Laptop power adaptor using battery bay and connector?

[Peter Hucker]

I have a few laptops which have a broken power connector. It is virtually impossible to repair them. I'm sure I saw somewhere a device which was essentially a power supply which powered the laptop through the battery connector. Does anyone know where I can get one?

They are Dell Latitude D600 and D610 machines.

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___________
\ /
)_______(
|"""""""|_.-._,.---------.,_.-._
| | | | | | ''-.
| |_| |_ _| |_..-'
|_______| '-' `'---------'` '-'
)"""""""(
/_________\
`'-------'`
.-------------.
/_______________\

 

[Gordon]

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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I have a few laptops which have a broken power connector. It is virtually
impossible to repair them. I'm sure I saw somewhere a device which was
essentially a power supply which powered the laptop through the battery
connector. Does anyone know where I can get one?

They are Dell Latitude D600 and D610 machines.

--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com
http://www.petersphotos.com

___________
\ /
)_______(
|"""""""|_.-._,.---------.,_.-._
| | | | | | ''-.
| |_| |_ _| |_..-'
|_______| '-' `'---------'` '-'
)"""""""(
/_________\
`'-------'`
.-------------.
/_______________\

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:15:26 +0100, Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
newsp.uh3nxgi04buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
I have a few laptops which have a broken power connector. It is virtually
impossible to repair them. I'm sure I saw somewhere a device which was
essentially a power supply which powered the laptop through the battery
connector. Does anyone know where I can get one?

They are Dell Latitude D600 and D610 machines.

--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com
http://www.petersphotos.com

___________
\ /
)_______(
|"""""""|_.-._,.---------.,_.-._
| | | | | | ''-.
| |_| |_ _| |_..-'
|_______| '-' `'---------'` '-'
)"""""""(
/_________\
`'-------'`
.-------------.
/_______________\


Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.

The RFC was written in 1802.

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[Adrian C]

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.

The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your chance of
getting a sensible answer from usenet.

I've never seen what you are looking for.

Try asking around the forumns. They may even like your sig


--
Adrian C

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.

The RFC was written in 1802.


With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your chance of
getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like sig size and line length any more.

I've never seen what you are looking for.

Try asking around the forumns. They may even like your sig

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A virile, young Italian gentleman was relaxing at his favorite bar in Rome, when he managed to attract a spectacular young blonde.
Things progressed to the point where he invited her back to his apartment, and after some small talk, they retired to his bedroom and made love.
After a pleasant interlude, he asked with a smile, "So, you finish?"
She paused for a second, frowned and admitted, "No."
Surprised, the young man reached for her and the love making resumed.
This time she thrashes about wildly and there are screams of passion.
The lovemaking ends, and again, the young man smiles, and again he asks, "So, you finish?"
And again, after a short pause, she returns his smile, cuddles closer to him, and softly says, "No."
Stunned, but damned if this woman is going to outlast him, the young man reaches for the woman again.
Using the last of his strength he barely manages it, but they climax simultaneously, screaming, bucking, clawing and ripping the bed sheets.
The exhausted man falls onto his back, gasping.
Barely able to turn his head, he looks into her eyes, smiles proudly, and asks again, "So, you finish?"
Barely able to speak, she whispers in his ear, "No! I Norwegian."

 

[John Williamson]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your chance of
getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like sig size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the optional
mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off the
shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:47:55 +0100, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your chance of
getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like sig size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

I've got loads of polite answers, not necessarily all in here, I posted the query to loads of groups.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the optional
mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

That rings a bell. It's possible that's what I'm thinking of.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off the
shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

It's the battery connector that would suck. Maybe I should dismantle a dead battery?

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.

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"I'm the lifeguard," she replied matter-of-factly. "I couldn't get out until you did."

 

[BillW50]

In newsp.uh5lc30z4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:52:05 +0100:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:47:55 +0100, John Williamson
johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid
wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your
chance of getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like sig
size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

I've got loads of polite answers, not necessarily all in here, I
posted the query to loads of groups.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the optional
mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

That rings a bell. It's possible that's what I'm thinking of.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off
the shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

It's the battery connector that would suck. Maybe I should dismantle
a dead battery?

