Multiple DSL connections on one phone line

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I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

Thanks for the help.
 
JD wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
BEFSR41:
<http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmcat151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_TXT&id=1051384171495>

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JD wrote:

I have a phone line that enters at one end of a house and has a double
plate for the usual 2 phone connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL connection there for
that radio. In the next room, about 16' away from the same radio, I have
a computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in length) is needed to
connect the DSL modem to the radio or to the computer. Is there a
wiring scheme that will work with one modem or are two modems needed?

Thanks for the help.
Get a router.
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
JD wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?


You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
BEFSR41:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmcat151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_TXT&id=1051384171495
Thank you Michael for your help.

The Linksys you mentioned costs $80

I found a much less expensive Dell D-Link wired
router at:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0723741&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-3087823-

EBR-2310 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router.

Cost is $42+

Problem is the note on the page: Works with
Windows Vista

"Software and devices that carry the Works with
Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline
compatibility with PC's running." I use Win2000.
I tried to find more info but they always want
some kind of tag or code, which I have not.
 
Jamie wrote:
JD wrote:


I have a phone line that enters at one end of a house and has a double
plate for the usual 2 phone connections in the room. I want to locate
an Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL connection there
for that radio. In the next room, about 16' away from the same radio,
I have a computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in length) is needed to
connect the DSL modem to the radio or to the computer. Is there a
wiring scheme that will work with one modem or are two modems needed?

Thanks for the help.
Get a router.
Thanks, I'm trying.
 
In article <4B5755CA.BCAA2A10@earthlink.net>,
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

JD wrote:

I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?


You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
BEFSR41:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmca
t151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_T
XT&id=1051384171495
I would definitely NOT recommend Linksys. Recent models have been
cost-reduced to the point of not working any more. I'm about ready to
put my Netgear out on the sidewalk too because it's so buggy.

Some modems already have built-in routers. If so, just add a simple
WAP. A WAP has very little functionality so there's very little to go
wrong with it.
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:15:17 -0800, JD <JD@NoDen.con> wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
JD wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?


You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
BEFSR41:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmcat151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_TXT&id=1051384171495


Thank you Michael for your help.

The Linksys you mentioned costs $80

I found a much less expensive Dell D-Link wired
router at:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0723741&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-3087823-

EBR-2310 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router.

Cost is $42+

Problem is the note on the page: Works with
Windows Vista

"Software and devices that carry the Works with
Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline
compatibility with PC's running." I use Win2000.
I tried to find more info but they always want
some kind of tag or code, which I have not.
That is just a comforting note for those who use Vista, since many
things don't work with Vista.

A router should work with computers using any operating system, or
even any mix of operating systems.

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peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
 
JD wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
JD wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?


You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
BEFSR41:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmcat151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_TXT&id=1051384171495


Thank you Michael for your help.

The Linksys you mentioned costs $80

They can be bought for a lot less. i saw one on the local craigslist
for $15 last week. Also, Check the refurbished units at 'Best Buy' and
other outlet stores. Usually under half price.

When I bought the original version of that router it was $179.


I found a much less expensive Dell D-Link wired
router at:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0723741&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-3087823-

EBR-2310 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router.

Cost is $42+

Problem is the note on the page: Works with
Windows Vista

"Software and devices that carry the Works with
Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline
compatibility with PC's running." I use Win2000.
I tried to find more info but they always want
some kind of tag or code, which I have not.

--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
 
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
I would definitely NOT recommend Linksys. Recent models have been
cost-reduced to the point of not working any more. I'm about ready to
put my Netgear out on the sidewalk too because it's so buggy.
I've had my Linksys WRT54G for about five years. It replaced the
single port version of the BEFSR41, the BEFSR11 when I needed wireless,
and that was used for about five years. In case you haven't noticed,
all computer hardware is barely worth taking home these days.

Some modems already have built-in routers. If so, just add a simple
WAP. A WAP has very little functionality so there's very little to go
wrong with it.

The WAP is a wireless router minus the software and extra Ethernet
ports. The only thing less in hardware is the switch and Ethernet
connectors.


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JD wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a house and has a double
plate for the usual 2 phone connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL connection there for
that radio. In the next room, about 16' away from the same radio, I have
a computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in length) is needed to
connect the DSL modem to the radio or to the computer. Is there a
wiring scheme that will work with one modem or are two modems needed?

Thanks for the help.
Thanks all for the good guidance.
 
On 2010-01-20, JD <JD@NoDen.con> wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.
you can have multiple DSL connections but it's not like that it's
multiple virtual channels to a single DSL router. (no use to you)

there are other products that can push ethernet over phone lines
but wi-fi is probably the best solution for you if you don't want to
drill a 5/8" hole in the wall to poke a "RJ45" cable through.
(or a 1/4" hole if you're prepared to replace the plug on one end)

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length)
those cables are available in lengths upto 164' if you shop around.

is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?
get a modem with an internal router and switch
(or get an external router and/or switch)

then you'll have several "RJ45" sockets so you can cable to both the
computer and the radio.

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Thank you Jasen - now I feel closer to the solution,
or is it my imagination ;-)

Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2010-01-20, JD <JD@NoDen.con> wrote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

you can have multiple DSL connections but it's not like that it's
multiple virtual channels to a single DSL router. (no use to you)
I don't need to use both the radio and the
computer at the same time.
They are in different rooms and I have not learned
how to be in two
rooms at the same time, yet. I'm working on that
too ;-)

there are other products that can push ethernet over phone lines
but wi-fi is probably the best solution for you if you don't want to
drill a 5/8" hole in the wall to poke a "RJ45" cable through.
(or a 1/4" hole if you're prepared to replace the plug on one end)
There is already a hole in that wall, so I need an
RJ45 cable about
20' long with plugs. The radio would be near the
modem and if I had
a switchbox there, a flick would shut off the
radio and send the signals
to the computer.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length)

those cables are available in lengths upto 164' if you shop around.
Thanks for the info

is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

get a modem with an internal router and switch
(or get an external router and/or switch)
......and retire my present modem?

then you'll have several "RJ45" sockets so you can cable to both the
computer and the radio.
I'll need to chew on this for a bit. Thanks again
for your suggestions. :)

Have a great weekend!

