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Robert Baer

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I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.
 
Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.
Click to expand...

This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711

The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.

At a guess, the first and second lines delete the current contents
of the Bags. After it's applied, you can try "Apply to all folders" again
while in the File Explorer thing.

My BagMRU Size is set to 5000, but I'm not an organized-folder guy either.
I use filename_tagging to find stuff.

There is a limit to the size you can use for BagMRU Size,
so don't set it to a million or something. MRU normally means
Most Recently Used, so when the Bags fill up, the oldest folder setting
is tossed and a new folder uses the slot. It's something like
that.

Paul
 
On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 12:55:41 AM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.
Click to expand...

That sounds very goofy. Have you tried the basics like rebooting? It seems like you have gotten the machine in some mode where it won't save your settings.

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On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or without
variable file type column.
Click to expand...

Go Linux. You won't go back.



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On Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:55:41 UTC, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.
Click to expand...

you don't mention whether or not you've done edit, preferences and set all folders to open as you wish.


NT
 
On 10/27/2019 06:55 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

there was an options dialog back in win95 orso, which specified if the folder settings were global or per-folder. try to find it.
Click to expand...
 
Paul wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
  Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
  ALWAYS get icon view!

  How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

  I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

   Thanks.


This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711

The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Click to expand...
* 503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.

******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.

At a guess, the first and second lines delete the current contents
of the Bags. After it's applied, you can try "Apply to all folders" again
while in the File Explorer thing.

My BagMRU Size is set to 5000, but I'm not an organized-folder guy either.
I use filename_tagging to find stuff.

There is a limit to the size you can use for BagMRU Size,
so don't set it to a million or something. MRU normally means
Most Recently Used, so when the Bags fill up, the oldest folder setting
is tossed and a new folder uses the slot. It's something like
that.

   Paul
Click to expand...
 
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 04:55:41 UTC, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

you don't mention whether or not you've done edit, preferences and set all folders to open as you wish.


NT

Been there, done that...useless.
Click to expand...
 
Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 12:55:41 AM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

That sounds very goofy. Have you tried the basics like rebooting? It seems like you have gotten the machine in some mode where it won't save your settings.

Does line-power reset count?
Click to expand...
 
Johann Klammer wrote:
On 10/27/2019 06:55 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

there was an options dialog back in win95 orso, which specified if the folder settings were global or per-folder. try to find it.

Wish i still had an installable version to peruse...
Click to expand...
 
Paul wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
  Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
  ALWAYS get icon view!

  How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

  I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

   Thanks.


This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711
Click to expand...
* STUPID instructions.
** QUOTE **
Windows XP
1. Delete the following registry subkeys:
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\BagMRU
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags
2. Re-create the following registry subkeys:
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
o HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
3. Create and then set the BagMRU Size registry value to 5000 in the
registry subkeys that you created in Step 2.
** END QUOTE **
Why?
Delete the Shell item, and ALL sub-items are then gone including Bags
and BagsMRU.
Delete the ShellNoRoam, and ALL sub-items are then gone including
BagMRU and Bags.
Naturally, they fail to tell you to enter the DWORD sdrwkcab.

So..the re-create will only have the 2 items and zilch subkeys.
Maybe step 3 is the saving grace.
Maybe NOT, as there was no such key..only as a subkey for BOTH Shell
and ShellNoRoam, both of which i carefully re-constructed as was.

Therefore, will see results live..
!!NOPE!!
Totally useless waste of time.

Will exit, fur all ruffled to look at second option below.


The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.
Click to expand...
* Do not see how stupid bag size can possibly change folder ATTTRIBUTES;
in fact i do not see anything in the bags bushwah that would change
folder ATTTRIBUTES.
But; like i said, will exit, fur all ruffled to look at thissecond
option below.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm


******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.

At a guess, the first and second lines delete the current contents
of the Bags. After it's applied, you can try "Apply to all folders" again
while in the File Explorer thing.

My BagMRU Size is set to 5000, but I'm not an organized-folder guy either.
I use filename_tagging to find stuff.

There is a limit to the size you can use for BagMRU Size,
so don't set it to a million or something. MRU normally means
Most Recently Used, so when the Bags fill up, the oldest folder setting
is tossed and a new folder uses the slot. It's something like
that.

   Paul
Click to expand...
 
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or without
variable file type column.


Go Linux. You won't go back.
Click to expand...
Tell me about it; gets rid of that baggage (pun intended) at the cost
of a totally foreign country with its own pile of crap.
 
Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
  Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
  ALWAYS get icon view!

  How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

  I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And
NOT change unless i do so on a given folder.

   Thanks.


This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711

The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm


* 503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.
* WinXP problem with that URL; must use Win7..
Click to expand...

