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Farmer Giles
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Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
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ohg...@gmail.com
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On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-5, Farmer Giles wrote:
> Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Contact the manufacturer. Curse them when they don\'t send you a schematic....
Most power supplies can be repaired without a schematic with some luck and careful observation. First step is look for vented electrolytics. Second step is to check all the big semis for shorts - Mosfets, diodes, etc. Third step is to ESR all electrolytics if not vented. Fourth step is to locate all ICs and get the datasheets for them (most available). The datasheets for the ICs will usually give a representative schematic that support the chips. Hopefully you don\'t need a step 5.
> Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Contact the manufacturer. Curse them when they don\'t send you a schematic....
Most power supplies can be repaired without a schematic with some luck and careful observation. First step is look for vented electrolytics. Second step is to check all the big semis for shorts - Mosfets, diodes, etc. Third step is to ESR all electrolytics if not vented. Fourth step is to locate all ICs and get the datasheets for them (most available). The datasheets for the ICs will usually give a representative schematic that support the chips. Hopefully you don\'t need a step 5.
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knuttle
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On 2/25/2022 1:59 PM, ohg...@gmail.com wrote:
I often do a look listen and smell test.
Look for burnt diodes or blown electrolytic caps.
Listen for intermittence sounds when you tap components.
Smell each component if it doesn\'t show a burnt circuit board below it.
On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-5, Farmer Giles wrote:
Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Contact the manufacturer. Curse them when they don\'t send you a schematic...
Most power supplies can be repaired without a schematic with some luck and careful observation. First step is look for vented electrolytics. Second step is to check all the big semis for shorts - Mosfets, diodes, etc. Third step is to ESR all electrolytics if not vented. Fourth step is to locate all ICs and get the datasheets for them (most available). The datasheets for the ICs will usually give a representative schematic that support the chips. Hopefully you don\'t need a step 5.
I often do a look listen and smell test.
Look for burnt diodes or blown electrolytic caps.
Listen for intermittence sounds when you tap components.
Smell each component if it doesn\'t show a burnt circuit board below it.
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legg
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:43:38 +0000, Farmer Giles <giles@nospam.com>
wrote:
>Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
You\'re sure about the brand name and model number?
If a supply is provided for a luminaire, it can react to
failures in the lamps, which is much more common than
psu failure.
RL
wrote:
>Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
You\'re sure about the brand name and model number?
If a supply is provided for a luminaire, it can react to
failures in the lamps, which is much more common than
psu failure.
RL
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Farmer Giles
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On 25/02/2022 16:43, Farmer Giles wrote:
> Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Thanks for all the help/advice. It\'s a psu controlling fish tank
lighting (not mine, a friend asked me to look at it). The
semi-conductors are all pretty obscure.
Chinese made, so not much chance of getting a circuit diagram off them I
wouldn\'t think.
> Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Thanks for all the help/advice. It\'s a psu controlling fish tank
lighting (not mine, a friend asked me to look at it). The
semi-conductors are all pretty obscure.
Chinese made, so not much chance of getting a circuit diagram off them I
wouldn\'t think.
M
Mike Coon
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In article <svbfv6$eul$1@dont-email.me>, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net
says...
I remember some blown selenium rectifiers that were impossible not to
smell!
says...
On 2/25/2022 1:59 PM, ohg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-5, Farmer Giles wrote:
Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Contact the manufacturer. Curse them when they don\'t send you a schematic...
Most power supplies can be repaired without a schematic with some luck and careful observation. First step is look for vented electrolytics. Second step is to check all the big semis for shorts - Mosfets, diodes, etc. Third step is to ESR all electrolytics if not vented. Fourth step is to locate all ICs and get the datasheets for them (most available). The datasheets for the ICs will usually give a representative schematic that support the chips. Hopefully you
don\'t need a step 5.
I often do a look listen and smell test.
Look for burnt diodes or blown electrolytic caps.
Listen for intermittence sounds when you tap components.
Smell each component if it doesn\'t show a burnt circuit board below it.
I remember some blown selenium rectifiers that were impossible not to
smell!
L
legg
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 08:45:34 +0000, Farmer Giles <giles@nospam.com>
wrote:
Your ident is either mis-spelled or mis-identified.
