NBN adds 300,000 premises to fibre footprint, releases detai

[Don McKenzie]

30 July, 2010 13:05

NBN adds 300,000 premises to fibre footprint, releases details of full coverage.

The $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) optical fibre reach will now cover 93 per cent of homes, schools and
businesses, extending to 300,000 additional premises. The mooted speed is 100 megabits a second.

In a joint announcement, Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, and Communications Minister, Senator Stephen Conroy, confirmed the NBN
fibre footprint will cover places as far apart as Weipa, Tennant Creek, Port Augusta, Albany, Cooma and Warrnambool.

http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/355196/nbn_adds_300_000_premises_fibre_footprint_releases_details_full_coverage/

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About half way down the page, you will see links to larger maps. Here are a couple of direct links.

Victoria:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/victoria.jpg

N.S.W.:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/nsw.jpg

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Cheers Don...


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[z1]

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage system?

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way.
should save them heaps.








On 31/07/2010 5:04 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

30 July, 2010 13:05

NBN adds 300,000 premises to fibre footprint, releases details of full
coverage.

The $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) optical fibre reach
will now cover 93 per cent of homes, schools and businesses, extending
to 300,000 additional premises. The mooted speed is 100 megabits a second.

In a joint announcement, Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, and
Communications Minister, Senator Stephen Conroy, confirmed the NBN fibre
footprint will cover places as far apart as Weipa, Tennant Creek, Port
Augusta, Albany, Cooma and Warrnambool.

http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/355196/nbn_adds_300_000_premises_fibre_footprint_releases_details_full_coverage/


===================================

About half way down the page, you will see links to larger maps. Here
are a couple of direct links.

Victoria:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/victoria.jpg

N.S.W.:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/nsw.jpg

===================================

Cheers Don...

 

[who where]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:33:02 +1000, z1 <z1@127.0.0.1> wrote:

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage system?

because of security, not to mention that maintenance would be a sh1t
of a job

 

[Rob]

On 31/07/2010 11:33 AM, z1 wrote:

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage system?

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way.
should save them heaps.

Brisbane have an old sewerage system beneath the city.

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:33:02 +1000, z1 wrote:

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage
system?

You want to make dirty phone calls do you?

Possibly a great idea for ancient cities with many overlays, but almost
totally useless here.

Useless method in your street. Have a look at the cabling method shown on
their web pages. Now imagine your current system which is likely to go
crumble with heavy rain and imagine that stuffed down the sewer; 100%
aggressive chemically laden water attacking any copper and variably
refracting any light paths.

It might, just might be okay for some runs of NBN trunk cables in the
short term.

Unfortunately, sewage systems are not just places of water and soft
objects, but also get abused as a general toxic waste and anything we can
flush down the dunny or fit down the pipe rubbish dump. Apart from the
toxic environment, any hard object driven by storm waters can do a fair
bit of damage.

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way. should save
them heaps.

1. Brisbane Brisbane Council is not responsible for the NBN.
2. Does Brisbane council manage the sewage system in Brisbane?
3. Any piece of fibre optic cable is not the NBN. Optic fibre in networks
has been around for over 15 years and my SOHO has had it for over 10
years.

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:59:08 +0000, terryc wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:33:02 +1000, z1 wrote:

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage
system?

You want to make dirty phone calls do you?

Possibly a great idea for ancient cities with many overlays, but almost
totally useless here.

Note, given our cityscapes are still largely clean soil, under boring is
probably a reasonable only installation method.

 

[kreed]

On Jul 31, 11:59 am, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:33:02 +1000, z1 wrote:
what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage
system?

You want to make dirty phone calls do you?

Possibly a great idea for ancient cities with many overlays, but almost
totally  useless here.

Useless method in your street. Have a look at the cabling method shown on
their web pages. Now imagine your current system which is likely to go
crumble with heavy rain and imagine that stuffed down the sewer; 100%
aggressive chemically laden water attacking any copper and variably
refracting any light paths.

It might, just might be okay for some runs of NBN trunk cables in the
short term.

Unfortunately, sewage systems are not just places of water and soft
objects, but also get abused as a general toxic waste and anything we can
flush down the dunny or fit down the pipe rubbish dump. Apart from the
toxic environment, any hard object driven by storm waters can do a fair
bit of damage.

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way. should save
them heaps.

