Magnavox 46" TV sound quality

[Anon]

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of attempting a
repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The only servicing I
do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping them for components
(and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major networks
local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices.
To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is being fed through
the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only
occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters fault.
Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS VCR, it
sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to mute or
adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go
through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's speakers.
Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters regarding
this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past few years. I
have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service on the set, but
was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it really
is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can offer an
explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL

 

[William R. Walsh]

Hi!

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some
major networks local stations.  The background sounds (and
music) overpowers any voices.

I believe you will find this is not a fault in the TV itself. You
should check the audio settings in the set to see if any of those
happen to be incorrect. I would recommend checking to make sure the
set hasn't been set to receive the secondary audio program (SAP) or
that any "effects" such as stereo expansion or the "smart sound"
effect are turned off.

If you are watching through a set top or converter box, have you
checked its audio settings to be sure they are correct? Perhaps the
box is outputting the wrong type of audio for the speaker system you
have.

This TV is probably capable of receiving stereo audio if it is being
broadcast. Some broadcasters--for whatever reason--have their stereo
audio messed up in the way you describe.

When you watch through the VCR, it's very possible that you are only
watching with monophonic audio, especially if the VCR is outputting to
the TV over its built in RF modulator. (Very few RF modulators output
stereo audio.) This may be enough to defeat any audio processing that
is being performed by your TV (most such schemes don't work on single-
channel audio) or problems with the stereo audio coming from the
station or source.

I've noticed that sometimes the effect of loud background noises and
quiet foreground noises can be caused by playing multi-speaker sound
(usually 5.1 channels) through a stereo speaker system.

William

 

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:24:46 -0500, "Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote:

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of attempting a
repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The only servicing I
do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping them for components
(and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major networks
local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices.
To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is being fed through
the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only
occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters fault.
Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS VCR, it
sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to mute or
adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go
through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's speakers.
Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters regarding
this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past few years. I
have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service on the set, but
was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it really
is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can offer an
explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL


The sound on my Magnavox LCD TV is poor unless you run it through a

decent set of speakers :-( Feeding the audio out jacks of the TV to
even a small CD player with larger (maybe 6") speakers makes a huge
improvement in the lower frequencies. I think the problem is the
small, thin speakers they use to keep the TV frame thin - good
speakers have big magnets and the speakers are more than 1" thick.

Music louder than voice is something from popular music of the past
10-15 years - the "glitz" singers (where it was all about the show,
not the singing) knew their voices were lousy and raised the music
level to hide it. If people can't clearly hear them singing flat or
the wrong note, then they don't get "couldn't carry a tune in a
bucket" reviews. Once the fad started, lots of other groups joined
in. Now the fans of that music are scoring movies and TV shows - with
similar bad results. Less likely in movies with big stars, as they
have the clout to get things changed.

John

 

[Phil Allison]

"Anon"

The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices. To me it seems as
though the quieter "background" sound is being fed through the louder
"foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only occurs on
this TV

** The TV has some from of stereo enhancement in the audio system.

Go into the menus and disable it if possible.



..... Phil

 

[John-Del]

\

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major networks
local stations.  The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices.

Simple. It's the surround processing done at the broadcast that's
causing this. Two ways to fix:

1) Install a surround sound system making sure the center channel is
working.

2) Put the TV in mono mode.

To be honest, the physical separation of the speakers doesn't throw
much of a stereo soundstage anyway. When I repair or sell a TV that
isn't used
on a surround system, I always deliver it in "mono" All my TVs (not
on surround)
are in mono all the time. Trust me, you'll be much happier.

John

 

[Klaatu]

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of attempting
a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The only servicing
I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping them for components
(and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers any
voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is being
fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem
however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters
fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS
VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to
mute or adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's
audio both go through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's
speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters regarding
this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past few years. I
have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service on the set, but
was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
really is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can offer
an explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL



Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are correct

for your situation,
having one channel speaker physically out of phase with the other may cause
this problem.
If you can get to them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as see
if the problem
goes away.

 

[David Nebenzahl]

On 1/21/2010 11:27 AM Klaatu spake thus:

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice,
some of which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention
of attempting a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering
skills. The only servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a
daughterboard or stripping them for components (and practice
desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music)
overpowers any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter
"background" sound is being fed through the louder "foreground"
channel, and viceversa. The problem however only occurs on this TV
and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I
recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just
fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to mute or adjust
the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go
through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's
speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even
worse.

Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
correct for your situation, having one channel speaker physically out
of phase with the other may cause this problem. If you can get to
them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as see if the
problem goes away.

I seriously doubt that an out-of-phase speaker would cause anything like
what the OP is reporting. At most it would result in reduced volume.


--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.

- a Usenet "apology"

 

[Anon]

"William R. Walsh" <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bc7d3a96-64b3-4fc1-b72a-0fb5439a8790@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Hi!

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some
major networks local stations. The background sounds (and
music) overpowers any voices.

I believe you will find this is not a fault in the TV itself. You
should check the audio settings in the set to see if any of those
happen to be incorrect. I would recommend checking to make sure the
set hasn't been set to receive the secondary audio program (SAP) or
that any "effects" such as stereo expansion or the "smart sound"
effect are turned off.

If you are watching through a set top or converter box, have you
checked its audio settings to be sure they are correct? Perhaps the
box is outputting the wrong type of audio for the speaker system you
have.

This TV is probably capable of receiving stereo audio if it is being
broadcast. Some broadcasters--for whatever reason--have their stereo
audio messed up in the way you describe.

When you watch through the VCR, it's very possible that you are only
watching with monophonic audio, especially if the VCR is outputting to
the TV over its built in RF modulator. (Very few RF modulators output
stereo audio.) This may be enough to defeat any audio processing that
is being performed by your TV (most such schemes don't work on single-
channel audio) or problems with the stereo audio coming from the
station or source.

I've noticed that sometimes the effect of loud background noises and
quiet foreground noises can be caused by playing multi-speaker sound
(usually 5.1 channels) through a stereo speaker system.

William

****
William,
Thank you for your reply. I have experimented with the different settings
available through the TV menus and the CATV menus regard audio settings a
number of times. I again checked all settings; Smart Sound and other
processing is Off in the TV, though it is set on Stereo. Even set on Mono
the effect exists although it is slightly less noticeable over the poor
quality overall sound. The VCR is a hi-fi stereo model and is wired in
stereo using the RCA Composite jacks. Both the TV audio and the VCR audio
is processed thru the Bose 1-2-3 Home system (which is a 5.1).
(Alternately, I have turned off the Bose 1-2-3 and turned on the TV's
Internal speakers and the effect still exists on TV broadcasts but not when
tuning thru the VCR, played through the TV speakers.)

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin FL

 

[Anon]

<news@jecarter.us> wrote in message
news:dbrel5tan4bafom9ngvouns6f5t7k6f2qp@4ax.com...

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:24:46 -0500, "Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote:

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of attempting
a
repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The only servicing
I
do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping them for components
(and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks
local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices.
To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is being fed
through
the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only
occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters fault.
Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS VCR, it
sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to mute or
adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both
go
through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's speakers.
Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters regarding
this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past few years. I
have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service on the set, but
was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
really
is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can offer
an
explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL


The sound on my Magnavox LCD TV is poor unless you run it through a
decent set of speakers :-( Feeding the audio out jacks of the TV to
even a small CD player with larger (maybe 6") speakers makes a huge
improvement in the lower frequencies. I think the problem is the
small, thin speakers they use to keep the TV frame thin - good
speakers have big magnets and the speakers are more than 1" thick.

Music louder than voice is something from popular music of the past
10-15 years - the "glitz" singers (where it was all about the show,
not the singing) knew their voices were lousy and raised the music
level to hide it. If people can't clearly hear them singing flat or
the wrong note, then they don't get "couldn't carry a tune in a
bucket" reviews. Once the fad started, lots of other groups joined
in. Now the fans of that music are scoring movies and TV shows - with
similar bad results. Less likely in movies with big stars, as they
have the clout to get things changed.

John

John,

Thank you for your reply. I am not using the internal TV speakers. All
audio is fed thru Bose 1-2-3 Home surround sound system.
Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin FL

 

[Anon]

"John-Del" <ohger1s@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f934a49e-26a7-4ff7-a196-f5eb35d1dde8@15g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
\

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks
local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices.

Simple. It's the surround processing done at the broadcast that's
causing this. Two ways to fix:

1) Install a surround sound system making sure the center channel is
working.

2) Put the TV in mono mode.

To be honest, the physical separation of the speakers doesn't throw
much of a stereo soundstage anyway. When I repair or sell a TV that
isn't used
on a surround system, I always deliver it in "mono" All my TVs (not
on surround)
are in mono all the time. Trust me, you'll be much happier.

