[LTspice] Attribute Window doesn't do anything

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Chris Carlen

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Greetings:

In LTspice 2.15c the docs state: "You can edit the visibility of
attributes using the menu command Edit|Attributes|Attribute Window.
After you select an attribute with this dialog you will be able to
position it as you wish with respect to the symbol."


I am able to get this dialog, but it appears to do nothing except, well,
nothing.

That is, I don't find any option to position anything in relation to the
symbol, or set any "visible on schematic" options.

What is wrong?


BTW: I have tested this on Windows 2000 running natively (also happens
with Linux/WINE).



Good day!



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"Chris Carlen" <crcarleRemoveThis@BOGUSsandia.gov> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Greetings:

In LTspice 2.15c the docs state: "You can edit the visibility of
attributes using the menu command Edit|Attributes|Attribute Window. After
you select an attribute with this dialog you will be able to position it
as you wish with respect to the symbol."


I am able to get this dialog, but it appears to do nothing except, well,
nothing.

That is, I don't find any option to position anything in relation to the
symbol, or set any "visible on schematic" options.

What is wrong?


BTW: I have tested this on Windows 2000 running natively (also happens
with Linux/WINE).
Hello Chris,

I have done it thousand times and it works. Here an example.

1. Open the symbol, e.g. LT1013.asy

2. Edit -> Attributes -> Attribute Window

3. Click on InstName

4. OK

5. Now you have "Unnn" on your cursor in the symbol window.


Please exercise under WIN to be sure not to fight with the WINE emulation.

Best regards,
Helmut
 
Helmut Sennewald wrote:
Hello Chris,

I have done it thousand times and it works. Here an example.

1. Open the symbol, e.g. LT1013.asy

2. Edit -> Attributes -> Attribute Window

3. Click on InstName

4. OK

5. Now you have "Unnn" on your cursor in the symbol window.


Please exercise under WIN to be sure not to fight with the WINE emulation.

Thanks for the input, Helmut.

As I said, I tried it under native Win2k. It doesn't work :-(

What is the OS you are using?

I am surprized that I'm having trouble under Win2k.


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Christopher R. Carlen
crobc@bogus-remove-me.sbcglobal.net
SuSE 9.1 Linux 2.6.5
 
Chris Carlen wrote:
Helmut Sennewald wrote:

Hello Chris,

I have done it thousand times and it works. Here an example.

1. Open the symbol, e.g. LT1013.asy

2. Edit -> Attributes -> Attribute Window

3. Click on InstName

4. OK

5. Now you have "Unnn" on your cursor in the symbol window.


Please exercise under WIN to be sure not to fight with the WINE
emulation.



Thanks for the input, Helmut.

As I said, I tried it under native Win2k. It doesn't work :-(

What is the OS you are using?

I am surprized that I'm having trouble under Win2k.


It works just fine under Win2k here. After you click the attribute
such as "InstName", then click "ok". You now can position it
where ever you want. But it does not show up on the screen
until you click "ok".
 
"Chris Carlen" <crobc@BOGUSFIELD.sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d88kn70csh@news3.newsguy.com...
Helmut Sennewald wrote:
Hello Chris,

I have done it thousand times and it works. Here an example.

1. Open the symbol, e.g. LT1013.asy

2. Edit -> Attributes -> Attribute Window

3. Click on InstName

4. OK

5. Now you have "Unnn" on your cursor in the symbol window.


Please exercise under WIN to be sure not to fight with the WINE
emulation.


Thanks for the input, Helmut.

As I said, I tried it under native Win2k. It doesn't work :-(

What is the OS you are using?

Hello Chris,
I have done this thousand times under WIN-98, WIN-2K, and WIN-XP.
Now I multiply this by ten thousand users which leads two ten
million times that somebody has done it successfully.

I am surprized that I'm having trouble under Win2k.
This has nothing to do with WIN-2K and LTspice. :)

Best regards,
Helmut
 
Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:

In LTspice 2.15c the docs state: "You can edit the visibility of
attributes using the menu command Edit|Attributes|Attribute Window.
After you select an attribute with this dialog you will be able to
position it as you wish with respect to the symbol."


I am able to get this dialog, but it appears to do nothing except, well,
nothing.

That is, I don't find any option to position anything in relation to the
symbol, or set any "visible on schematic" options.

What is wrong?


BTW: I have tested this on Windows 2000 running natively (also happens
with Linux/WINE).



Good day!
The LTSpice interface has oddities like this. For example, when you
create a dot command, using the 's' function, it leaves it floating,
invisible, on your cursor. You only see it when you move the cursor!

