More Chinese fun..

[bob urz]

http://www.manufacturing.net/article.aspx?id=236870

bob

 

[N_Cook]

bob urz <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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http://www.manufacturing.net/article.aspx?id=236870

bob

Unfortunately not the dyslexic version of this headline

Asian crap crisis heading to Congress
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/ct-met-0121-asian-carp-bill
-20100120,0,7315791.story



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[William Sommerwerck]

The loss of a country's ability to manufacture its own goods will
never be a win in my book. How could anyone possibly think that you
could have a stable economy of consumers buying products from other
economies, while working in low-paying service based jobs? It's like a
pyramid scheme, on a grand scale. How does the money we put out come
back to our tables?

I've been working in manufacturing for most of 15 years now. The
same pattern has applied for almost every company I have worked for.
I join the ranks, move up to a stable position, then the company goes
out of business due to foreign competition. The same can be said for
other industries as well. The IT and software industries took a hit
for quite a while, when many companies moved their help desks and
development to India and the like. You keep hearing that we just need
more training and to go back to school and start over. New training
for what, working at the local coffee shop for minimum wage?


Several years ago, one of the people in a UseNet group had me contact
Agilent (nee, HP) about improving the documentation for their test
equipment, which had come under a lot of criticism from their customers. Not
only were his managers reluctant to talk with me (he had to twist their
arms), but I was told that if Agilent thought improved documentation were
needed, the work would be outsourced to India.

 

[Sansui Samari]

On Jan 21, 8:17 am, bob urz <so...@inetnebr.com> wrote:

http://www.manufacturing.net/article.aspx?id=236870

bob

Here was my reply....

The loss of a countries ability to manufacture it's own goods will
never be a win in my book. How could anyone possibly think that you
could have a stable economy of consumers buying products from other
economies, while working in low paying service based jobs. It's like a
pyramid scheme, on a grand scale. How does the money we put out come
back to our tables?
I've been working in manufacturing for most of 15 years now. The
same pattern has applied for almost every company I have worked for.
I join the ranks, move up to a stable position, then the company goes
out of business due to foreign competition. The same can be said for
other industries as well. The IT and software industries took a hit
for quite a while, when many companies moved their help desks and
development to India and the like. You keep hearing that we just need
more training and to go back to school and start over. New training
for what, working at the local Coffee shop for minimum wage.
Then there's the poor Chinese worker, they are victimized as much as
the consumer. The only hope, is that the standards, and cost of
living will even out. Then maybe it will be cost effective to
manufacture here again. Unfortunately, with millions held under
oppressive governments, this will probably never happen.

Squeezing 15 years of pent up anger into 2x8" of text is more
difficult than I had anticipated.

-J

 

[JeffM]

William Sommerwerck blockquoted poorly:
:Sansui Samari wrote:
::The loss of a country's ability to manufacture its own goods
::will never be a win in my book
::
It's easy to spot a user of Outbreaks In Excess:
The blockquoting is crap unless it has been hand-formated.

You should apply ALL the patches available for that dreck:
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature.the.most.intelligent.quoting.algorithm

the poor Chinese worker,
they are victimized as much as the consumer.
The only hope, is that the standards, and cost of living
will even out.
[...]
Squeezing 15 years of pent up anger into 2x8" of text
is more difficult than I had anticipated.

What SS ran out of space to mention

is that the residents of those emerging manufacturing powers
are going to increasingly use fossil fuels,
putting pressure on the prices for those carbon-based products
as well as increasing greenhouse gases.

Now imagine that the USA was actually producing
alternative energy solutions they could sell those folks.
2 birds; 1 stone.

 

[Sansui Samari]

On Jan 24, 1:09 pm, JeffM <jef...@email.com> wrote:

William Sommerwerck blockquoted poorly::Sansui Samari wrote:

::The loss of a country's ability to manufacture its own goods
::will never be a win in my book
::
It's easy to spot a user of Outbreaks In Excess:
The blockquoting is crap unless it has been hand-formated.

You should apply ALL the patches available for that dreck:http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature....

the poor Chinese worker,
they are victimized as much as the consumer.
The only hope, is that the standards, and cost of living
will even out.
[...]
Squeezing 15 years of pent up anger into 2x8" of text
is more difficult than I had anticipated.

What SS ran out of space to mention
is that the residents of those emerging manufacturing powers
are going to increasingly use fossil fuels,
putting pressure on the prices for those carbon-based products
as well as increasing greenhouse gases.

Now imagine that the USA was actually producing
alternative energy solutions they could sell those folks.
2 birds; 1 stone.

I'm pretty sure if they can't come up with the alternative solutions
themselves, they would just take whatever knowledge could be gained
from others, and manufacture it there. Why pay us when they already
have the means to produce it in their own countries. China is already
working to become the champion of green energy. If anything, we'll be
the ones buying equipment and technology from them.