mounting PIRs on plaster

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what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
 
"Joey.G" <jjoey.gold@gmail.com> wrote in message
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what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
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1) Tap around and find the stud or rafter behind it and use wood screws.
2) Use toggle bolts.
3) Use a sky hook.
 
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
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them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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On 22/11/2011 9:25 AM, Joey.G wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:58 am, atec77<ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:> what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe

plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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I thought only Mains Power and Telecom required some with a cable
license to sign it off... Alarm is not Ethernet, Telecoms , or Power.
Can you sign a mandatory Australian standard or only a voluntary one.
The rules state if the device has the potentual to be connected to the
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pots , and being an alarm it has that potentual

My alarm contact advised just screwing the PIR's in without wall
plugs.... but I am be a latte cautious.
he's was wrong , plastic plugs or dabs of silastic work well in the
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right hands
I was hopping not to use wall plugs as the PIRs are very light ( a few
hundred grams) and there may be special screw that I can use.
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again wall plugs
I've googled and went to Bunnings , but they have mounting solutions
for heavy jobs
Joey
bunning are not the definitive solutions carrier , cheap shiity ones yes
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On Nov 22, 12:21 am, "Dennis" <jon.do...@ithemorgue.com> wrote:
"Joey.G" <jjoey.g...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe

1) Tap around and find the stud or rafter behind it and use wood screws.
2) Use toggle bolts.
3) Use a sky hook.
Click to expand...
Thanks... I thought of these.... the PIRs are very light and I have
hoping not to use heavy artillery (toggle bolts, sky hooks)
(I assume a a few hundred grams weight for the PIRs). The PIR mounting
hole is about 3mm in dia.

From a sensing point of view the PIRs are mounted in the top corner of
the corninesses to give full coverage of the room and there is no
wood behind,

I was hoping to use a special plaster screw that could do light jobs.

I rushed around Bunnings last nite and couldn't see anything special
as most are designed for heavy jobs.

Any other pointers appreciated.
Joey
 
On Nov 22, 9:58 am, atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:> what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe

plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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I thought only Mains Power and Telecom required some with a cable
license to sign it off... Alarm is not Ethernet, Telecoms , or Power.
Can you sign a mandatory Australian standard or only a voluntary one.

My alarm contact advised just screwing the PIR's in without wall
plugs.... but I am be a latte cautious.


I was hopping not to use wall plugs as the PIRs are very light ( a few
hundred grams) and there may be special screw that I can use.

I've googled and went to Bunnings , but they have mounting solutions
for heavy jobs
Joey
 
"Joey.G" <jjoey.gold@gmail.com> wrote in news:98652895-8fe0-
46b8-9a05-5a0183068f86@e12g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
Click to expand...
These are the types of things you need, self drilling wall
anchors

http://www.anchor-fixing.com/products/Nylon-Easy-Drive-Anchor-
305743.html

Bunnings will have them. You just screw them in then use a small
self tapping screw to mount your PIR to them.
 
On 22/11/2011 10:33 AM, kreed wrote:
On Nov 22, 8:58 am, atec77<ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:> what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe

plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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In QLD, you don't need that if its in your own property.
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yes you do
While its interesting that someone mentions telephone cabling, the
sham artists tend to try and bundle alarms etc into that category by
claiming that these products should be done to austel standards as
they connect to the phone lines (alarm diallers etc).
wrong information , nice try with the shame claim but a poor strawman
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On Nov 21, 10:41 pm, "Joey.G" <jjoey.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe
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Use those plaster screws. They are a large coarse threaded plastic
thing about 10mm diameter. You just screw it straight into the plaster
with a screwdriver, You then do a normal screw into the centre of it
once it is in the plaster.

If you ever need to permanently remove the device later, these will
just unscrew, and you can bog up the holes without much trouble.


Don't waste time with tape, or with those thin "plaster mount" plastic
things that come with smoke detectors and other sensors. (look like a
masonry plug) While some seem to work ok, I have had these fall out
over time as they are just too thin for the job.
 
On Nov 22, 8:58 am, atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:> what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe

plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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In QLD, you don't need that if its in your own property.

While its interesting that someone mentions telephone cabling, the
sham artists tend to try and bundle alarms etc into that category by
claiming that these products should be done to austel standards as
they connect to the phone lines (alarm diallers etc).
 
atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

Only if you are doing it professionally, anyone can do their own private
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alarm wiring.
 