If you don't then place it by clicking the mouse, it cancels the
command, rather than placing it in some default location. I get caught
by this again and again. "Why doesn't this node have my .IC voltage?" I
shout. Then, of course, I immediately shout "Doh!", and retype it, this
time placing it in the schematic.

Now, I'm using this under linux/wine, so it may be that some of the
oddities have to do with that combination. However, if only the thing
would initially show up visible, it would save me a bit of time on occasion.

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Regards
 
"Bob Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:

In LTspice 2.15c the docs state: "You can edit the visibility of
attributes using the menu command Edit|Attributes|Attribute Window. After
you select an attribute with this dialog you will be able to position it
as you wish with respect to the symbol."


I am able to get this dialog, but it appears to do nothing except, well,
nothing.

That is, I don't find any option to position anything in relation to the
symbol, or set any "visible on schematic" options.

What is wrong?


BTW: I have tested this on Windows 2000 running natively (also happens
with Linux/WINE).



Good day!




The LTSpice interface has oddities like this. For example, when you create
a dot command, using the 's' function, it leaves it floating, invisible,
on your cursor. You only see it when you move the cursor!

If you don't then place it by clicking the mouse, it cancels the command,
rather than placing it in some default location. I get caught by this
again and again. "Why doesn't this node have my .IC voltage?" I shout.
Then, of course, I immediately shout "Doh!", and retype it, this time
placing it in the schematic.

Now, I'm using this under linux/wine, so it may be that some of the
oddities have to do with that combination. However, if only the thing
would initially show up visible, it would save me a bit of time on
occasion.

Hello Bob,

Your problem can be dedicated to WINE. People shouldn't always
try to tell that LTspice has bugs when using WINE. In reality
WINE has the bugs. I's the the task of the WINE programmers to
correctly run WIN-programs. They promise that you can run
WIN-programs, so they should fix their bugs.

Finally, every program has it's intended GUI behaviour. If you
want it always different, then you should try to write a
similar program. You will easily find that it's very difficult
or impossible to strictly keep a certain methodology throughout
all the features of a big program.

Best regards,
Helmut
 
none wrote:
It works just fine under Win2k here. After you click the attribute
such as "InstName", then click "ok". You now can position it
where ever you want. But it does not show up on the screen
until you click "ok".

Oh, now I get it.

Duh!


Thanks.


--
_____________________
Christopher R. Carlen
crobc@bogus-remove-me.sbcglobal.net
SuSE 9.1 Linux 2.6.5
 
Helmut Sennewald wrote:
Hello Chris,
I have done this thousand times under WIN-98, WIN-2K, and WIN-XP.
Now I multiply this by ten thousand users which leads two ten
million times that somebody has done it successfully.

I am surprized that I'm having trouble under Win2k.

This has nothing to do with WIN-2K and LTspice. :)

Implying what may I ask? That I am a bonehead?!?!?

Well in this case that happens to be correct. I dunno why I just didn't
click "Ok".

Now I get it. And I feel like mud. ;-)



Not really.


Thanks for the input.

Good day!




--
_____________________
Christopher R. Carlen
crobc@bogus-remove-me.sbcglobal.net
SuSE 9.1 Linux 2.6.5
 
Helmut Sennewald wrote:
The LTSpice interface has oddities like this. For example, when you create
a dot command, using the 's' function, it leaves it floating, invisible,
on your cursor. You only see it when you move the cursor!

If you don't then place it by clicking the mouse, it cancels the command,
rather than placing it in some default location. I get caught by this
again and again. "Why doesn't this node have my .IC voltage?" I shout.
Then, of course, I immediately shout "Doh!", and retype it, this time
placing it in the schematic.

Now, I'm using this under linux/wine, so it may be that some of the
oddities have to do with that combination. However, if only the thing
would initially show up visible, it would save me a bit of time on
occasion.



Hello Bob,

Your problem can be dedicated to WINE. People shouldn't always
try to tell that LTspice has bugs when using WINE. In reality
WINE has the bugs. I's the the task of the WINE programmers to
correctly run WIN-programs. They promise that you can run
WIN-programs, so they should fix their bugs.

Finally, every program has it's intended GUI behaviour. If you
want it always different, then you should try to write a
similar program. You will easily find that it's very difficult
or impossible to strictly keep a certain methodology throughout
all the features of a big program.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm getting more and more fond of LTSpice. It is
simply that this particular situation annoys me, and I thought it might
be the same issue as Chris was seeing.

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Regards
 

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