My hp 4192A is coming!

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Winfield Hill

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It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA




--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On 30 Jun 2005 13:55:12 -0700, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA
Click to expand...
A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.

John
 
John Larkin wrote...
On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.
Click to expand...
Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
John Larkin wrote...
On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.
Click to expand...
Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Hello Winfield,

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
Click to expand...
What do you want to do with it? Audio stuff?

We use the 4191A which goes to 1GHz. Great tool. Unfortunately the cal
computer board conked a few days ago. Probably the backup battery passed
out but I am not looking forward to lifting that heavy thing. It can
give you a real back pain. No idea why they haven't placed the NiCd
battery nicely on the back panel. I might just do that now.

The nice thing is that the HP folks have put so much in diagnostics into
these things that the display tells you quite accurately where the
patient is sick.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
Winfield Hill wrote:
John Larkin wrote...

On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:


It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.


Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213
Click to expand...
LOL- I see you "sniped" them with 5 seconds to spare....your proxy was
set for 2500 (?) and electron55 must have capped at 2480 or something.
 
On 30 Jun 2005 15:48:34 -0700, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote...

On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.

Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213
Click to expand...

Ebay prices are sure erratic. I just nabbed an SD-22 sampling head for
$1200,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7527101423&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6

but they usually go for a lot more. You just keep bidding low and
eventually you get what you want.

John
 
John Larkin wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote:
John Larkin wrote...
On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.

Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213

Ebay prices are sure erratic. I just nabbed an SD-22 sampling head
for $1200,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7527101423

but they usually go for a lot more. You just keep bidding low and
eventually you get what you want.
Click to expand...
It's also amazing what these folks are selling. Your seller's other
recent sales included a "New Betta Sphere Display Aquarium" for $12,
a "Seaclone 150 skimmer," and a "BRAND NEW BROWN LOUIS VUITTON MENS
WALLET!" - modestly interesting, but no other technical items.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Joerg wrote...
It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!

What do you want to do with it? Audio stuff?
Click to expand...
Audio at 13MHz? For the gold monster-cable crowd, perhaps.

We use the 4191A which goes to 1GHz. Great tool. Unfortunately the cal
computer board conked a few days ago. Probably the backup battery passed
out but I am not looking forward to lifting that heavy thing. It can
give you a real back pain. No idea why they haven't placed the NiCd
battery nicely on the back panel. I might just do that now.
Click to expand...
I have a 4191A, which works well, although I just bought a second one
featuring option 2. Guess I'd better learn about these batteries.

The nice thing is that the HP folks have put so much in diagnostics
into these things that the display tells you quite accurately where
the patient is sick.
Click to expand...
That's good to hear.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Fred Bloggs wrote...
Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213

LOL- I see you "sniped" them with 5 seconds to spare....your proxy was
set for 2500 (?) and electron55 must have capped at 2480 or something.
Click to expand...
I use Bidnapper, recommended. I don't bid round numbers. Pick a
price you like, then bid two increments above, say $2587 for $2500.
This one finished well below my maximum bid. Amazing. :>)


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA
Click to expand...
Forgive my ignorance Win,
what can it be used for ? Yes, the impedance over
the frequency range. That means a oneport. With
some effort it could play network analyzer...

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
 
Rene Tschaggelar wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Forgive my ignorance Win,
what can it be used for ? Yes, the impedance over
the frequency range. That means a oneport. With
some effort it could play network analyzer...
Click to expand...
Did you glance at the datasheet?

Actually, it does have a 2nd input port for gain / phase
measurements. This replicates the combination of three other
instruments I have, used together. When used this way, its
two 1M scope-probe inputs can be used for rapid point-to-point
vector ratio measurements over the 5Hz to 13MHz range.

But it's the impedance-measuring ability I'm most interested
in, which is high-res (20,000 counts), reasonably-accurate
(0.15%) over a wide range (1-ohm to 1M full scale), and rapid
(58 ms/step) for detailed sweeping.

Its frequency resolution is 0.1ppm fs of each of four ranges
(e.g., measure crystals for full modeling). It'll take the
traditional Kelvin 4-wire floating measurements, which I can
do now with other instruments more accurately (and slowly) at
only a small number of frequencies (e.g. quickly find inductor
coil self-resonance), or it'll measure complex impedance into
ground (e.g., measure amplifier closed-loop output impedance),
which I cannot easily do now. That I'm looking forward to.

It's best operated by computer with its HPIB IEEE-488 port for
making detailed charts. I'd prefer to find a few good canned
programs, but I'll probably write some from scratch. One can
bring the data into a spreadsheet, or LABVIEW or MATLAB, etc.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On 30 Jun 2005 18:53:37 -0700, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote...

