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[Rick C]

It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.

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[bitrex]

On 7/31/19 1:37 PM, Rick C wrote:

It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.

Gerrymandering is a political tradition and seems to only increase in
popularity with time, I think there'd have to be some significant
bipartisan interest in putting a stop to it before a Constitutional
amendment wrt the electoral college could ever hope to get any interest,
either.

It doesn't seem to be there. The electoral college is national level
gerrymandering but nobody seems to care hat much about the local kind,
even. Cart before the horse.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/31/19 2:35 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/31/19 1:37 PM, Rick C wrote:
It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a
majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House
votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment
to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the
Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation
in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a
majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to
decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s
three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the
House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority
of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to
continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.


Gerrymandering is a political tradition and seems to only increase in
popularity with time, I think there'd have to be some significant
bipartisan interest in putting a stop to it before a Constitutional
amendment wrt the electoral college could ever hope to get any interest,
either.

It doesn't seem to be there. The electoral college is national level
gerrymandering but nobody seems to care hat much about the local kind,
even. Cart before the horse.

The Right in particular views gerrymandering and the electoral college
as the least-worst option to maintaining power with respect to all the
not-European immigrant demographic shifts, who, in their minds, only
ever vote Democrat.

Making it outright illegal for all non-whites to vote is their ideal
solution, and they may get it eventually once the death camps are fully
operational.

but for now it's a tough row to hoe. Gerrymandering and the EC is the
next best thing and the structure is already in place, anyway.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:35:42 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/31/19 1:37 PM, Rick C wrote:
It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.


Gerrymandering is a political tradition and seems to only increase in
popularity with time, I think there'd have to be some significant
bipartisan interest in putting a stop to it before a Constitutional
amendment wrt the electoral college could ever hope to get any interest,
either.

It doesn't seem to be there. The electoral college is national level
gerrymandering but nobody seems to care hat much about the local kind,
even. Cart before the horse.

California took away the politicians' ability to define districts and
gave it to a presumably objective commission.

That was possible because we have popular referendums here. The
politicos in power would never vote to diminish their own power.





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[Robert Baer]

Rick C wrote:

It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.

Check; NOT a "college", and certainly puppet members were NOT elected.
It is a wonder that anyone knows who the F they are..

 

[bitrex]

On 7/31/19 2:50 PM, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:37:15 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.
Dream on, you need 3/4 of the states to approve an amendment.
(no small states are voting to give away power.)

I'd like to see states divvy up the popular vote, proportional
to what each candidate gets. (Like Maine), but that's not going
to happen either.

The judges (judge?) in Rhode Island traffic court sometimes sardonically
make fun of CT or MA residents who wind up there for ignoring or not
knowing the state laws and local ordinances.

"Oh so you thought it doesn't matter and nobody would notice, eh Mr. Big
Shot? I guess it does because looks like you're here, after all..."

Little-state syndrome

George H.

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[George Herold]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:37:15 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.

Dream on, you need 3/4 of the states to approve an amendment.
(no small states are voting to give away power.)

I'd like to see states divvy up the popular vote, proportional
to what each candidate gets. (Like Maine), but that's not going
to happen either.

George H.

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[George Herold]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:32:32 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:35:42 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/31/19 1:37 PM, Rick C wrote:
It's not bad enough the Presidential election is not decided by a majority of the population, if the electoral vote is tied, the House votes by state delegation rather than a head count!

"If the Electoral College splits 269-269 in 2020, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution dictates that the House pick a president and the Senate a vice president. But unlike a vote on a piece of legislation in the House, winning the presidency requires the support of a majority of state delegations — whereby each state votes as a unit to decide a winner, with New York’s 27 House members and New Mexico’s three getting equal say. Though Democrats have more members in the House right now by a 235 to 197 margin, Republicans form the majority of 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 22, and the GOP is likely to continue to hold most of those state delegations in 2020."

Yet another reason to get rid of the electoral college.


Gerrymandering is a political tradition and seems to only increase in
popularity with time, I think there'd have to be some significant
bipartisan interest in putting a stop to it before a Constitutional
amendment wrt the electoral college could ever hope to get any interest,
either.

It doesn't seem to be there. The electoral college is national level
gerrymandering but nobody seems to care hat much about the local kind,
even. Cart before the horse.

California took away the politicians' ability to define districts and
gave it to a presumably objective commission.

That was possible because we have popular referendums here. The
politicos in power would never vote to diminish their own power.

That seems intelligent, you also have 'open primaries' so the general
election could be two Ds or two Rs. That should lead to less
extremes.

Splitting the electoral votes in a state, makes everyone's vote
count. All states could do that without any amendment.
How do you get to have referendums? NYS politics is hidebound.

George H.

George H.

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