John

****
John,

Thank you for your reply. Both TV and VCR are outputting to Bose 1-2-3 Home
surround sound system. 1-2-3 does not have a separate center speaker but is
created using a wave channel from each of the side speakers. Stereo or mono
output from the VCR to the 1-2-3 does not have the effect. Only the mono or
stereo TV audio output to the 1-2-3 has the effect.

Even in Mono the background sounds/music are louder than the voices,
although the effect is slightly lessened.

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin FL

 

[Anon]

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:7rpnrpFjg7U1@mid.individual.net...

"Anon"

The background sounds (and music) overpowers any voices. To me it seems
as though the quieter "background" sound is being fed through the louder
"foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only occurs on
this TV

** The TV has some from of stereo enhancement in the audio system.

Go into the menus and disable it if possible.



.... Phil




Phil,

Thanks!
I have rechecked all settings in the TV menus and the CATV menus and there
were no audio enhancement features turned on. I have also reset everything
to defaults and made sure those settings were turned off. Even in mono,
the TV's background is much louder than any voices, on some channels.

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin, FL

 

[Anon]

"Klaatu" <nospam@today.com> wrote in message
news:wJidnYb219gkN8XWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@centurytel.net...

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of attempting
a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The only
servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping them for
components (and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you
need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's
audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround sound system,
not using the TV's speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its own
speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters regarding
this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past few years. I
have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service on the set, but
was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
really is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can offer
an explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL



Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
correct for your situation,
having one channel speaker physically out of phase with the other may
cause this problem.
If you can get to them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as
see if the problem
goes away.

Klaatu,

Thanks! However would this affect the TV's audio output "without" the
internal speakers? Even with the internal speakers turned off, the TV's
audio sent thru the Bose 1-2-3 surround system, exhibits the louder
background sound.

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin, FL

 

[Anon]

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4b5915c5$0$4830$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...

On 1/21/2010 11:27 AM Klaatu spake thus:

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some
of which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention
of attempting a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The
only servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping
them for components (and practice
desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter
"background" sound is being fed through the louder "foreground"
channel, and viceversa. The problem however only occurs on this TV
and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I
recieve and output the audio portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just
fine. (Wife hates it because you need two remotes to mute or adjust
the volume). To clarify, the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go
through the same surround sound system, not using the TV's
speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even
worse.

Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
correct for your situation, having one channel speaker physically out
of phase with the other may cause this problem. If you can get to
them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as see if the
problem goes away.

I seriously doubt that an out-of-phase speaker would cause anything like
what the OP is reporting. At most it would result in reduced volume.


David,

Thanks! When I flip between the audio sources (TV and VCR) on the Bose
1-2-3, with the volume levels set the same number, the Background sound
stays approximately at the same level, but the voices (what I perceive as
forground) goes from 50% as loud as the background from the TV to 50% louder
than the background from the VCR, even on mono settings. Two other TVs in
the house have normal audio with clear forground sound and background
sound/music where it belongs, in the background.
Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin FL

 

[Klaatu]

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b59cb88$0$5110$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

"Klaatu" <nospam@today.com> wrote in message
news:wJidnYb219gkN8XWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@centurytel.net...

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of
attempting a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The
only servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping
them for components (and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you
need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's
audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround sound
system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its
own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters
regarding this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past
few years. I have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service
on the set, but was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio
channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
really is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can
offer an explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL



Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
correct for your situation,
having one channel speaker physically out of phase with the other may
cause this problem.
If you can get to them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as
see if the problem
goes away.

Klaatu,

Thanks! However would this affect the TV's audio output "without" the
internal speakers? Even with the internal speakers turned off, the TV's
audio sent thru the Bose 1-2-3 surround system, exhibits the louder
background sound.

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin, FL


It wouldn't, so there goes the phasing theory. Good Luck!

Klaatu

 

[William R. Walsh]

Hi!

Thank you for your reply.

You are welcome.

I have experimented with the different settings available through
the TV menus and the CATV menus regard audio settings a
number of times.

That's good information to have. I didn't know you'd done that.

Both the TV audio and the VCR audio is processed thru the Bose
1-2-3 Home system (which is a 5.1).

I was thinking at first that it might be worthwhile to check this
system out and make sure it wasn't doing any processing to "create"
surround sound out of a stereo source, but then I read further:

(Alternately, I have turned off the Bose 1-2-3 and turned on the
TV's Internal speakers and the effect still exists on TV
broadcasts but not when tuning thru the VCR, played through
the TV speakers.)