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.

I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 8GB
Windows XP SP2 and Xandros Linux

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:22:00 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

In newsp.uh5lc30z4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:52:05 +0100:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:47:55 +0100, John Williamson
johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid
wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your
chance of getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like sig
size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

I've got loads of polite answers, not necessarily all in here, I
posted the query to loads of groups.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the optional
mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

That rings a bell. It's possible that's what I'm thinking of.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off
the shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

It's the battery connector that would suck. Maybe I should dismantle
a dead battery?

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.

I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

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You are the only person I know that has ever had a brain tumour removed from their arse.

 

[BillW50]

In newsp.uies8zg44buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:20:49 +0100:

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:22:00 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

In newsp.uh5lc30z4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:52:05 +0100:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:47:55 +0100, John Williamson
johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid
wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your
chance of getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like
sig size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

I've got loads of polite answers, not necessarily all in here, I
posted the query to loads of groups.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the
optional mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

That rings a bell. It's possible that's what I'm thinking of.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off
the shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

It's the battery connector that would suck. Maybe I should
dismantle a dead battery?

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.

I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery
is in by its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a
problem. The tricky part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at
the same time. Then the stock one just might want to charge the
battery emulator. But I believe this wouldn't be a problem for most
people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a
reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

It is hard to say depending on the design. But I have done it before and it
worked fine. The other connectors are usually there for safety and the
charging circuit which you don't need anyway.

Although keep in mind, the AC adapters are a few volts higher than what the
battery voltage is. And I wouldn't feed too much higher than the battery. So
I wouldn't feed the original supply into it. But whatever supply you use, it
should be well regulated.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 8GB
Windows XP SP2 and Xandros Linux

 

[John Williamson]

Peter Hucker wrote:
<Snipping>

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.
I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

They're there to let the laptop charging circuitry monitor the battery

temperature while charging, usually. Sometimes, there's a way for the
laptop to monitor individual cells, but that's rare.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

 

[Fixer]

"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:6kkkmfF8dol4U1@mid.individual.net...

Peter Hucker wrote:
Snipping
BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.
I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in
by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe
this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a
reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

They're there to let the laptop charging circuitry monitor the battery
temperature while charging, usually. Sometimes, there's a way for the
laptop to monitor individual cells, but that's rare.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Why over complicate the situation, just buy another board off Ebay Ł40 for
the D600

 

[John Williamson]

Fixer wrote:

"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:6kkkmfF8dol4U1@mid.individual.net...
Peter Hucker wrote:
Snipping
BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.
I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in
by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe
this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.
I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a
reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

They're there to let the laptop charging circuitry monitor the battery
temperature while charging, usually. Sometimes, there's a way for the
laptop to monitor individual cells, but that's rare.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Why over complicate the situation, just buy another board off Ebay Ł40 for
the D600

If it were me doing it, I'd have just set a regulated supply to whatever

voltage it said on the battery & used a couple of clips to connect it
up. The OP wants a more elegant solution. Alternatively, I'd have bought
another laptop of the same type & kept mine for spares.

--
Tciao for Now!

JOhn.

 

[Adrian C]

John Williamson wrote:

Why over complicate the situation, just buy another board off Ebay Ł40
for the D600

Agree. Even further I'd have sourced and replaced the socket - or found
someone experienced to do it...

You can find them for Ł4 on eBay including post.

e.g item 160201497944

Service manual for the D600 here
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/sm/index.htm

Useful website
http://www.laptoprepair101.com


--
Adrian C

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:08:10 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

In newsp.uies8zg44buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:20:49 +0100:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:22:00 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

In newsp.uh5lc30z4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net,
Peter Hucker typed on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:52:05 +0100:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:47:55 +0100, John Williamson
johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:54:02 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid
wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Amend your sig please the RFC says FOUR lines only.
The RFC was written in 1802.

With an attitude like that you have probably now killed your
chance of getting a sensible answer from usenet.

In my experience there are very few that care about things like
sig size and line length any more.

Obviously some here do, or you'd have got a polite answer by now.

I've got loads of polite answers, not necessarily all in here, I
posted the query to loads of groups.

