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P
Peeler
Guest
On 8 Mar 2023 16:00:02 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Other than the NORPAK debacle it was all TTL and eventually CMOS before I
Ah, there they are again, your cherished capital letters that are almost as
impressive as your grand personality! LOL
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Other than the NORPAK debacle it was all TTL and eventually CMOS before I
Ah, there they are again, your cherished capital letters that are almost as
impressive as your grand personality! LOL
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
R
Rod Speed
Guest
On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 02:18:15 +1100, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
Bullshit on the unreliable.
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On 8 Mar 2023 03:16:12 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:47:32 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Tommy Flowers just about managed to make a crude computer out of
them...
https://hackaday.com/2021/12/27/single-bit-computer-from-vacuum-tubes/
I consider myself luck to have joined the workforce at the very tail end
of vacuum tube logic. You can implement a NOR gate and you can build
anything from NOR gates if you don\'t mind going insane.
The first DTL and TTL parts were nand and jk flops. Before that, we
had RTL which was mostly nor. Both were horrible, slow and expensive
and unreliable.
Bullshit on the unreliable.
Square D\'s first shot at solid state was called NORPAK. Each plug-in
module had 10 NOR gates constructed with discrete components. You wired
them up on the backplane with tapered pin jumpers that you set with
something like an automatic centerpunch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOR_logic
P
Peeler
Guest
On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 06:03:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rodent Speed:
\"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?\"
MID: <g4ihlaFh5p5U2@mid.individual.net>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rodent Speed:
\"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?\"
MID: <g4ihlaFh5p5U2@mid.individual.net>
P
Peeler
Guest
On 9 Mar 2023 05:08:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
The resident grandiloquent bigmouth is at it again. LOL
<FLUSH the inevitable grandiloquent crap unread>
--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Not an actual term outside of my imagination. TensorFlow is a Google
endeavor and they provide a web interface called Colab where you can
execute TF in Python.
The resident grandiloquent bigmouth is at it again. LOL
<FLUSH the inevitable grandiloquent crap unread>
--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
P
Peeler
Guest
On 10 Mar 2023 06:40:42 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> I tried the green variety once a long time ago. A little goes a long way.
HIGHLY interesting, again! Just like every other tiny detail about your
fascinating personality. <BG>
--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> I tried the green variety once a long time ago. A little goes a long way.
HIGHLY interesting, again! Just like every other tiny detail about your
fascinating personality. <BG>
--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
P
Peeler
Guest
On 13 Mar 2023 02:57:20 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> I still have my HP-16C.
....and your big mouth! Never forget about that. Anyway, I\'m convinced it
will outlive you and need to be put to death separately. <BG>
--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> I still have my HP-16C.
....and your big mouth! Never forget about that. Anyway, I\'m convinced it
will outlive you and need to be put to death separately. <BG>
--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>
P
Peeler
Guest
On 17 Mar 2023 01:57:55 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Just how much shit can a self-admiring grandiloquent senile bigmouth like
you squeeze out of his sick senile head? It seems to get produced endlessly
in your senile head.
--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
RPI had a mostly working model maglev train and were trying to build a
full scale demo with about a mile of track in Rensselaer, NY. That was c.
1968. I don\'t think they even got the demo working.
China and Japan at least have working systems but a cost/benefit analysis
has never been friendly to the technology.
Just how much shit can a self-admiring grandiloquent senile bigmouth like
you squeeze out of his sick senile head? It seems to get produced endlessly
in your senile head.
--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
P
Peeler
Guest
On 20 Mar 2023 04:11:05 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> But it\'s much easier
EVERYTHING is easier than make you endlessly gossiping washerwoman shut up!
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> But it\'s much easier
EVERYTHING is easier than make you endlessly gossiping washerwoman shut up!
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:45:28 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/04/2023 11:43, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 02/04/2023 20:34, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Frankly, crap in one ear was mad enough. Stereo crap was unusable
And channel space in MW bands is very limited
Google Shannon.
Shannon is a river in Ireland. And a city. And an airport.
And an engineer.
Try \"Shannon\'s Law\" (no quotes needed). Google can be dumb!
Andy
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
P
Peeler
Guest
On 3 Apr 2023 15:38:25 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> And a couple of women I\'ve known...
Women like yourself? Endlessly blathering, gossiping women, with a beard and
a pony tail and a purple bedroom? <BG>
--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> And a couple of women I\'ve known...
Women like yourself? Endlessly blathering, gossiping women, with a beard and
a pony tail and a purple bedroom? <BG>
--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
--
\"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) \"
Alan Sokal
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:45:28 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/04/2023 11:43, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 02/04/2023 20:34, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Frankly, crap in one ear was mad enough. Stereo crap was unusable
And channel space in MW bands is very limited
Google Shannon.
