Microwave leakage tester

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Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.
 
Dick Smith had one as a kit a couple of years ago...check there.

John :-#)#

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:36:56 GMT, "John" <johnnyboy@not.dodo.com.au>
wrote:

Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.
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"John" <johnnyboy@not.dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3ffba907@news.comindico.com.au...
Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.
Try Dick Smith or Tandy. I bought one in Tandy Elizabeth St Melb for 93c
just before Christmas. It has a green chuck-out sticker on it. The DSE shops
had them too, but for $9.93. I felt like going back into Tandy to tell them
of the possible mistake, but then I remembered the price I paid for other
stuff there over the years and realised that they never felt guilty about
the prices they charged.

WR
 
It was a dark and stormy night, and John managed to scribble:

Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.
You can use the simple continuity tester they sell (screwdriver with LED, battery & resistor) to check for microwave leakage as well.

gtoomey
 
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:36:56 GMT, "John" <johnnyboy@not.dodo.com.au>
wrote:

Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.

Built one for our first microwave based on the eti design and I may
still have a circuit for it.. somewhere.
Built another soon after and it detected a bad leak in a microwave my
parents had bought. The door wasn't sealing properly (rail freight) so
it instantly paid for itself. Apparently leaks aren't real good for
the eyes. My old detector still sits on top of our current microwave.
People often ask, what's that? ..it's prety damned ugly but
functional.
Ah, just found the original eti circuit, project 724.

Al


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Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it have on
users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it... the thing
could be leaking and you not know it ..so what are some of the symptoms
of that to watch out for?

John wrote:
Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.
 
"mc" <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btsktp$3i8$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...
Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it have on
users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it... the thing
could be leaking and you not know it ..so what are some of the symptoms
of that to watch out for?

John wrote:
Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I
have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.


An earlier poster had built a detector which detected a leaky oven door
seal, but without knowing whether it was calibrated, the test is meaningless
(other than as a go/no-go indication). A sensitive detector may well detect
radiation at such a low level as to be barely above the noise. There are
real standards for this which are more meaningful than anything you'd
'measure' with a detector home-built or bought at a store (for less than
$10k or so, anyway).

Symptoms from exposure depend on level and exposure time.

Cheers.

Ken
 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:28:03 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

"mc" <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btsktp$3i8$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...
Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it have on
users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it... the thing
could be leaking and you not know it ..so what are some of the symptoms
of that to watch out for?

John wrote:
Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I
have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.


An earlier poster had built a detector which detected a leaky oven door
seal, but without knowing whether it was calibrated, the test is meaningless
(other than as a go/no-go indication). A sensitive detector may well detect
radiation at such a low level as to be barely above the noise. There are
real standards for this which are more meaningful than anything you'd
'measure' with a detector home-built or bought at a store (for less than
$10k or so, anyway).

Symptoms from exposure depend on level and exposure time.

Yeah it was me. The circuit was eti project 724. It has two
sensitivity levels, with meter output. A normal microwave with leakage
meter sitting on top will not deflect the meter at all. The leaking
microwave was obvious. Then it was sent off to be repaired, confirmed
leaking, the door damaged enough in transit to cause a bad leak. They
would have had no idea otherwise. Have you read the eti article,
project 724? I read that it was bad for the eyes and not to dry cats
with a microwave.

Al


2004 insult page awaits your contribution
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
 
mc <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btsktp$3i8$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...

Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it
have on users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it...
None. There have been a few examples of terminal
stupids who have disabled the door interlock
deliberately, mostly in commercial environments.

the thing could be leaking and you not know it .. so what
are some of the symptoms of that to watch out for?
There arent any at leakage levels. You dont even get
any with the door interlock deliberately disabled, tho
you can end up with cataracts after some time.

Same thing was seen with aircraft radars operated on the
ground, no symptoms at all until the cataracts show up.


John wrote:
Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I have
checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
 
I think I built a similar one too (that eti kit)..it is still there
...but from memory cannot remeber how it was calibrated ..I know it has a
push "test button" that you press ..and if there is any leakeage around
the door it is supposed to deflect .. I've tried it number of times over
the years and no deflection..so either the microvave is still good
(about 20 years now old) or the tester is up to shit.. i assume even
after 20 years the seals should be oK? ..although my microvave shows
some rust at one corner of the door and another corner inside the oven.

I think time for a new one just in case ..

Albm&ctd wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:28:03 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz
wrote:


"mc" <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btsktp$3i8$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...

Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it have on
users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it... the thing
could be leaking and you not know it ..so what are some of the symptoms
of that to watch out for?

John wrote:

Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I

have

checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.



An earlier poster had built a detector which detected a leaky oven door
seal, but without knowing whether it was calibrated, the test is meaningless
(other than as a go/no-go indication). A sensitive detector may well detect
radiation at such a low level as to be barely above the noise. There are
real standards for this which are more meaningful than anything you'd
'measure' with a detector home-built or bought at a store (for less than
$10k or so, anyway).

Symptoms from exposure depend on level and exposure time.


Yeah it was me. The circuit was eti project 724. It has two
sensitivity levels, with meter output. A normal microwave with leakage
meter sitting on top will not deflect the meter at all. The leaking
microwave was obvious. Then it was sent off to be repaired, confirmed
leaking, the door damaged enough in transit to cause a bad leak. They
would have had no idea otherwise. Have you read the eti article,
project 724? I read that it was bad for the eyes and not to dry cats
with a microwave.

Al


2004 insult page awaits your contribution
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
 
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:45:20 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Same thing was seen with aircraft radars operated on the
ground, no symptoms at all until the cataracts show up.

Damn, I knew it was something to do with cats...cataracts eh.

Al


2004 insult page awaits your contribution
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
 
"Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
news:h5h700tvbpqtodadrenvflb6i5b1hsgbm0@4ax.com...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:45:20 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com
wrote:

Same thing was seen with aircraft radars operated on the
ground, no symptoms at all until the cataracts show up.
And the classic story about the technician on night duty at a large
Troposcatter site in Vietnam. He had in the building 4 x10Kw output klystron
amplifiers. These were multiplexed into two large billboard antennae, each
with perhaps 40db gain, for space/frequency/polarization diversity
operation. FO was approx 1ghz.

Having a quiet smoke behind the antennae, he was amazed to see two armed
guards appear in the Fresnel zone out front. There was an elevated boardwalk
as a walking track for the guards on their repetitive patrols. He was then
totally horrified to see that, as the two guards met out front, they both
pulled out smokes, and lit them by drawing an arc from the touching barrels
of their M16 rifles!!!

As the story went, he called on the CO next day and explained the problem
and the dangers. I believe the boardwalk was re-situated after much humming
and harring.

Bill
 
Oddly enough, we used our very expensive (calibrated) uWave measurement kit
on the quite new oven here at work and found the only significant leakage
was through the door open button hole. Even through the window was not
detectable, nor was there any around the door seal.

Ken

"mc" <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btv8mv$n7o$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...
I think I built a similar one too (that eti kit)..it is still there
..but from memory cannot remeber how it was calibrated ..I know it has a
push "test button" that you press ..and if there is any leakeage around
the door it is supposed to deflect .. I've tried it number of times over
the years and no deflection..so either the microvave is still good
(about 20 years now old) or the tester is up to shit.. i assume even
after 20 years the seals should be oK? ..although my microvave shows
some rust at one corner of the door and another corner inside the oven.

I think time for a new one just in case ..

Albm&ctd wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:28:03 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz
wrote:


"mc" <phmc@cc.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
news:btsktp$3i8$1@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au...

Has anyone had a"leaky" microwave ?.. and what effects did it have on
users .. surroundings etc ..if you had no tester for it... the thing
could be leaking and you not know it ..so what are some of the
symptoms
of that to watch out for?

John wrote:

Does anyone know if microwave leakage testers are still available. I

have

checked a few on line stores and cannot find any.
John.



An earlier poster had built a detector which detected a leaky oven door
seal, but without knowing whether it was calibrated, the test is
meaningless
(other than as a go/no-go indication). A sensitive detector may well
detect
radiation at such a low level as to be barely above the noise. There are
real standards for this which are more meaningful than anything you'd
'measure' with a detector home-built or bought at a store (for less than
$10k or so, anyway).

Symptoms from exposure depend on level and exposure time.


Yeah it was me. The circuit was eti project 724. It has two
sensitivity levels, with meter output. A normal microwave with leakage
meter sitting on top will not deflect the meter at all. The leaking
microwave was obvious. Then it was sent off to be repaired, confirmed
leaking, the door damaged enough in transit to cause a bad leak. They
would have had no idea otherwise. Have you read the eti article,
project 724? I read that it was bad for the eyes and not to dry cats
with a microwave.

Al


2004 insult page awaits your contribution
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
 

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