******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
* then i tried adding above sub key, to no avail.

******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.
* "File Explorer"? where do i find that? Windows Explorer does not have
a "Merge" option,so i need a little help here..
    Thanks


At a guess, the first and second lines delete the current contents
of the Bags. After it's applied, you can try "Apply to all folders"
again
while in the File Explorer thing.

My BagMRU Size is set to 5000, but I'm not an organized-folder guy
either.
I use filename_tagging to find stuff.

There is a limit to the size you can use for BagMRU Size,
so don't set it to a million or something. MRU normally means
Most Recently Used, so when the Bags fill up, the oldest folder setting
is tossed and a new folder uses the slot. It's something like
that.

    Paul
Click to expand...
 
Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And
NOT change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.


This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711

The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm


* 503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.



******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
* then i tried adding above sub key, to no avail.

******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.
* "File Explorer"? where do i find that? Windows Explorer does not have
a "Merge" option,so i need a little help here..
Thanks
Click to expand...

Put the "stuff" between the two title bars into a file.

The name of the file doesn't matter, but Kelly initially
named it "bags8000.reg".

It's just a convenient way to make the changes.

Open your file manager window so you can see
the "bags8000.reg" text file you just made. The
..reg extension on the file, causes the right-click
context menu to have the word "Merge" at the top
of the list. Naming the file "bags8000.txt"
will not do! Change the extension to .reg as shown.

Paul
 
Robert Baer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
  Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
  ALWAYS get icon view!

  How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

  I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And
NOT change unless i do so on a given folder.

   Thanks.


This article has a whole bunch of stuff to play with.
I tried to find a script to do this, but haven't
figured out the best keyword yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/813711#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F813711

The closest thing so far in Kellys Korner, is the one that
bumps up the bags to 8000. It also resets a couple of things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140122022925/http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

* 503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.



******** bags8000.reg *********
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
"BagMRU Size"=dword:00001f40

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
* then i tried adding above sub key, to no avail.
Click to expand...

******** bags8000.reg *********

Right-click the file in File Explorer, and select Merge at the top
of the context menu.
Click to expand...
* "File Explorer"? where do i find that? Windows Explorer does not have
a "Merge" option,so i need a little help here..
Thanks

At a guess, the first and second lines delete the current contents
of the Bags. After it's applied, you can try "Apply to all folders" again
while in the File Explorer thing.

My BagMRU Size is set to 5000, but I'm not an organized-folder guy
either.
I use filename_tagging to find stuff.

There is a limit to the size you can use for BagMRU Size,
so don't set it to a million or something. MRU normally means
Most Recently Used, so when the Bags fill up, the oldest folder setting
is tossed and a new folder uses the slot. It's something like
that.

    Paul
Click to expand...
 
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.
Click to expand...

File-Close, saves the view. Clicking on the X discards it.

Cheers
 
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:27:12 UTC, Robert Baer wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Go Linux. You won't go back.



Tell me about it; gets rid of that baggage (pun intended) at the cost
of a totally foreign country with its own pile of crap.
Click to expand...

I see you're not familiar with linux.
 
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

File-Close, saves the view. Clicking on the X discards it.

Cheers

NOPE! Like I said, NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING changes what i see, quote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!
endquote.
Click to expand...

Also, i am fairly certain that the bags stuff is utter bullshit, in
that there are absolutely NO file names, NO directory names, NO drive
names, period.
Wasted hours looking.

Thanks for the (repeated) idea, it does not hurt (much) to try again
and fail.
 
Robert Baer wrote:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 21:55:31 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!

How do i fix this utter, total garbage (XP)?

I WANT _all_ folders to be in Details mode, unconditionally. And NOT
change unless i do so on a given folder.

Thanks.

File-Close, saves the view. Clicking on the X discards it.

Cheers

NOPE! Like I said, NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING changes what i see, quote:
I now find it impossible to get permanent details view, with or
without variable file type column.
Change any folder to details view, close that and try another, do
anything to its view (or not), switch back......
ALWAYS get icon view!
endquote.

Also, i am fairly certain that the bags stuff is utter bullshit, in
that there are absolutely NO file names, NO directory names, NO drive
names, period.
Wasted hours looking.

Thanks for the (repeated) idea, it does not hurt (much) to try again
and fail.
Click to expand...

https://www.sans.org/reading-room/whitepapers/forensics/windows-shellbag-forensics-in-depth-34545

There are some names in there.

https://i.postimg.cc/hG53D7rn/bagmru.gif

Paul
 
On 10/27/2019 10:28 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Johann Klammer wrote:
there was an options dialog back in win95 orso, which specified if the folder settings were global or per-folder. try to find it.

Wish i still had an installable version to peruse...
Not windows, that dialog.
Click to expand...
 
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