Lubuntu Linux - moving files only half works.

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that
they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only
showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result
there.

It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started; I've
been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move" and not
"copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving".

This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu!

Thanks for any help.

 

[Phoena Greene]

"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in message
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Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that
they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only
showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result
there.

It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started;
I've been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move"
and not "copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving".

This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu!

Thanks for any help.

I think just about everything in Linux only half works.

 

[Jon Elson]

Phoena Greene wrote:

"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in
message news:cH_tA.13664$e%2.11566@fx41.am4...
Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing
that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is
only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no
result there.

Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source.
It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the
old ones. That makes good sense!

It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started;
I've been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move"
and not "copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving".

This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu!

Thanks for any help.

I think just about everything in Linux only half works.

Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been using
some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years! I also have a
number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle Bones) running Linux.
My family is almost exclusively running Linux for general email, web
browsing, writing papers for school, etc.

Works for me.

Jon

 

[Baron]

Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with:

Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been
using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years!
I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle
Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively running Linux
for general email, web browsing, writing papers for school, etc.

Works for me.

Jon

I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with Yggdrasil
Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to compile
everything yourself. Fun times...

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

Il giorno martedĂŹ 7 marzo 2017 21:14:26 UTC+1, Baron ha scritto:

Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with:

Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been
using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years!
I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle
Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively running Linux
for general email, web browsing, writing papers for school, etc.

Works for me.

Jon

I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with Yggdrasil
Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to compile
everything yourself. Fun times...

half a day to compile the kernel
and then you found out that you forgot to include a driver, so it didn't boot.

Bye Jack

 

Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

mark

 

[Baron]

jack4747@gmail.com prodded the keyboard with:

Il giorno martedĂŹ 7 marzo 2017 21:14:26 UTC+1, Baron ha scritto:
Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with:

Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've
been using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20
years! I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or
Beagle Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively
running Linux for general email, web browsing, writing papers for
school, etc.

Works for me.

Jon

I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with
Yggdrasil
Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to
compile
everything yourself. Fun times...

half a day to compile the kernel
and then you found out that you forgot to include a driver, so it
didn't boot.

Bye Jack

I don't recall having that problem ! I do remember struggling to
find the code for some driver or other, and then having to mod code
because some address was different or wrong. Off by one was a
popular mistake. You soon became very familiar with PC hardware in
those days.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Jon Elson" <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote in message
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Phoena Greene wrote:



"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in
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Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred
as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing
that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is
only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no
result there.

Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the
source.
It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the
old ones. That makes good sense!

Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB stick
causing the mischief.

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Baron" <baron@linuxmaniac.net> wrote in message
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jack4747@gmail.com prodded the keyboard with:

Il giorno martedĂŹ 7 marzo 2017 21:14:26 UTC+1, Baron ha scritto:
Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with:

Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've
been using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20
years! I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or
Beagle Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively
running Linux for general email, web browsing, writing papers for
school, etc.

Works for me.

Jon

I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with
Yggdrasil
Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to
compile
everything yourself. Fun times...

half a day to compile the kernel
and then you found out that you forgot to include a driver, so it
didn't boot.

Bye Jack

I don't recall having that problem ! I do remember struggling to
find the code for some driver or other, and then having to mod code
because some address was different or wrong. Off by one was a
popular mistake. You soon became very familiar with PC hardware in
those days.

Must've been before I first tried Linux.

Despite being a late convert from M$ command line - I found Linux command
line to be too much PITA.

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

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Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

mark

WTF?!!!

 

mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?

 

[Johann Klammer]

On 03/08/2017 09:28 PM, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Jon Elson" <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote in message news:f6SdnUJ1WK5gbiDFnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@giganews.com...
Phoena Greene wrote:



"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in
message news:cH_tA.13664$e%2.11566@fx41.am4...
Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing
that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is
only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no
result there.

Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source.
It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the
old ones. That makes good sense!

Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB stick causing the mischief.

did you unmount the usb stick manually as root,
or sync, so the stuff got actually written out?

They had an issue once when the files got damaged when you just unplugged the stick.
It was related to how their drive cache works. Maybe no one ever
figured out how to fix it. They do tend to add layers of script and candy to obfuscate those issues.

check dmesg for kernel warnings/errors
(not the file, type dmesg on the bash prompt)

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Johann Klammer" <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> wrote in message
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On 03/08/2017 09:28 PM, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Jon Elson" <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote in message
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Phoena Greene wrote:



"Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote in
message news:cH_tA.13664$e%2.11566@fx41.am4...
Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred
as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing
that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is
only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no
result there.

Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the
source.
It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing
the
old ones. That makes good sense!

Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB
stick causing the mischief.
did you unmount the usb stick manually as root,
or sync, so the stuff got actually written out?

They had an issue once when the files got damaged when you just unplugged
the stick.

Only need one more for a
hat-trick..................................................

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:

mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?

That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is
five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are
still limits.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over
100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?


That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is
five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are
still limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB
stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk......................................

 

[Michael Black]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:wsidnT9pS7gJyl7FnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@earthlink.com...
bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over
100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?


That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five
meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still
limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB
stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk......................................

Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for
best operation.

I've found a bunch of Logitech USB extension cords that have a little
stand at the remote end, so it can sit on your desktop. Certainly useful
if you don't have USB outlets on the front of your computer, or even if
the computer is below the desk.

The TP-Link USB wifi adapter I just bought came with an extension cord,
but no little plastic thing to sit on the desk.

Michael

 

[Benderthe.evilrobot]

"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is
over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?

That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is
five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are
still limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB
stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk......................................
Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for
best operation.

How did Wi-Fi adapters find their way in?

 

[Michael Black]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:wsidnT9pS7gJyl7FnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@earthlink.com...
bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over
100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?

That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is
five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are
still limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB
stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk......................................
Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for best
operation.

How did Wi-Fi adapters find their way in?

Because it's a "USB stick".

Michael

 

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:wsidnT9pS7gJyl7FnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@earthlink.com...
bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over
100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?


That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five
meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still
limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB
stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk

There are a myriad of devices that can go into USB ports, many just for recharging only.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:wsidnT9pS7gJyl7FnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@earthlink.com...
bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
mako...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.

It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is
over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins?


That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is
five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there
are still limits.

I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a
USB stick into a computer.

Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the
desk......................................

Maybe a webcam used as a security camera, or any of hundreds of
other USB devices. That's why it's called the 'Universal Serial Bus'.
This computer came with eight USB ports, then I added a card with
another four to eliminate an external hub.

I also have a long USB to USB cable made to transfer files from one PC
to another. It replaced the old Laplink cable that used the Parallel ports.

Here is a handy program that helps you identify registered USB
devices that have been connected to your computer

32 bit:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview.zip

64 bit:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview-x64.zip

--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)