1. Brisbane Brisbane Council is not responsible for the NBN.
2. Does Brisbane council manage the sewage system in Brisbane?
3. Any piece of fibre optic cable is not the NBN. Optic fibre in networks
has been around for over 15 years and my SOHO has had it for over 10
years.

I always wondered how they would avoid potential problems with
blockages with having cables wires in the pipes. Also if you have
seen old sewer or stormwater pipes, they tend to wear away at the
bottom. Wouldn't this also happen to cables submerged in constantly
moving contaminated water (ie - the foreign objects in the water such
as shit dirt, paper etc would have an abrasive action ?)

Also how do they plan to mount the cables, just pull them through and
leave them sitting in the bottom of the pipe, (I would think unlikely)
or get installers to go into the pipe & fasten the cable to the roof
of the pipe, (this would only work in really large pipes that you
could get into to do this work, and would be very labour intensive and
therefore costly - not to mention the OHS requirements.)

 

[Don McKenzie]

I think some readers of this thread may be misreading what Brisbane Council has said.

It appears to be based a on google joke:
http://www.google.com/tisp/

Cheers Don...



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[Rod Speed]

z1 wrote:

what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage system?

Because it makes a lot more sense to do it on the
power poles or by punching it thru the nature strip.

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way.

More fool BrizVegas Council.

should save them heaps.

Nope, it actually costs a lot more except in the CBD itself.

On 31/07/2010 5:04 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
30 July, 2010 13:05

NBN adds 300,000 premises to fibre footprint, releases details of
full coverage.

The $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) optical fibre reach
will now cover 93 per cent of homes, schools and businesses,
extending to 300,000 additional premises. The mooted speed is 100 megabits a
second. In a joint announcement, Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, and
Communications Minister, Senator Stephen Conroy, confirmed the NBN
fibre footprint will cover places as far apart as Weipa, Tennant
Creek, Port Augusta, Albany, Cooma and Warrnambool.

http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/355196/nbn_adds_300_000_premises_fibre_footprint_releases_details_full_coverage/


===================================

About half way down the page, you will see links to larger maps. Here
are a couple of direct links.

Victoria:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/victoria.jpg

N.S.W.:
http://demo.idg.com.au/arn/nsw.jpg

===================================

Cheers Don...

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote:

On Jul 31, 11:59 am, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:33:02 +1000, z1 wrote:
what I don't get is this:

why is the NBN in most parts not being installed via the sewerage
system?

You want to make dirty phone calls do you?

Possibly a great idea for ancient cities with many overlays, but
almost totally useless here.

Useless method in your street. Have a look at the cabling method
shown on their web pages. Now imagine your current system which is
likely to go crumble with heavy rain and imagine that stuffed down
the sewer; 100% aggressive chemically laden water attacking any
copper and variably refracting any light paths.

It might, just might be okay for some runs of NBN trunk cables in the
short term.

Unfortunately, sewage systems are not just places of water and soft
objects, but also get abused as a general toxic waste and anything
we can flush down the dunny or fit down the pipe rubbish dump. Apart
from the toxic environment, any hard object driven by storm waters
can do a fair bit of damage.

seems Brisbane Council is thinking of doing it that way. should save
them heaps.

1. Brisbane Brisbane Council is not responsible for the NBN.
2. Does Brisbane council manage the sewage system in Brisbane?
3. Any piece of fibre optic cable is not the NBN. Optic fibre in
networks has been around for over 15 years and my SOHO has had it
for over 10 years.


I always wondered how they would avoid potential problems with
blockages with having cables wires in the pipes. Also if you have
seen old sewer or stormwater pipes, they tend to wear away at the
bottom. Wouldn't this also happen to cables submerged in constantly
moving contaminated water (ie - the foreign objects in the water such
as shit dirt, paper etc would have an abrasive action ?)

Also how do they plan to mount the cables, just pull them through and
leave them sitting in the bottom of the pipe, (I would think unlikely)
or get installers to go into the pipe

That isnt even possible with sewers in suburban areas, they arent anything like that big.

& fasten the cable to the roof of the pipe, (this would only work
in really large pipes that you could get into to do this work,

And there are none of those in suburban areas.

and would be very labour intensive and therefore costly - not to mention the OHS requirements.)

And there is the tiny matter of getting out of the sewer at each house in spades.