What kind of light? incandescent / fluorescent / LED ?
Are there voltage/current ratings on the label?
RL
wrote:
On 25/02/2022 16:43, Farmer Giles wrote:
Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Thanks for all the help/advice. It\'s a psu controlling fish tank
lighting (not mine, a friend asked me to look at it). The
semi-conductors are all pretty obscure.
Chinese made, so not much chance of getting a circuit diagram off them I
wouldn\'t think.
Your ident is either mis-spelled or mis-identified.
What kind of light? incandescent / fluorescent / LED ?
Are there voltage/current ratings on the label?
RL
F
Farmer Giles
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On 26/02/2022 14:09, legg wrote:
That\'s the trade name on it.
https://urmstonaquatics.com/tmc-v2ilumenair-900-1200-power-supply-9200psu-uk.html
I don\'t have access to what it controls, but as I said above it\'s
something to do with fish tank lighting.
Yes, but what difference does that make?
However, I think I\'ve located the problem - the first of them at least!
There\'s a bridge rectifier that is not reading correctly, need to remove
it to make more accurate checks.
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 08:45:34 +0000, Farmer Giles <giles@nospam.com
wrote:
On 25/02/2022 16:43, Farmer Giles wrote:
Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Thanks for all the help/advice. It\'s a psu controlling fish tank
lighting (not mine, a friend asked me to look at it). The
semi-conductors are all pretty obscure.
Chinese made, so not much chance of getting a circuit diagram off them I
wouldn\'t think.
Your ident is either mis-spelled or mis-identified.
That\'s the trade name on it.
https://urmstonaquatics.com/tmc-v2ilumenair-900-1200-power-supply-9200psu-uk.html
What kind of light? incandescent / fluorescent / LED ?
I don\'t have access to what it controls, but as I said above it\'s
something to do with fish tank lighting.
Are there voltage/current ratings on the label?
Yes, but what difference does that make?
However, I think I\'ve located the problem - the first of them at least!
There\'s a bridge rectifier that is not reading correctly, need to remove
it to make more accurate checks.
L
legg
Guest
On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:12:57 +0000, Farmer Giles <giles@nospam.com>
wrote:
You\'ll need a properly identified load, if only to duplicate
failure symptoms and verify the repair.
What were the reported symptoms?
Does it flashes the load once, repeatedly or not at all, when
power is applied?
Any smell associated with it?
Intermittent when line cord jiggled?
etc.
24V 10A is a pretty common rating, but the restriction for use
with the specified load suggests that corners were cut in
performance that may only be revealed by using that load in
testing, unless you have a variable resistive/constant-voltage/
constant-current loads as substitutes.
RL
wrote:
On 26/02/2022 14:09, legg wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 08:45:34 +0000, Farmer Giles <giles@nospam.com
wrote:
On 25/02/2022 16:43, Farmer Giles wrote:
Anyone had any dealings with this psu, or have a circuit diagram ?
Thanks for all the help/advice. It\'s a psu controlling fish tank
lighting (not mine, a friend asked me to look at it). The
semi-conductors are all pretty obscure.
Chinese made, so not much chance of getting a circuit diagram off them I
wouldn\'t think.
Your ident is either mis-spelled or mis-identified.
That\'s the trade name on it.
https://urmstonaquatics.com/tmc-v2ilumenair-900-1200-power-supply-9200psu-uk.html
What kind of light? incandescent / fluorescent / LED ?
I don\'t have access to what it controls, but as I said above it\'s
something to do with fish tank lighting.
Are there voltage/current ratings on the label?
Yes, but what difference does that make?
However, I think I\'ve located the problem - the first of them at least!
There\'s a bridge rectifier that is not reading correctly, need to remove
it to make more accurate checks.
You\'ll need a properly identified load, if only to duplicate
failure symptoms and verify the repair.
What were the reported symptoms?
Does it flashes the load once, repeatedly or not at all, when
power is applied?
Any smell associated with it?
Intermittent when line cord jiggled?
etc.
24V 10A is a pretty common rating, but the restriction for use
with the specified load suggests that corners were cut in
performance that may only be revealed by using that load in
testing, unless you have a variable resistive/constant-voltage/
constant-current loads as substitutes.
RL