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Just as I was about to buy from NewEgg a 4-port
D-Link external router for my computer
I found that I already had a Gigabyte Desktop
Adapter with info: 2.4GHz, 802.11b/g, 54Mbps.
Basically it is an antenna attached to a PCI card,
so I guess the computer must be running if I want
to listen to my Internet radio ???

Last night I temporarily moved the DSL modem to
the radio and it worked very nicely.

Had another thought. If I buy the D-Link router -
it is a box external to the computer -
will it function if the computer is off and I want
to use the radio? The following is about the router:

"Perfect for home or small office use, the D-Link
EBR-2310 offers superior connectivity and
excellent security at a price that's just right.
With four 10/100Mbps Ethernet connectors, the
EBR-2310 can connect up to four PCs or other
network devices. Advanced switching technology
effectively and efficiently manages your network
traffic so that your data keeps flowing, no matter
how much of it there is. "

So I guess the router will work ok when the
computer is down.

TIA
 
JD wrote:

Just as I was about to buy from NewEgg a 4-port D-Link external router
for my computer
I found that I already had a Gigabyte Desktop Adapter with info: 2.4GHz,
802.11b/g, 54Mbps. Basically it is an antenna attached to a PCI card, so
I guess the computer must be running if I want to listen to my Internet
radio ???

Last night I temporarily moved the DSL modem to the radio and it worked
very nicely.

Had another thought. If I buy the D-Link router - it is a box external
to the computer -
will it function if the computer is off and I want to use the radio? The
following is about the router:

"Perfect for home or small office use, the D-Link EBR-2310 offers
superior connectivity and excellent security at a price that's just
right. With four 10/100Mbps Ethernet connectors, the EBR-2310 can
connect up to four PCs or other network devices. Advanced switching
technology effectively and efficiently manages your network traffic so
that your data keeps flowing, no matter how much of it there is. "

So I guess the router will work ok when the computer is down.

TIA
Yes, A wireless router works with out the computer.
you will need to use the computer to set it up how ever. things
like the WAB security log on for wireless connections etc.. Unless you
want to leave it opened! :) Many would love you for that!,. Free internet!
 
Jamie wrote:
JD wrote:

Just as I was about to buy from NewEgg a 4-port D-Link external router
for my computer
I found that I already had a Gigabyte Desktop Adapter with info:
2.4GHz, 802.11b/g, 54Mbps. Basically it is an antenna attached to a
PCI card, so I guess the computer must be running if I want to listen
to my Internet radio ???

Last night I temporarily moved the DSL modem to the radio and it
worked very nicely.

Had another thought. If I buy the D-Link router - it is a box external
to the computer -
will it function if the computer is off and I want to use the radio?
The following is about the router:

"Perfect for home or small office use, the D-Link EBR-2310 offers
superior connectivity and excellent security at a price that's just
right. With four 10/100Mbps Ethernet connectors, the EBR-2310 can
connect up to four PCs or other network devices. Advanced switching
technology effectively and efficiently manages your network traffic so
that your data keeps flowing, no matter how much of it there is. "

So I guess the router will work ok when the computer is down.

TIA
Yes, A wireless router works with out the computer.
you will need to use the computer to set it up how ever. things
like the WAB security log on for wireless connections etc.. Unless you
want to leave it opened! :) Many would love you for that!,. Free internet!
I bought a D-Link 4 port wired router and am very
pleased with it.
Now I am struggling with the Aluratek Internet
radio, especially
the Jukebox. Has anyone conquered this
Radio/Jukebox pair?

TIA
 
JD wrote:
Jamie wrote:
JD wrote:

Just as I was about to buy from NewEgg a 4-port D-Link external
router for my computer
I found that I already had a Gigabyte Desktop Adapter with info:
2.4GHz, 802.11b/g, 54Mbps. Basically it is an antenna attached to a
PCI card, so I guess the computer must be running if I want to listen
to my Internet radio ???

Last night I temporarily moved the DSL modem to the radio and it
worked very nicely.

Had another thought. If I buy the D-Link router - it is a box
external to the computer -
will it function if the computer is off and I want to use the radio?
The following is about the router:

"Perfect for home or small office use, the D-Link EBR-2310 offers
superior connectivity and excellent security at a price that's just
right. With four 10/100Mbps Ethernet connectors, the EBR-2310 can
connect up to four PCs or other network devices. Advanced switching
technology effectively and efficiently manages your network traffic
so that your data keeps flowing, no matter how much of it there is. "

So I guess the router will work ok when the computer is down.

TIA
Yes, A wireless router works with out the computer.
you will need to use the computer to set it up how ever. things
like the WAB security log on for wireless connections etc.. Unless you
want to leave it opened! :) Many would love you for that!,. Free
internet!

I bought a D-Link 4 port wired router and am very pleased with it.
Now I am struggling with the Aluratek Internet radio, especially
the Jukebox. Has anyone conquered this Radio/Jukebox pair?

TIA
CONCLUSION:

The D-Link router works like a charm.

The Aluratek was a piece of trash and I returned it.
Now all I need is a great Internet Radio - <sigh>
 

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