Laptop screen developments ?

[Dean]

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

 

[Daniel Watman]

"Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
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After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was
put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet.
But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

He was probably talking about organic LED screens. So far the only thing

available in Australia (that I know of) is a digital camera with an OLED
screen. I forget the brand. I doubt they will be available in large sizes eg
laptop screens for a few years though.

-Daniel

 

[Grant R]

This maybe of some interest- maybe not for laptop use in the next
year, but I would suggest pretty soon.
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/AM550LDisplay.jhtml
Grant
PS the "development kit" comes in at a hefty US$5500- sort of puts the
small developer out of the race.


On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

 

[Newsy]

"Daniel Watman" <py@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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"Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
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After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was
put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that
I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet.
But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

He was probably talking about organic LED screens. So far the only thing
available in Australia (that I know of) is a digital camera with an OLED
screen. I forget the brand. I doubt they will be available in large sizes
eg
laptop screens for a few years though.

Sharp have a range of 3d screens, which we will see as stand alone monitors
first.

Rod

-Daniel

 

[David L. Jones]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
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[Ray]

In article <40177a69.490658@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, tronnort_@yahoo.com
says...

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
wrote:
After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
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The laptop I got for work recently has 1400 x 1050 pixels on a 15"

display.
Nice for cutting code and debugging.

Can't say I've seen too many desktop LCD's at 15" with that resolution.

Perhaps this may be the big leap - larger resolutions on relatively
small screens....

 

[Newsy]

"Ray" <zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a822953cb4f64bc98969b@news.netspace.net.au...

In article <40177a69.490658@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, tronnort_@yahoo.com
says...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
wrote:
After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I
was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that
I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit
yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

The laptop I got for work recently has 1400 x 1050 pixels on a 15"
display.
Nice for cutting code and debugging.

Can't say I've seen too many desktop LCD's at 15" with that resolution.

Perhaps this may be the big leap - larger resolutions on relatively
small screens....

My new Toshiba Tecra S1 has a 15" screen 1600x1200 native resolution.
Wonderful screen.

Rod

>

 

[ArtWork]

Panasonic Toughbook if you have the money.
Screen quality is awesome and in full bright sunlight.

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"Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
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After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was
put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet.
But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

 

[K Dog]

OLED screens. VERY high quality screens!

KD

"Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
news:bv77ov$si1$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was
put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet.
But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

 

[onestone]

Some of the very first portable computers from Compaq used plasma
screens, although they were mono at the time. OLED/PLED displays are
going to be a vast improvement upon LCD, but are still expensive, and a
long way from the required resolution.

Al

Dean wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.

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[onestone]

Sorry, give me my 19" or 21" at 1600 x 1200 or upwards resolution over
the typical 1024 x 768 laptop any day. Even the 1280 x 1024 screens are
not adequate when you need a few windows at a time open. And games
playing! blurry as anything. They also have serious problems if you try
and display an image outside of 1:1 pixel resolution, the image looks
far worse than it does on a CRT.

Al

David L. Jones wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.


What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
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[DJ]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:18:07 +1100, Ray <zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au> wrote:

<snip>

The laptop I got for work recently has 1400 x 1050 pixels on a 15"
display.
Nice for cutting code and debugging.

Can't say I've seen too many desktop LCD's at 15" with that resolution.

Perhaps this may be the big leap - larger resolutions on relatively
small screens....

Not with my old eyes :-(

 

[agamlen]

onestone wrote:

Sorry, give me my 19" or 21" at 1600 x 1200 or upwards resolution over
the typical 1024 x 768 laptop any day. Even the 1280 x 1024 screens are
not adequate when you need a few windows at a time open. And games
playing! blurry as anything. They also have serious problems if you try
and display an image outside of 1:1 pixel resolution, the image looks
far worse than it does on a CRT.

Al

David L. Jones wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I
was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly that
I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit
yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a laptop
size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.



What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
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I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is

excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

agamlen <a.gamlen@pants.adfa.edu.au> wrote in message news:<401d9063$1@news.adfa.edu.au>...

I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is
excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.

Indeed, I am at a loss of where to start refuting some of these
'blurry screen' stories.

I have a Toshiba and can only describe it as being much sharper than
any CRT I have ever seen. Even full motion video looks better than a
CRT.

I once saw a Dell attempting to 'reformat' 800x600 onto a 1024x768
display, perhaps that could be described as 'blurry'. My 1024x768
Toshiba just displays 800x600 as a segment of the full screen.

You may have many things to say about LCDS (Brightness, Viewing angle,
etc.) but I can't see how 'bluriness' can be one of them, a
consequence of the way they work ensures they are 'sharp'.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Newsy]

"Mark van der Eynden" <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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agamlen <a.gamlen@pants.adfa.edu.au> wrote in message
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I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is
excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.

Indeed, I am at a loss of where to start refuting some of these
'blurry screen' stories.

I have a Toshiba and can only describe it as being much sharper than
any CRT I have ever seen. Even full motion video looks better than a
CRT.

I once saw a Dell attempting to 'reformat' 800x600 onto a 1024x768
display, perhaps that could be described as 'blurry'. My 1024x768
Toshiba just displays 800x600 as a segment of the full screen.