The last time I saw anything likw what you describe was the
optional mains adaptor for a Panasonic camcorder in about 1990.

That rings a bell. It's possible that's what I'm thinking of.

Of course, you *could* always design & build one yourself using off
the shelf components from Maplins. It's not rocket science.

It's the battery connector that would suck. Maybe I should
dismantle a dead battery?

BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.

I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery
is in by its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a
problem. The tricky part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at
the same time. Then the stock one just might want to charge the
battery emulator. But I believe this wouldn't be a problem for most
people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a
reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

It is hard to say depending on the design. But I have done it before and it
worked fine. The other connectors are usually there for safety and the
charging circuit which you don't need anyway.

Although keep in mind, the AC adapters are a few volts higher than what the
battery voltage is. And I wouldn't feed too much higher than the battery. So
I wouldn't feed the original supply into it. But whatever supply you use, it
should be well regulated.

I'll give it a shot. The laptop is otherwise useless anyway (apart from spares - but then I've got lots with the same spares now!)

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The lady asks her, "Whose baby is it?"
The blonde says, "Well, I don't know they are going to do blood tests, but I think it's mine."

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:32:29 +0100, Fixer <steve.haberfield@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:6kkkmfF8dol4U1@mid.individual.net...
Peter Hucker wrote:
Snipping
BTW, I'd have to emulate a battery - the laptop will expect to be
able to communicate with it to know how full it is, and no I'm too
un-knowledgable and lazy to build something that complex.
I believe most laptops figure out how much of a charge the battery is in
by
its output voltage. So I don't think that would be a problem. The tricky
part would be if you ever used both DC inputs at the same time. Then the
stock one just might want to charge the battery emulator. But I believe
this
wouldn't be a problem for most people.

I was assuming the other connectors on the battery were there for a
reason. Are you sure about the laptop not needing them?

They're there to let the laptop charging circuitry monitor the battery
temperature while charging, usually. Sometimes, there's a way for the
laptop to monitor individual cells, but that's rare.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Why over complicate the situation, just buy another board off Ebay Ł40 for
the D600

If I could remove the board easily, I could simply replace the power connector.

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Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is survived by two stepbrothers; My Rights and Ima Whiner. Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:06:20 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

John Williamson wrote:

Why over complicate the situation, just buy another board off Ebay Ł40
for the D600

Agree. Even further I'd have sourced and replaced the socket - or found
someone experienced to do it...

You can find them for Ł4 on eBay including post.

e.g item 160201497944

Service manual for the D600 here
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/sm/index.htm

Useful website
http://www.laptoprepair101.com

The guy who said he couldn't go that far down the layers of the laptop used to be in power supply design and is pretty experienced.

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If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.

 

[Adrian C]

Peter Hucker wrote:

The guy who said he couldn't go that far down the layers of the
laptop used to be in power supply design and is pretty experienced.

He probably has valid experience but little patience for things that
initially look pasted together. Fortunately they are not.

Both you and him and the service manual could get this sucker apart and
do the necessary. Just work on your oldest one first, don't lose the
screws and other small bits (I use clip'n'seal plastic bags), zap
circuitry with finger static, work on the carpet, have other
distractions, leave food inside or apply force in the wrong direction.
Take your time ;-)

Once you've done a few, then the process isn't as duanting as it first
seems. May even make you some money one day ...

--
Adrian C

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:02:52 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

The guy who said he couldn't go that far down the layers of the
laptop used to be in power supply design and is pretty experienced.


He probably has valid experience but little patience for things that
initially look pasted together. Fortunately they are not.

Both you and him and the service manual could get this sucker apart and
do the necessary. Just work on your oldest one first, don't lose the
screws and other small bits (I use clip'n'seal plastic bags), zap
circuitry with finger static, work on the carpet, have other
distractions, leave food inside or apply force in the wrong direction.
Take your time ;-)

Once you've done a few, then the process isn't as duanting as it first
seems. May even make you some money one day ...

I give him all the jobs I can't be bothered doing (usually dismantling printers) - he has a lot of patience (more than me anyway). For some reason he reckons they are impossible to put back together afterwards. But I'm going to have a go at proving him wrong. He'll hate that.

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They say confuscious does his crosswords with a pen.