On 22/11/2011 12:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

Only if you are doing it professionally, anyone can do their own private
alarm wiring.
not according to acma
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ask them unless under directio of a suitably qualified person

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atec77 wrote:
On 22/11/2011 12:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

Only if you are doing it professionally, anyone can do their own private
alarm wiring.
not according to acma
ask them unless under directio of a suitably qualified person

I wonder if you could point me to the regulation that would stop me
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installing a completely independent closed alarm system on my own property.
the only external connection may be a plug pack to charge the battery or
supply the electronics.
 
On 22/11/2011 2:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 22/11/2011 12:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to
fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

Only if you are doing it professionally, anyone can do their own private
alarm wiring.
not according to acma
ask them unless under directio of a suitably qualified person

I wonder if you could point me to the regulation that would stop me
installing a completely independent closed alarm system on my own property.
the only external connection may be a plug pack to charge the battery or
supply the electronics.
acma has a copy of the regs , take a look at structured
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atec77 wrote:
On 22/11/2011 2:44 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 22/11/2011 12:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe
plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to
fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

Only if you are doing it professionally, anyone can do their own
private
alarm wiring.
not according to acma
ask them unless under directio of a suitably qualified person

I wonder if you could point me to the regulation that would stop me
installing a completely independent closed alarm system on my own
property.
the only external connection may be a plug pack to charge the battery or
supply the electronics.
acma has a copy of the regs , take a look at structured
Click to expand...
Can't find anything to stop me.
 
On 2011-11-21, Joey.G <jjoey.gold@gmail.com> wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?
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Ramset wallmates.

Overkill, but piss easy.



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On 2011-11-21, Joey.G <jjoey.gold@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 22, 12:21 am, "Dennis" <jon.do...@ithemorgue.com> wrote:
"Joey.G" <jjoey.g...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:98652895-8fe0-46b8-9a05-5a0183068f86@e12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe

1) Tap around and find the stud or rafter behind it and use wood screws.
2) Use toggle bolts.
3) Use a sky hook.

Thanks... I thought of these.... the PIRs are very light and I have
hoping not to use heavy artillery (toggle bolts, sky hooks)
(I assume a a few hundred grams weight for the PIRs). The PIR mounting
hole is about 3mm in dia.

From a sensing point of view the PIRs are mounted in the top corner of
the corninesses to give full coverage of the room and there is no
wood behind,

I was hoping to use a special plaster screw that could do light jobs.
Click to expand...
I've seen short chip-board screws misused for fixing light loads to
plaster. How long do you want it to last for?


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On Nov 22, 10:30 am, Geoff <pub...@email.com> wrote:
"Joey.G" <jjoey.g...@gmail.com> wrote in news:98652895-8fe0-
46b8-9a05-5a0183068...@e12g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance  Joe

These are the types of things you need, self drilling wall
anchors

http://www.anchor-fixing.com/products/Nylon-Easy-Drive-Anchor-
305743.html

Bunnings will have them. You just screw them in then use a small
self tapping screw to mount your PIR to them.
Click to expand...

Same thing I was talking about. Didnt know the techincal name for them
though.
 
On 11/22/2011 3:32 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2011-11-21, Joey.G<jjoey.gold@gmail.com> wrote:
what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

Ramset wallmates.

Overkill, but piss easy.



Just use wall board screws (or coarse self tappers), if they strip you
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can then convert to plugs.
Turn the screws in with a light touch until they are touching the case.
I mean its not as if you are putting them on and off every week !!

Rheilly P
 
On 22/11/2011 7:09 PM, kreed wrote:
On Nov 22, 11:30 am, atec77<ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 22/11/2011 10:33 AM, kreed wrote:



On Nov 22, 8:58 am, atec77<ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21/11/2011 10:41 PM, Joey.G wrote:> what type of screws or fixing do you suggest?

double sided tape?

thanks in advance Joe

plastic wall plugs , but if you don't know that allow your cabler to fit
them as you need a permit to fit the pir's and cabling

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In QLD, you don't need that if its in your own property.

yes you do

While its interesting that someone mentions telephone cabling, the
sham artists tend to try and bundle alarms etc into that category by
claiming that these products should be done to austel standards as
they connect to the phone lines (alarm diallers etc).

wrong information ,

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nice try with the shame claim but a poor strawman


If you are going to talk like that when its totally uncalled for,
then you can go and fuck yourself you SHITHEAD

wipe your shoes , you have shite on them just like your chin
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