You may have many things to say about LCDS (Brightness, Viewing angle,
etc.) but I can't see how 'bluriness' can be one of them, a
consequence of the way they work ensures they are 'sharp'.

Cheers,

Mark

I've gone from using a desktop with 2 x 19" SXGA screens, plus a smaller
laptop with XGA screen to one new Toshiba laptop with one 15" 1600 x 1200
screen. I couldn't be happier with the sharpness and quality of the image.

Rod

 

[The Real Andy]

"Mark van der Eynden" <mvandere@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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agamlen <a.gamlen@pants.adfa.edu.au> wrote in message
news:<401d9063$1@news.adfa.edu.au>...

I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is
excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.

Indeed, I am at a loss of where to start refuting some of these
'blurry screen' stories.

Trust me, you do get blurry LCD's. Some of the older NEC units are terible
for this. It looks quite odd, as if the colour is somehow bleeding. Don't
know why it happens, but it does. Possibly a side affect of noise.

I have a Toshiba and can only describe it as being much sharper than
any CRT I have ever seen. Even full motion video looks better than a
CRT.

I once saw a Dell attempting to 'reformat' 800x600 onto a 1024x768
display, perhaps that could be described as 'blurry'. My 1024x768
Toshiba just displays 800x600 as a segment of the full screen.

You may have many things to say about LCDS (Brightness, Viewing angle,
etc.) but I can't see how 'bluriness' can be one of them, a
consequence of the way they work ensures they are 'sharp'.

If you are reffereing to LVDS, they are much better. I think you will find
most laptops will use LVDS busses. In fact, i wouldn't be surpised if this
eventully takes the place of the current unbalanced VGA signals.

 

[onestone]

My eyes are over 50 years old, and have had a hard life. beleieve me a
19" CRT looks far superior to any 15" display, especially an LCD. I also
have a few technical issues with LCD displays in my work area. They are
so electrically noisy (or at least the ones I've tried have been, and
that includes laptops, and some good modern quality standalones, which I
evaluated for a while before buying my new PC in December) that I use
the screen on my laptop for basic noise immunity testing, and to test
the robustness of RF links. To those with well functioning eyes they may
look great but I'll wait until PLED becomes affordable.

Al

agamlen wrote:

onestone wrote:

Sorry, give me my 19" or 21" at 1600 x 1200 or upwards resolution over
the typical 1024 x 768 laptop any day. Even the 1280 x 1024 screens
are not adequate when you need a few windows at a time open. And games
playing! blurry as anything. They also have serious problems if you
try and display an image outside of 1:1 pixel resolution, the image
looks far worse than it does on a CRT.

Al

David L. Jones wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:49 +0800, "Dean" <dbd@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
wrote:

After comming dangerously close to buying a laptop last Christmas, I
was put
off by the problem of their screen quality. While LCD screens have
improved
a lot of the past few years, I still dont need a laptop so badly
that I'm
willing to put up with it - I can wheel my desktop around for a bit
yet. But
a guy in a computer shop said to expect a big leap forward in screen
quality
fairly soon. Does anyone here know what's comming in portable screens ?
Maybe they've found a way to put those 'plasma' screens into a
laptop size.
If only they weren't so sensitive to direction.

Dean.




What is the problem with laptop TFT LCD screens?
I find they are far superior to CRTs, and have been for almost 10
years now. Much better contrast ratio and easier on the eyes.

Dave
---------------------------
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I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is
excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.

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[onestone]

Blurry on rapid motion, and blurry when pixel resolution is NOT 1:1. ie
NOT sharp. I don't WANT to view a hi resolution image a bit at a time, I
want the whole picture on screen, LCD's fall down in this area, badly.
By digital camera shoots at 1850 horizontal resolution, On my CRT this
looks good both magnified and shrunk, to almost any scale. On the
largest LCD I tested, a 1600 x 1200 unit, it was not possible to view an
acceptable (to me) quality image. At 1:1 I get only part of the picture
(although the clarity was probably as good as the CRT), which I don't
want, at lower resolutions the picture lacked clarity when viewed close up.

Al


Mark van der Eynden wrote:

agamlen <a.gamlen@pants.adfa.edu.au> wrote in message news:<401d9063$1@news.adfa.edu.au>...

I have a dell 5150 with a 15" 1600 X 1200 lcd screen and it is is
excellent. I have a 19" crt but I don't use it. I'm addicted to SOF2
and play online daily and it is not blurry at all. I also use this
machine to watch dvds.


Indeed, I am at a loss of where to start refuting some of these
'blurry screen' stories.

I have a Toshiba and can only describe it as being much sharper than
any CRT I have ever seen. Even full motion video looks better than a
CRT.

I once saw a Dell attempting to 'reformat' 800x600 onto a 1024x768
display, perhaps that could be described as 'blurry'. My 1024x768
Toshiba just displays 800x600 as a segment of the full screen.

You may have many things to say about LCDS (Brightness, Viewing angle,
etc.) but I can't see how 'bluriness' can be one of them, a
consequence of the way they work ensures they are 'sharp'.

Cheers,

Mark

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