NBN question they haven't answered (that I can see) - plus a

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Des Bromilow

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It's my understanding that if you accept installation of the NBN they
will install a number of cores (2 I presume) into your home from a
street located FOBOT/ aggregation point. It's my understanding they also
remove the copper pair/s from the POTS as part of the install.

Questions:
I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN - I'm
used to still being able to use my cabled phone (not wireless handset)
over POTS due to the power coming from the exchange... I can't see how
that's possible in a "fibre only solution" - Issues I have is to do with
communications during power outages (cyclones, etc) - especially in
relation to emergency services. I've been in cyclone areas where 3-5
days without power is normal - but at least the phones worked.
NBN mob didn't reply back...

Other questions:
If I renew my ADSL contract with xxxx<insert ISP name here> and sometime
during the contract term NBN bangs on my door offering an install, what
would be the status of the contract for the copper service? Commercially
I suspect there would be contract terms and exit penalties, however if
that is the case, then people are trapped between contracts to tie them
to the copper system, and people reluctant to commit to those penalties
- you either have ISPs living month-by-month until NBN rolls through, or
you have people paying more(penalties) on the copper for longer - either
way someone loses.

Is there a commitment to remove the copper? if so, how are those who
refuse (opt out) of NBN going to be serviced?

I'm not trying to start a political discussion over the merits/
liabilities/ efficiencies of NBN under this, or any other guise, but I
do want to understand how it impacts on normal people, and on those who
don't NEED data transfer rates above ADSL or POTS.

Anyone got real life experience on those questions and happy to discuss
here?


Des
 
On 22/05/2011 11:47 PM, terryc wrote:
Des Bromilow wrote:

I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN

Bttery backup in the unit on your end point.
OK - that's a help - thanks.. Any idea on expected "run time" of the
Click to expand...
battery?
Is it backing up the switch, or just a VoIP Phone?

thanks,
Des
 
Des Bromilow wrote:
On 22/05/2011 11:47 PM, terryc wrote:
Des Bromilow wrote:

I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN

Bttery backup in the unit on your end point.
OK - that's a help - thanks.. Any idea on expected "run time" of the
battery?
Is it backing up the switch, or just a VoIP Phone?
Click to expand...
No idea. The switch only. The phone would be your problem.
The real problem is that most people will never change it and suddenly
find out it doesn't work during the next power outage when they need it.
 
On 24/05/2011 1:49 PM, terryc wrote:
Des Bromilow wrote:
On 22/05/2011 11:47 PM, terryc wrote:
Des Bromilow wrote:

I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN

Bttery backup in the unit on your end point.
OK - that's a help - thanks.. Any idea on expected "run time" of the
battery?
Is it backing up the switch, or just a VoIP Phone?

No idea. The switch only. The phone would be your problem.
The real problem is that most people will never change it and suddenly
find out it doesn't work during the next power outage when they need it.

Personally I wont be suppyling power to some unknown clunker kludge
Click to expand...
,naked dsl is fine here atm

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On Tue, 24 May 2011 14:26:09 +1000, atec77 <atec77@hotmail.com> wrote:

:On 24/05/2011 1:49 PM, terryc wrote:
:> Des Bromilow wrote:
:>> On 22/05/2011 11:47 PM, terryc wrote:
:>>> Des Bromilow wrote:
:>>>
:>>>> I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN
:>>>
:>>> Bttery backup in the unit on your end point.
:>> OK - that's a help - thanks.. Any idea on expected "run time" of the
:>> battery?
:>> Is it backing up the switch, or just a VoIP Phone?
:>
:> No idea. The switch only. The phone would be your problem.
:> The real problem is that most people will never change it and suddenly
:> find out it doesn't work during the next power outage when they need it.
:>
:personally I wont be suppyling power to some unknown clunker kludge
:,naked dsl is fine here atm

Once NBN is installed you won't have the option of keeping your copper pair
whether you take it up or not. All Telstra exchanges will be de-commissioned and
pulled out after the completion of NBN. If you plan to be deceased by then it
won't matter....
 
On Mon, 23 May 2011 23:36:06 +0800, Des Bromilow <desbromilow@yahoo.comV2>
wrote:

:On 22/05/2011 11:47 PM, terryc wrote:
:> Des Bromilow wrote:
:>
:>> I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN
:>
:> Bttery backup in the unit on your end point.
:OK - that's a help - thanks.. Any idea on expected "run time" of the
:battery?
:Is it backing up the switch, or just a VoIP Phone?
:
:thanks,
:Des


The Optical Network Terminal (ONT)is powered from the mains supply and you pay
for the power to run it. The back-up battery is (I think) now provided by NBNCo
as part of the installation. When the NBN was being installed in a customer
premises during the initial stages, it was intended that the customer had to
provide his own battery if he wanted the home phone to remain operational during
power outages.
 
On Sun, 22 May 2011 20:25:20 +0800, Des Bromilow <desbromilow@yahoo.comV2>
wrote:

:It's my understanding that if you accept installation of the NBN they
:will install a number of cores (2 I presume) into your home from a
:street located FOBOT/ aggregation point. It's my understanding they also
:remove the copper pair/s from the POTS as part of the install.
:
:Questions:
:I wrote to the NBN mob asking about power outage effects in NBN - I'm
:used to still being able to use my cabled phone (not wireless handset)
:eek:ver POTS due to the power coming from the exchange... I can't see how
:that's possible in a "fibre only solution" - Issues I have is to do with
:communications during power outages (cyclones, etc) - especially in
:relation to emergency services. I've been in cyclone areas where 3-5
:days without power is normal - but at least the phones worked.
:NBN mob didn't reply back...
:
:Other questions:
:If I renew my ADSL contract with xxxx<insert ISP name here> and sometime
:during the contract term NBN bangs on my door offering an install, what
:would be the status of the contract for the copper service? Commercially
:I suspect there would be contract terms and exit penalties, however if
:that is the case, then people are trapped between contracts to tie them
:to the copper system, and people reluctant to commit to those penalties
:- you either have ISPs living month-by-month until NBN rolls through, or
:you have people paying more(penalties) on the copper for longer - either
:way someone loses.
:


http://www.nbnco.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/downloads/publication/NBN%20User%20Guide.pdf
:Is there a commitment to remove the copper? if so, how are those who
:refuse (opt out) of NBN going to be serviced?
:
:I'm not trying to start a political discussion over the merits/
:liabilities/ efficiencies of NBN under this, or any other guise, but I
:do want to understand how it impacts on normal people, and on those who
:don't NEED data transfer rates above ADSL or POTS.
:
:Anyone got real life experience on those questions and happy to discuss
:here?
:
:
:Des


Read the guide
http://www.nbnco.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/downloads/publication/NBN%20User%20Guide.pdf
 
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