Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

T

terryS

Guest
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.
 
terryS wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.

Come back when you find out how USENET really works.


--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
 
"terryS" <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> schreef in bericht
news:eff5b960-b3f0-4ae9-b9ba-64a0293b8c99@z40g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.
Some simple filtering removes most of the spam. I have only one or two a
day.

petrus bitbyter
 
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS
<tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.
I don't see much spam, using Supernews and Agent with a bunch of
filters.

But I do see a lot of stuff in s.e.d. that should be in s.e.b. maybe.

John
 
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:11:39 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.

I don't see much spam, using Supernews and Agent with a bunch of
filters.

But I do see a lot of stuff in s.e.d. that should be in s.e.b. maybe.

John
I would rather see anything actually "ELECTRONIC" related in SED no
matter how trivial some may find.

It seems to be turning into Alt global warming, or lets talk politics.

I'm guilty of biting at some of the bullshit to; but it is getting
out of control.

To the OP use a news reader if you have shaw they have free news group
accsess.

Read through here.

http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide

and

http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html
 
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS
<tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.
Perhaps if you used a real newsreader and NNTP server you wouldn't see
so much spam.

>Regards from Canada.
 
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:43:32 -0500, Hammy <spam@spam.com> wrote:

I would rather see anything actually "ELECTRONIC" related in SED no
matter how trivial some may find.

It seems to be turning into Alt global warming, or lets talk politics.

I'm guilty of biting at some of the bullshit to; but it is getting
out of control.
Hard to resist the temptation, sometimes ...

http://xkcd.com/386/

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
 
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:43:32 -0500, Hammy
<spam@spam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:11:39 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

It is now useless for the originally intended purpose!

So maybe shut it down for a while and reactivate when the spammers/
advertisers have died away?

The same ahs unfortunately happened to other worthwhile forums.

Regards from Canada.

I don't see much spam, using Supernews and Agent with a bunch of
filters.

But I do see a lot of stuff in s.e.d. that should be in s.e.b. maybe.

John

I would rather see anything actually "ELECTRONIC" related in SED no
matter how trivial some may find.

It seems to be turning into Alt global warming, or lets talk politics.

I'm guilty of biting at some of the bullshit to; but it is getting
out of control.

To the OP use a news reader if you have shaw they have free news group
accsess.

Read through here.

http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide

and

http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html

I recently switched to Eternal September free
newsserver and the spam seems to have totally
vanished. Now there is so little SEB traffic that
I wonder if some legit messages are getting
blocked!

I guess I could always compare to the Google
version if I *really* want to know... nah!

Best regards,


Bob Masta

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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS
<tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
 
On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
========================================================Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
<tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.
---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:27:52 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????

---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.

---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?
Or better, why does he want to? Just because *he* doesn't like it?
 
John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.

---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF

You could just transfer it all over to alt.culture.luddites, they don't
even get spam over there , it's totally vacant....
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:45:48 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.

---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF


You could just transfer it all over to alt.culture.luddites, they don't
even get spam over there , it's totally vacant....
Why? To make *you* happy?
 
krw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:45:48 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.
---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF

You could just transfer it all over to alt.culture.luddites, they don't
even get spam over there , it's totally vacant....

Why? To make *you* happy?

Usenet, or any group in it going down the tubes does not make me happy.
I don't know where you get that idea, I'm simply stating a rather
obvious fact. I even set up a Ning group for one defunct newsgroup I've
posted to since 1996, just so the "Oldtimers" of that group (me
included)could keep in touch. It will be a sad day for me when it all
goes, but there is no fighting it.
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:29:59 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:45:48 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.
---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF

You could just transfer it all over to alt.culture.luddites, they don't
even get spam over there , it's totally vacant....

Why? To make *you* happy?


Usenet, or any group in it going down the tubes does not make me happy.
Irrelevant.

I don't know where you get that idea, I'm simply stating a rather
obvious fact.
No, you're advocating the closing of the group.

I even set up a Ning group for one defunct newsgroup I've
posted to since 1996, just so the "Oldtimers" of that group (me
included)could keep in touch. It will be a sad day for me when it all
goes, but there is no fighting it.
If it dies because of lack of use, so be it. It has no further
purpose.
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:29:59 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:


Usenet, or any group in it going down the tubes does not make me happy.
I don't know where you get that idea, I'm simply stating a rather
obvious fact. I even set up a Ning group for one defunct newsgroup I've
posted to since 1996, just so the "Oldtimers" of that group (me
included)could keep in touch. It will be a sad day for me when it all
goes, but there is no fighting it.
---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKHstR6ndus

JF
 
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:06:10 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:29:59 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:45:48 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:04:10 -0800 (PST), terryS
tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Jan 10, 10:48 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:13:23 -0800 (PST), terryS

tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Maybe time to shut down this news group?????
---
How do you propose to do that?

JF
=========================================================
Was just making an extreme point of view in order to identify the
problem!

Valid points have been made about anyone complaining, such as myself,
advising us to add 'filtering' and 'blocking' etc.

And in fact we have added filtering to our email. The number of times
I have won mythical lotteries and the like is amazing ...!

But filtering and blocking is just avoiding the problem, which is the
misuse of so many news groups, including this one!

One does not access a specific news group to be bombarded by adverts
for fake Gucci bags, faux Rolex watches, religious and/or political
rants which have nothing to do with the mandate of the group.

So as a result many groups cease to be what they were intended to be.

There are, still, some groups where posters will courteously apologise
for posting as it is termed, 'OT', or Off Topic and will seek
direction to a forum that is more appropriate for their question.

Other just bull right in with with "Do we have deal for YOU? Just on
the market, recently drained land near New Orleans, soon to be
valuable (when dikes repaired!)".etc. etc.

So why do we tolerate the misuse or just seek to avoid it? Is that
just 'Do nothingness' or 'Just do nothing and hope it goes away'.
---
Again, how do you propose to shut down the group?

JF

You could just transfer it all over to alt.culture.luddites, they don't
even get spam over there , it's totally vacant....

Why? To make *you* happy?


Usenet, or any group in it going down the tubes does not make me happy.

Irrelevant.

I don't know where you get that idea, I'm simply stating a rather
obvious fact.

No, you're advocating the closing of the group.
---
I think you've got the wrong guy; AFAIK, the "close it down" advocate
was Terry S.

JF
 
John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:29:59 -0500, nospam@nevis.com wrote:


Usenet, or any group in it going down the tubes does not make me happy.
I don't know where you get that idea, I'm simply stating a rather
obvious fact. I even set up a Ning group for one defunct newsgroup I've
posted to since 1996, just so the "Oldtimers" of that group (me
included)could keep in touch. It will be a sad day for me when it all
goes, but there is no fighting it.

---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKHstR6ndus

JF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5pkkAhETYg
 

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