Winfield Hill wrote:
John Larkin wrote...
On 30 Jun 2005 Winfield Hill wrote:

It's coming, it's coming!!! My hp 4192A is coming!
(see s.e.d. for a copy of the short-form datasheet)

Jun 30, 2005 4:07 PM Departed FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT
2:03 PM Arrived at FedEx location WILLINGTON, CT

Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM Arrived at FedEx location PORTLAND, OR
12:13 AM Left origin AUBURN, WA

Jun 24, 2005 9:34 PM Arrived at FedEx location AUBURN, WA
6:02 PM Package data transmitted to FedEx
3:02 PM Picked up AUBURN, WA

A Beast! What did you pay for it? The brokers want about $9K.

Yes, awwkk, but less on ebay... like this one going for $6k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524591721

Here's one I didn't get, thankfully, at $3,215 -- too much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7525601259
There were two others within the last month, which I also lost,
but for some reason I couldn't find them in eBay's records.

Here's mine, the lowest-price finish lately, who knows why:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7524080213

Ebay prices are sure erratic. I just nabbed an SD-22 sampling head
for $1200,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7527101423

but they usually go for a lot more. You just keep bidding low and
eventually you get what you want.

It's also amazing what these folks are selling. Your seller's other
recent sales included a "New Betta Sphere Display Aquarium" for $12,
a "Seaclone 150 skimmer," and a "BRAND NEW BROWN LOUIS VUITTON MENS
WALLET!" - modestly interesting, but no other technical items.
Click to expand...

So his "buy it now" price was just a guess on his part? Good. But I
wonder where he got the sampling head.

John
 
I'm happy that Win got his 4192A. I've been struggling for forty years or
thereabouts with an elderly Boonton 250B RX meter that is in its final death
throes.

I can't afford a 4191A. Does anybody have a recommendation that will get me
a decent RX or Q meter that will go to at least 300 MHz. with accuracy
somewhere in the neighborhood of +/- 10% or so? I've been dicking around
using known L and C and a grid (gate) dip meter that gets me in the ballpark
for the last month or so, but it is getting tiring.

Suggestions?

Jim
 
In article <mv39c1dqommqu6ohh4rmpq3grpe9qkm9ub@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says...

Ebay prices are sure erratic. I just nabbed an SD-22 sampling head for
$1200,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7527101423&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6

but they usually go for a lot more. You just keep bidding low and
eventually you get what you want.
Click to expand...
I sure hope that's not a hijacked account... selling wildly unrelated
items is a red flag.

-- jm

------------------------------------------------------
http://www.qsl.net/ke5fx
Note: My E-mail address has been altered to avoid spam
------------------------------------------------------
 
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:09:06 -0700, John Miles
<jmiles@pop.removethistomailme.net> wrote:

In article <mv39c1dqommqu6ohh4rmpq3grpe9qkm9ub@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says...

Ebay prices are sure erratic. I just nabbed an SD-22 sampling head for
$1200,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7527101423&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6

but they usually go for a lot more. You just keep bidding low and
eventually you get what you want.

I sure hope that's not a hijacked account... selling wildly unrelated
items is a red flag.

-- jm
Click to expand...
I've only been had a couple times on ebay, one absolute deadbeat (sent
her $25, never got the stuff) and one dead sampling head, $600, but
the very fine print turned out to have said "as is" somewhere.
Considering the price savings compared to an equipment broker, the
risk is worth it.

John
 
Hello Winfield,

It's best operated by computer with its HPIB IEEE-488 port for
making detailed charts. I'd prefer to find a few good canned
programs, but I'll probably write some from scratch. One can
bring the data into a spreadsheet, or LABVIEW or MATLAB, etc.
Click to expand...
Most of these are used in production and that's exactly how they operate
them. I just wish they had put in a more practical port. Ok, maybe it
was too early for Ethernet in those days. But at least a serial port.
Even our logic analyzer which is way older has that. I hate those
expensive GPIB cables that have the flexibility of a garden hose under
pressure.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
Joerg wrote...
I hate those expensive GPIB cables that have the flexibility
of a garden hose under pressure.
Click to expand...
They're cheap on eBay. These big instruments are rack mounted
anyway, so the cable's stiffness is no big deal... I use an
Agilent ethernet-to-GPIB bridge; a veritable pile of ieee-488
instruments can appear on the far side.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Hello Winfield,

I hate those expensive GPIB cables that have the flexibility
of a garden hose under pressure.

They're cheap on eBay. These big instruments are rack mounted
anyway, so the cable's stiffness is no big deal... I use an
Agilent ethernet-to-GPIB bridge; a veritable pile of ieee-488
instruments can appear on the far side.
Click to expand...
Here in the lab it is also kind of rack mounted but the cables are all
in a 10" space between rack and wall. That gets full pretty quickly. Now
that the 4191 needs service and has to be pulled it probably takes two
minutes (and a Motrin for the resulting back ache) to pull but at least
15 minutes to free it from "brush" behind.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
In article <vTlxe.2691$0V3.483@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

..................... I hate those expensive GPIB cables that
have the flexibility of a garden hose under pressure.
Click to expand...
You can get away with a daisy chain of ordinary (34W?)
IDC cable for most (moderate distance) applications.

--
Tony Williams.
 
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