has persistence. AS long as you don't run the sweep too slow, it
don't flicker. If you do run it too slow, there's no way to get rid of
it. The webcam is gonna flicker cause of its frame rate.
And that's gonna flicker 'cause of the network bandwidth.
You can screen capture it and send the file. NO flicker there at all.
I understand your concern if you're making a presentation at a trade
show. Not so clear why it's a serious problem if you're just trying to
help someone fix a problem.

IF you're bent on spending money, I've got just what you need.
TEKTRONIX TDS540
http://nm7u.tripod.com/homepage/te.html
Hook that puppy up to GPIB and It will dance to whatever tune you play.
mike

-- mrjs


mike


USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc.,
sync modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.
Click to expand...


--
Wanted, Serial cable for Dell Axim X5 PDA.
Return address is VALID but some sites block emails
with links. Delete this sig when replying.
FS 500MHz Tek DSOscilloscope TDS540 Make Offer
Bunch of stuff For Sale and Wanted at the link below.
MAKE THE OBVIOUS CHANGES TO THE LINK
ht<removethis>tp://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/4710/
 
On 9/21/2005 3:00 PM mike wrote:

Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:

On 9/20/2005 7:35 PM mike wrote:

Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:

A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with
oscilloscopes wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on
his Tek scope. But I live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a
PC-based scope might be handy if he could e-mail data files to me in
some format that I can use to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to
see what he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I
operate in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a
"scope viewer" module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500




How about FREE!!!

Point a webcam at the scope. I built mine into a scope viewing hood,
but you can use a tripod and throw a towel over it to reduce ambient
light.
I use it for still screen captures, but there's no reason you can't
set up something like net meeting or any one of a dozen other programs
to view the webcam remotely. Or you could use VNC or any one of a dozen
other remote access programs to view his screen.



Might be kind of a flickery viewing experience at my end -- I don't
play around with webcams but the few times I've seen their output it
seems to be pretty low frame rate. Has anyone tried to view a 'scope
through a webcam?


Well, yes, I have!!!
Scope has persistence. AS long as you don't run the sweep too slow, it
don't flicker. If you do run it too slow, there's no way to get rid of
it. The webcam is gonna flicker cause of its frame rate.
And that's gonna flicker 'cause of the network bandwidth.
You can screen capture it and send the file. NO flicker there at all.
I understand your concern if you're making a presentation at a trade
show. Not so clear why it's a serious problem if you're just trying to
help someone fix a problem.
Click to expand...
Who said it was a serious problem?

IF you're bent on spending money, I've got just what you need.
TEKTRONIX TDS540
http://nm7u.tripod.com/homepage/te.html
Hook that puppy up to GPIB and It will dance to whatever tune you play.
mike
Click to expand...
It's a little more than my $500 budget . . .

- mrjs

mike


USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc.,
sync modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.
--
Click to expand...

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
KG6RCR
 
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:

Who said it was a serious problem?


IF you're bent on spending money, I've got just what you need.
TEKTRONIX TDS540
http://nm7u.tripod.com/homepage/te.html
Hook that puppy up to GPIB and It will dance to whatever tune you play.
mike


It's a little more than my $500 budget . . .

- mrjs
Click to expand...
I guess it's all relative. To get me to spend $500 would take a
catastrophe of global proportions. Minor inconveniences get a budget
of 25-cents or thereabouts. ;-)
mike
 
On 9/21/2005 8:36 PM mike wrote:

Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott wrote:


Who said it was a serious problem?


IF you're bent on spending money, I've got just what you need.
TEKTRONIX TDS540
http://nm7u.tripod.com/homepage/te.html
Hook that puppy up to GPIB and It will dance to whatever tune you play.
mike



It's a little more than my $500 budget . . .

- mrjs


I guess it's all relative. To get me to spend $500 would take a
catastrophe of global proportions. Minor inconveniences get a budget
of 25-cents or thereabouts. ;-)
mike
Click to expand...
Your point is well-taken. Your idea of a webcam is a good one. I thank
you for taking the time to make this suggestion, which might work out
just fine!

--

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
KG6RCR
 
A web cam wouldn't do the job? You could see the trace and chat with him
about it - and cost is minimal. Otherwise why not get him to video it and
send you the video on a DVD?


David



"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" wrote:

A friend who is handy with computers but not so handy with oscilloscopes
wants me to help him interpret what he is seeing on his Tek scope. But I
live about 1,000 miles away. It seems like a PC-based scope might be
handy if he could e-mail data files to me in some format that I can use
to "look over his shoulder" on my PC to see what he's been seeing.

Either screen captures, or several seconds of data playback. I operate
in teacher mode with him. Maybe the scope software has a "scope viewer"
module for not much money.

I could use recommendations for something under $500

USB
2 channels
external sync input along with the usual internal line, edge, etc., sync
modes.
8 bits is enough
bandwidth: single-shot mode, to 100kHz; in repetitive mode to 1MHz.
Reliable, voltage-protected inputs
good solid software,
portability not really needed.

--

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
KG6RCR
Click to expand...
 
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