Motor start/stop switch with integrated mini contactor?

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DaveC

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Hi,
I just became aware of this item:

<http://img-europe.electrocomponents.com/images/R3985229-01.jpg>

Data sheet here:

<http://www.pdfdoc.ru/data/pdf42805>

It includes a 2-pole 16A contactor in that little size. Can also be ordered
with the option of external connection for safety stop push-button switch.

I can't find a USA distributor for these. Anybody know where to get these?

The company is in Germany:

<http://www.eichhoff.com/unternehmen_ueber-eichhoff_en.php>

Or is there a domestic (USA) product that is similar?

Thanks,
Dave
 
On Aug 28, 3:03 pm, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
Hi,
I just became aware of this item:

http://img-europe.electrocomponents.com/images/R3985229-01.jpg

Data sheet here:

http://www.pdfdoc.ru/data/pdf42805

It includes a 2-pole 16A contactor in that little size. Can also be ordered
with the option of external connection for safety stop push-button switch..

I can't find a USA distributor for these. Anybody know where to get these?

The company is in Germany:

http://www.eichhoff.com/unternehmen_ueber-eichhoff_en.php

Or is there a domestic (USA) product that is similar?

Thanks,
Dave
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HAVE YOU ASKED "SWITCHES UNLIMITED" ONLINE...THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE
US.

TGITM
 
Crossposted groups omitted

If the Start-Stop switch you're referring to uses the Start button to
mechanically close the contacts (and current latches the contacts closed),
then the Stop button opens the coil's holding-current circuit to allow the
contacts to open.. I've seen these types of switches on workshop machines
from China.
Harbor Freight, or any number of other machine importers/sellers could
probably supply a switch of this type.
The parts lists are available from at least a couple of said companies.

So, if it is this type of switch, any interruption of the coil current will
cause the contacts to open, and cause the machine motor to come to a stop
(until the Start button is used to close the contacts again).. meaning that
a commonly available normally closed (momentary open) switch with the proper
voltage/current ratings wired in series with the coil circuit will also act
as a Stop switch (E-Stop or other terminology).. unless the contacts become
stuck shut..
then the OHshit switch needs to be utilized.

This isn't the standard method commonly used in the US, for
starting/stopping a machine motor, but it is a cheaper way to produce a
motor starter.

--
Cheers,
WB
..............


"DaveC" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.CA7FDEFF01B3217BB01029BF@news.eternal-september.org...
Hi,
I just became aware of this item:

http://img-europe.electrocomponents.com/images/R3985229-01.jpg

Data sheet here:

http://www.pdfdoc.ru/data/pdf42805

It includes a 2-pole 16A contactor in that little size. Can also be
ordered
with the option of external connection for safety stop push-button switch.

I can't find a USA distributor for these. Anybody know where to get these?

The company is in Germany:

http://www.eichhoff.com/unternehmen_ueber-eichhoff_en.php

Or is there a domestic (USA) product that is similar?

Thanks,
Dave
Click to expand...
 
Harbor Freight, or any number of other machine importers/sellers could
probably supply a switch of this type.
The parts lists are available from at least a couple of said companies.
Click to expand...
I've searched for "No-Volt Release" (NVR) switches and have found very, very
few here in N. America. The US definition is a full contactor inside a
housing with a start/stop combo switch on the front. Not my idea of "min".

Europe uses these much more.

HF doesn't list anything like this.

If you know of any manufacturers I'd be glad to know of them.

So, if it is this type of switch, any interruption of the coil current will
cause the contacts to open, and cause the machine motor to come to a stop
(until the Start button is used to close the contacts again).. meaning that
a commonly available normally closed (momentary open) switch with the proper
voltage/current ratings wired in series with the coil circuit will also act
as a Stop switch (E-Stop or other terminology).. unless the contacts become
stuck shut.. then the OHshit switch needs to be utilized.

This isn't the standard method commonly used in the US, for
starting/stopping a machine motor, but it is a cheaper way to produce a
motor starter.
Click to expand...
That's the plan...

Cheers,
WB
Click to expand...
Thanks,
Dave
 
On Aug 30, 1:59 am, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
Harbor Freight, or any number of other machine importers/sellers could
probably supply a switch of this type.
The parts lists are available from at least a couple of said companies.

I've searched for "No-Volt Release" (NVR) switches and have found very, very
few here in N. America. The US definition is a full contactor inside a
housing with a start/stop combo switch on the front. Not my idea of "min"..

Europe uses these much more.

HF doesn't list anything like this.

If you know of any manufacturers I'd be glad to know of them.

SNIP/
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YOU MUST THINK YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOME KIND OF DUMMIES.

"TELEMECANIQUE" HAS THEM......NOW OWNED BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

PATECUM
TGITM
 
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

Dave
 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).
Click to expand...
Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.
Click to expand...
These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:
http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine
<proteusiiv@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch

........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++
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At least DaveC now knows what you are.