....and there went any hopes of an "easy" fix. I don't know what to
think. There must be some difference in the way the VCR processes the
audio that causes it to be played in what you consider a more correct
manner.

I do hope that you can figure it out, but I think I've done all I can
to help at this point.

William

 

[John-Del]

On Jan 22, 10:50 am, "Anon" <nos...@tbrr.net> wrote:


 Both TV and VCR are outputting to Bose 1-2-3 Home

surround sound system. 1-2-3 does not have a separate center speaker but is
created using a wave channel from each of the side speakers.

Uh oh, get ready to duck. The Bose haters are warming up in the
bullpen.....

The lack of a center channel is still causing this. I do this for a
living, and deal with it constantly. Turn the TV speakers back on,
put the TV in mono, adjust the TV level to match the Bose, and the
problem will go away. It's not a perfect center channel, but it'll
do.

John

 

[Klaatu]

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b59cb88$0$5110$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

"Klaatu" <nospam@today.com> wrote in message
news:wJidnYb219gkN8XWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@centurytel.net...

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
I am a long-time lurker in s.e.r and have read much great advice, some of
which I have put into use. To be clear, I have no intention of
attempting a repair on this TV. I have weak (de)soldering skills. The
only servicing I do on TVs, is to reseat a daughterboard or stripping
them for components (and practice desoldering without destruction).

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
portion with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because you
need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify, the TV's
audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround sound
system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting the TV's audio thru its
own speakers is even worse.

I have even seen OpEd complaints towards the local broadcasters
regarding this same issue in our newspaper occasionally over the past
few years. I have asked Sears techs who have come for warranty service
on the set, but was assured there are no "rear" and "front" audio
channels.

Tonal range of the background has little effect. High pitch (street)
background noise still overpowers voices, like the rumbling lows of a
musical score.

This problem is easy for us to bypass with the separate audio, so it
really is only my curiosity asking. With all the skilled service techs
contributing here, maybe someone has run into this before, that can
offer an explanation?

Scott
Dunedin, FL



Assuming that you have checked all the audio settings, and they are
correct for your situation,
having one channel speaker physically out of phase with the other may
cause this problem.
If you can get to them, try reversing the leads on one speaker ONLY, as
see if the problem
goes away.

Klaatu,

Thanks! However would this affect the TV's audio output "without" the
internal speakers? Even with the internal speakers turned off, the TV's
audio sent thru the Bose 1-2-3 surround system, exhibits the louder
background sound.

Thanks!
Scott
Dunedin, FL


One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs to run

audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if that helps.

 

[David Nebenzahl]

On 1/24/2010 9:54 AM Klaatu spake thus:

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some
major networks local stations. The background sounds (and
music) overpowers any voices. To me it seems as though the
quieter "background" sound is being fed through the louder
"foreground" channel, and viceversa. The problem however only
occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the broadcasters
fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio portion
with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because
you need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify,
the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same
surround sound system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting
the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs
to run audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if
that helps.

How could that *possibly* affect the problem the OP reported?


--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.

- a Usenet "apology"

 

[Klaatu]

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4b5ce6d7$0$4838$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...

On 1/24/2010 9:54 AM Klaatu spake thus:

"Anon" <nospam@tbrr.net> wrote in message
news:4b57203c$0$5095$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

The problem I hear is on a number of channels including some major
networks local stations. The background sounds (and music) overpowers
any voices. To me it seems as though the quieter "background" sound is
being fed through the louder "foreground" channel, and viceversa. The
problem however only occurs on this TV and cannot be (entirely) the
broadcasters fault. Additionally, if I recieve and output the audio
portion
with a VHS VCR, it sounds just fine. (Wife hates it because
you need two remotes to mute or adjust the volume). To clarify,
the TV's audio and the VCR's audio both go through the same surround
sound system, not using the TV's speakers. Outputting
the TV's audio thru its own speakers is even worse.

One last thought.....if you are using standard RCA male to male plugs
to run audio from the TV to the Bose, replace that cable. See if
that helps.

How could that *possibly* affect the problem the OP reported?


--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.

- a Usenet "apology"

I've run across several "inexpensive" Chinese cables where not only the
colors were wrong
(red plug at one end, but black plug on the other...reversed) but also
cables where the internal wiring was reversed at one end, on one side of the
stereo cable. That was in a car stereo installation, and I had run the
cable under moulding and carpeting, then had no bass and poor imaging when I
fired the completed unit up. I was not pleased.
Nothing else has helped the OP come up with a solution, it was just a
suggestion.

Klaatu