Multiple ways to Heaven ... do not exist

[Rick C. Hodgin]

It is common in our cultures today to embrace the idea that all
spiritual roads lead to the same place, that the Muslim, Buddhist
and other, will arrive in Heaven alongside the Christian and the
Jew.

That is a lie. It is Satan deceiving people into believing a lie
so they will die unforgiven, and damned to eternal Hellfire for
their sin.

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There is ONE way for people to enter in to Heaven and that is
THROUGH the blood of Jesus Christ. You must be forgiven for your
sin, otherwise you die with your sin and are condemned to Hell for
your guilt. If Jesus forgives you for your sin, then you no longer
have sin and are not condemned, but pass from death to life.

https://nohaydiscapacidad.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/jesus-el-puente-de-dios.jpg

There is one way, through the blood of Jesus Christ. He will also
forgive EVERYBODY who comes to Him asking Him to forgive their sin.
Nobody will be turned away. But you must come to Him, and He will
only save those who do.

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It is one of the saddest things I've had to accept about being a
Christian, is that some people will not be saved. You can present
them the same evidence as presented to another person, and the other
person can hear the message, acknowledge they are a sinner, repent,
and be saved. But that first person will hear the same message,
and reject it summarily, choosing to perish in their sin. They
cannot hear the message, because they will not receive it. They
reject God, reject truth, reject salvation, and embrace their own
sin. They do so to their damnation as surely as anything.

The Bible teaches: "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the
word of God" (Romans 10:17).

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If you are concerned about your eternal soul arriving in a conscious
eternal burning lake of fire, and you cannot hear the message today,
then pick up the Bible and start reading it. Faith comes by hearing,
and hearing by the word of God. If you press in and hear it, and
you are being saved, you will be saved.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

 

[Brane2]

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 17.57.12 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

That is a lie. It is Satan deceiving people into believing a lie
so they will die unforgiven, and damned to eternal Hellfire for
their sin.

Or, perhaps, a Bible is a work of Satan, designed to veer unbelievers from the Allah's message, for example ?

 

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-4, Brane2 wrote:

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 17.57.12 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:
That is a lie. It is Satan deceiving people into believing a lie
so they will die unforgiven, and damned to eternal Hellfire for
their sin.

Or, perhaps, a Bible is a work of Satan, designed to veer unbelievers
from the Allah's message, for example ?

Yes. And you can learn the truth of that inquiry by pressing in and
seeking the truth. The Bible will reveal itself in a way which
aligns directly with reality, and it does so flawlessly. The Quran
and other such documents also reveal themselves which convey exactly
what they are as well.

These things I've written in this post and the other post, Brane2,
are given to you to lead you toward an investigation. I implore you
to press in and try to discredit ANYTHING I've written about Jesus,
about the Bible, about our need for salvation. I invite you to
personally challenge it all to the fullest extent ... because if you
do, then you will know the truth, and that truth will make you free
as it made me free.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

 

[Brane2]

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 21.10.17 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

Yes. And you can learn the truth of that inquiry by pressing in and
seeking the truth. The Bible will reveal itself in a way which
aligns directly with reality, and it does so flawlessly. The Quran
and other such documents also reveal themselves which convey exactly
what they are as well.

Come on. There are so many inconsistencies that even most hardened apologists defend is by saying that it has to be understood of context of time etc etc.

WTF are talking about ?
Yes, by cherrypicking "the truth" while jumping a mountains of crap you can assemble your story, but so what ?


After all The Bible is officially version 2.0 of the document, that is if we ignore all variations.

Kuran, OTOH, si being presented as True Word of The God. Which BTW didn't need second attempt to get it "perfect". HE didn't need to "try". He just friggin DID IT. Kuran IIRC also predates the Bible.

Which puts your God deeply in "mee-too" crowd.

 

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 3:24:31 PM UTC-4, Brane2 wrote:

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 21.10.17 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

Yes. And you can learn the truth of that inquiry by pressing in and
seeking the truth. The Bible will reveal itself in a way which
aligns directly with reality, and it does so flawlessly. The Quran
and other such documents also reveal themselves which convey exactly
what they are as well.

Come on. There are so many inconsistencies that even most hardened apologists defend is by saying that it has to be understood of context of time etc etc...

There are no contradictions in the Bible. And it does require that
you have discernment of things in some areas to understand it
properly.

As I say, Brane2, it's not my job to convince you. My job is to teach
you the truth. It's not my job to make you receive it, or to even try
to make you receive it. I speak these words of truth, that we all
have sin, that we are all under judgment and are condemned to Hell
because of our sin, and that Jesus Christ came to set us free from
that judgment. That's the extent of my responsibilities in conveying
this information, save following-up with legitimate questions from
those who are seeking the truth.