PATECUM
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Still eating that stuff Queerjano.

TGITM
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I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
 
On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
Click to expand...
.........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++
PATECUM
TGITM
 
On Aug 30, 9:26 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine





proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch

........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++

At least DaveC now knows what you are.

PATECUM

Still eating that stuff Queerjano.

TGITM

I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
WHAT A GAY LITTLE TWIT YOU ARE....STILL FANTASIZING I'M MR. QUIJANO?
Click to expand...
I'M GOING TO TELL HIS BENEFACTOR ABOUT YOU.
MAYBE HE'LL GIVE YOU THE ANAL REAMING YOU DESIRE, YOU QUEER.
I BET YOU HANG AROUND THESE GROUPS LUSTING FOR COCK, EVER SINCE YOUR
DADDY LEFT YOU.
YOU SAP......QUIT STAINING YOUR PANTS BOTTOM FREAK!
YOU'RE DISGUSTING WILLAMINA.
PATECUM
TGITM
 
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine
proteusiiv@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch

........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++

At least DaveC now knows what you are.

PATECUM

Still eating that stuff Queerjano.

TGITM

I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
Click to expand...

Not anymore. They even made a movie about him and all that pus.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
On Sep 1, 1:51 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine
proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
starters (contactors).

Ignore the troll.

I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.

Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.

These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch

........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++

At least DaveC now knows what you are.

PATECUM

Still eating that stuff Queerjano.

TGITM

I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.

   Not anymore.  They even made a movie about him and all that pus.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Click to expand...
YOU LOW LIFE NO CLASS CREEPS...SEE WHAT YOU DO?
OFF TOPIC CROSSPOSTING CRAP.....YOU MUST BE EXECUTED.
PATECUM
TGITM
 
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
YOU LOW LIFE NO CLASS CREEPS...SEE WHAT YOU DO?
OFF TOPIC CROSSPOSTING CRAP.....YOU MUST BE EXECUTED.
PATECUM
TGITM
Click to expand...

FOAD, you little queer mama's boy. Only queers post in all caps, and
everyone knows it.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
 
On Sep 2, 12:41 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:



YOU LOW LIFE NO CLASS CREEPS...SEE WHAT YOU DO?
OFF TOPIC CROSSPOSTING CRAP.....YOU MUST BE EXECUTED.
PATECUM
TGITM

   FOAD, you little queer mama's boy.  Only queers post in all caps, and
everyone knows it.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Click to expand...
FOAD ?????? NO SHIT, YOU FAGGOTY LTLLE HATEFUL TROLL.....JUST SHUT THE
FUCK UP BEFORE I MENTION THE TIME YOU POSTED YOUR ANUS FOR EVERYONE
TO SEE.......YOU ARE THE ONLY MAMA BOY QUEER ASS IDIOT HERE, ASSHOLE.
VOLTAGE DOESNT KILL...YOU FUCKING IDIOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE ASKED,
FOOL!
PATECUM
TGITM
 
It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of these
arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter
2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning
4/ Street in an Atlanta ghetto
5/ Court of law
 
On Sep 4, 5:43 pm, "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net> wrote:
It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of these
arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter
2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning
4/ Street in an Atlanta ghetto
5/ Court of law
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CHASQUETTE, BUST A MOVE SUCKA!
BOOWAHAHAHAHA !!

PATECUM
 
On Sep 4, 5:43 pm, "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net> wrote:
It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of these
arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter
2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning
4/ Street in an Atlanta ghetto
5/ Court of law
Click to expand...
YOU SHOULD KNOW, YOU ARE HERBY ENJOINDER, YOU BIG DUNCE.
TGITM
 
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:43:32 -0400, Charles wrote:

It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of
these arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter 2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning 4/ Street in an Atlanta
ghetto
5/ Court of law
Click to expand...
Court. There are a couple retards sitting in a Mexican jail facing 30
years for making similar comments on Twitter.

Any time you are threatened like this it's time to act.
 
On Sep 4, 8:28 pm, Teredo <ter...@ipv6.orq> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:43:32 -0400, Charles wrote:
It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of
these arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter 2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning 4/ Street in an Atlanta
ghetto
5/ Court of law

Court. There are a couple retards sitting in a Mexican jail facing 30
years for making similar comments on Twitter.

Any time you are threatened like this it's time to act.
Click to expand...
ONLY A FOOL WOULD TWEET KILL SHOOT TO THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD....

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THEY CAN CAP ROY BOY AFTER THEY NAIL MICHAEL.
ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU DO NOT HIRE MEXICANS TO DO YOUR DIRTY
WORK.
IT'S A SPOOF PERFORMED ONLY BY NATIVES....BOOWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

WALK! OH AND DO NOT FOLLOW ME!
PATECUM
TGITM


I AM A GHOST
 
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