Shannon is a river in Ireland. And a city. And an airport.
And an engineer.
Try \"Shannon\'s Law\" (no quotes needed). Google can be dumb!
Andy
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
--
\"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) \"
Alan Sokal
V
Vir Campestris
Guest
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Andy
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Andy
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
As someone pointed out, silence isn\'t a very high data rate.
Audio does not fully populate the entire spectrum, energy wise. Ther is
room to squish.
> Andy
--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.
Jonathan Swift
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Actually it can there too.
As someone pointed out, silence isn\'t a very high data rate.
Audio does not fully populate the entire spectrum, energy wise. Ther is
room to squish.
> Andy
--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.
Jonathan Swift
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec, an audio format similar to
MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any
loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you
will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for
audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite
player (or your car or home stereo, see supported devices) just like you
would an MP3 file.
FLAC stands out as the fastest and most widely supported lossless audio
codec, and the only one that at once is non-proprietary, is unencumbered
by patents, has an open-source reference implementation, has a well
documented format and API, and has several other independent
implementations.
--
âThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.\"
- Bertrand Russell
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Andy
FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec, an audio format similar to
MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any
loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you
will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for
audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite
player (or your car or home stereo, see supported devices) just like you
would an MP3 file.
FLAC stands out as the fastest and most widely supported lossless audio
codec, and the only one that at once is non-proprietary, is unencumbered
by patents, has an open-source reference implementation, has a well
documented format and API, and has several other independent
implementations.
--
âThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.\"
- Bertrand Russell
M
Max Demian
Guest
On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
Who else is going to listen it, other than humans?
--
Max Demian
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Who else is going to listen it, other than humans?
--
Max Demian
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 05/04/2023 15:10, Max Demian wrote:
The issue that the only audio that CANNOT be compressed is full volume
white noise, but unless you are a fan of Stockhausen that ain\'t music.
Lossless compression looks for periods of low information rate and packs
them in shorter times spans, so that only e,g, the cymbal clash or
audience applauses is left uncompressed. Periods of silence with just
audience breathing and the odd cough can be sent in way fewer data packets.
--
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
I quoted FLAC, 100% no loss of quality compressed audio.On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Who else is going to listen it, other than humans?
The issue that the only audio that CANNOT be compressed is full volume
white noise, but unless you are a fan of Stockhausen that ain\'t music.
Lossless compression looks for periods of low information rate and packs
them in shorter times spans, so that only e,g, the cymbal clash or
audience applauses is left uncompressed. Periods of silence with just
audience breathing and the odd cough can be sent in way fewer data packets.
--
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
P
Peeler
Guest
On 8 Apr 2023 04:06:02 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Why the hell would I want to get rid of bears? Or cougars? Or wolves?
Why the hell don\'t you want to get rid of the troll baiting you time and
again with the most idiotic baits, you subnormal troll-feeding senile
cretin, bigmouth, braggart and Yankietard?
--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Why the hell would I want to get rid of bears? Or cougars? Or wolves?
Why the hell don\'t you want to get rid of the troll baiting you time and
again with the most idiotic baits, you subnormal troll-feeding senile
cretin, bigmouth, braggart and Yankietard?
--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
C
Commander Kinsey
Guest
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 07:30:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Unnecessary bollocks. 192kbps mp3 is not differentiable from the original.
On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Andy
FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec, an audio format similar to
MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any
loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you
will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for
audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite
player (or your car or home stereo, see supported devices) just like you
would an MP3 file.
FLAC stands out as the fastest and most widely supported lossless audio
codec, and the only one that at once is non-proprietary, is unencumbered
by patents, has an open-source reference implementation, has a well
documented format and API, and has several other independent
implementations.
Unnecessary bollocks. 192kbps mp3 is not differentiable from the original.
C
Commander Kinsey
Guest
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 20:04:26 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nonsense, just wrote a code meaning white noise then recreate it. It\'s only random anyway.
On 05/04/2023 15:10, Max Demian wrote:
On 04/04/2023 21:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/04/2023 16:14, John Larkin wrote:
Audio can be compressed more than the Sampling Theorem originally
suggested.
No, it cannot.
Well it can, and it can\'t.
If you want something a human can\'t tell from the original it can.
If you want a 100% accurate reproduction it can\'t.
Who else is going to listen it, other than humans?
I quoted FLAC, 100% no loss of quality compressed audio.
The issue that the only audio that CANNOT be compressed is full volume
white noise,
Nonsense, just wrote a code meaning white noise then recreate it. It\'s only random anyway.