For those who will nay-say, the Bible even goes so far as to say
avoid such discussions, because the people who are arguing in that
way are even self-condemned (Titus 3:9-11).

http://biblehub.com/titus/3.htm
http://biblehub.com/titus/3-9.htm
http://biblehub.com/titus/3-10.htm
http://biblehub.com/titus/3-11.htm

It is God who has to draw you to be able to come to Jesus, and to
His teachings (to the truth). That is John 6:44. Until that
happens, you will never believe:

http://biblehub.com/john/6-44.htm
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent
me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

FWIW, I was just like you. I was an atheist and I did not believe
in anything relating to God or Jesus Christ or sin or salvation.
I thought it was a crutch for weak-minded people who could not
stand on their own.

Then, in 2003 I had a dream where I saw Jesus' eyes. It penetrated
into my soul, and because of the change He made within me, drawing
me to His Son, and the changes He made in my life over the next 9
months, I came to faith in July, 2004.

I recorded a video testimony about it back in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivvvs8ZqPUA

It took the inner change before I could believe it, place value on
it, receive it as truth. And that change is real.

It's what I've been trying to teach you ... that until that change
is made within us, we will never know what we don't know because
we're not equipped to know what we don't know, because it's spirit,
and we are flesh, and our spirit is dead because of sin.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

 

[Brane2]

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 21.32.10 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

As I say, Brane2, it's not my job to convince you. My job is to teach
you the truth.

Teaching means convincing by logical arguments, exposed to critic and examination.

 

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:22:59 PM UTC-4, Brane2 wrote:

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 21.32.10 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

As I say, Brane2, it's not my job to convince you. My job is to teach
you the truth.

Teaching means convincing by logical arguments, exposed to critic and examination.

To the person who has been changed by God (John 6:44) and is able to
receive the message of God, they would know within them that what I
have been teaching is true.

To the rest of the people, it will be foolishness to them:

http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-18.htm
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish
foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power
of God.

It requires the spirit nature to be able to receive, which is why
you cannot receive it and place no value on it. You are not at
that place where you say within yourself, "God, I don't know if
you exist or not, but if you do, then I want to know the real and
full truth about it, even if it undoes my prior thinking."

When/if you get to that place, God will open up your understanding
so you can receive the teaching as that which it is, rather than
the nonsense you think it is today.

The same is true for all people. Each person must come to the end
of themselves, be willing to put down the pen scratching out what
they think they know from what is written in the Bible, and stop
also writing in what they want it to say, and be willing to put
down the pen and say, "Okay, I will read it as it is if what it
says is true."

That is the person God changes. He doesn't change the wise and
the clever and the crafty in their own minds:

http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-19.htm
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

You think you know something, Brane2, but it is only because of
sin that you think you know something. When/if you ever become
born again, you'll realize how fully sin had you in its grasp,
and how the devil was literally leading you headlong, at a full
running speed, straight into the flames of Hell.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

 

[rickman]

Brane2 wrote:

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 21.32.10 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

As I say, Brane2, it's not my job to convince you. My job is to teach
you the truth.

Teaching means convincing by logical arguments, exposed to critic and examination.

I guess the only way I can ignore RH is to also ignore you. I'm adding
you to my kill file list... if I can figure out how to do that in
SeaMonkey.

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Rick C

 

[Brane2]

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 22.42.10 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

To the person who has been changed by God (John 6:44) and is able to
receive the message of God, they would know within them that what I
have been teaching is true.

To the rest of the people, it will be foolishness to them:

And I'm sure Kuran has a bunch of similar quotes, not to mention other religions.
So your point is ?

 

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:50:36 PM UTC-4, Brane2 wrote:

Dne sreda, 24. maj 2017 22.42.10 UTC+2 je oseba Rick C. Hodgin napisala:

To the person who has been changed by God (John 6:44) and is able to
receive the message of God, they would know within them that what I
have been teaching is true.

To the rest of the people, it will be foolishness to them:

And I'm sure Kuran has a bunch of similar quotes, not to mention other religions.
So your point is ?

I have made my point.

You are not at a place where you can be taught, Brane2, because you
are not changed by God and are convinced you are right. No matter
what I would write or say or post or quote, you are absolutely and
completely unable to receive any of it because you have not been
changed by God to be able to receive it.

When/if that day comes, only then will you know what I'm talking
about, and what I've been teaching as truth. Until that day, you
will remain as you are now. But if God changes you, then you will
see how real the transformation is, and how complete it is, and
how you could not see what you could not see previously.

There's a reason why the song Amazing Grace has these lyrics:

"I once was lost, but now am found.
Was blind, but now I see."

They are not there by accident. It literally is what happens
when a person is born again. Their entire world changes because
they then see things through the spirit, and not just through
the flesh.

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As I say, the message of the cross is only for those who are
being saved. It is not for other people.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin