Kettle dangerous?

[Craig]

I was wondering if someone could please give me some advise.

I have one of those cheap $15 kettles that was won in some prize. It is a
cordless one with approval ticks on the kettle and also the base and it's
rated at 2000W and the cable is rated at 7.5A

I noticed tonight that the plug had a small dent on the top of the plug on
the neutral side which I didn't notice before and must have been caused by
it getting too hot. The cable itself gets warm.
To get to the point, I did a P/V caculation and notice that it would be
drawing 8.3A @ 2000W even though the cable attached to it is rated at
7.5A. How is this legal and approved? What should I do about it? It is
some no-name brand obviously made in bulk from China.

Thanks,
Craig

 

[DJ]

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:56:50 GMT, Craig <craig@nospam.com> wrote:

I was wondering if someone could please give me some advise.

I have one of those cheap $15 kettles that was won in some prize. It is a
cordless one with approval ticks on the kettle and also the base and it's
rated at 2000W and the cable is rated at 7.5A

I noticed tonight that the plug had a small dent on the top of the plug on
the neutral side which I didn't notice before and must have been caused by
it getting too hot. The cable itself gets warm.
To get to the point, I did a P/V caculation and notice that it would be
drawing 8.3A @ 2000W even though the cable attached to it is rated at
7.5A. How is this legal and approved? What should I do about it? It is
some no-name brand obviously made in bulk from China.

Thanks,
Craig

If the cable is unpluggable it's quite possible there's some shonk involved
either in China or Australia. The approval could apply to the kettle only.
Otherwise, how do you know the cable is rated at 7.5A?

There was a long thread some time ago about IEC cords being sold that were not
rated at 10A, as they should be in Australia.

dj

 

[Craig]

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:07:18 +1100, DJ wrote:

If the cable is unpluggable it's quite possible there's some shonk involved
either in China or Australia. The approval could apply to the kettle only.
Otherwise, how do you know the cable is rated at 7.5A?

There was a long thread some time ago about IEC cords being sold that were not
rated at 10A, as they should be in Australia.

Sorry I should have mentioned that the cable is attached to the base and
it isn't an IEC lead. The plug says it's 7.5A
I also know about that thread and I'd rather not have that thing
happen again.

Craig

 

[John Tserkezis]

Craig wrote:

I have one of those cheap $15 kettles that was won in some prize. It is a
cordless one with approval ticks on the kettle and also the base and it's
rated at 2000W and the cable is rated at 7.5A

I noticed tonight that the plug had a small dent on the top of the plug on
the neutral side which I didn't notice before and must have been caused by
it getting too hot. The cable itself gets warm.
To get to the point, I did a P/V caculation and notice that it would be
drawing 8.3A @ 2000W even though the cable attached to it is rated at
7.5A. How is this legal and approved? What should I do about it? It is
some no-name brand obviously made in bulk from China.

To ask the obvious, have you considered binning it and buying decent one?
Since it was won, you won't really be losing anything.

--
Linux Registered User # 302622 <http://counter.li.org>

 

[Phil Allison]

"Craig" <craig@nospam.com>


The cable itself gets warm.


** So what ?????




............ Phil

 

[Bill]

haven't come across many 2000w appliances that don't cause the cable the get
warm.

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"Craig" <craig@nospam.com


The cable itself gets warm.


** So what ?????




........... Phil

 

[Richard Freeman]

"Craig" <craig@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:07:18 +1100, DJ wrote:


If the cable is unpluggable it's quite possible there's some shonk
involved
either in China or Australia. The approval could apply to the kettle
only.
Otherwise, how do you know the cable is rated at 7.5A?

There was a long thread some time ago about IEC cords being sold that
were not
rated at 10A, as they should be in Australia.


Sorry I should have mentioned that the cable is attached to the base and
it isn't an IEC lead. The plug says it's 7.5A
I also know about that thread and I'd rather not have that thing
happen again.

how warm is the cable getting ? I would expect a cable to a kettle to get a
bit warm but if it is getting to the point of the insulation softening or
too warm to comfortably touch then I would start to worry.
As for the slightly under rated cable under normal use this should not be
too much of a problem even if it is not the sort of thing I would either do
or recommend it is however also not the sort of thing I would worry about to
much - provided the cable did not get too warm.

Regards
Richard Freeman

 

[Leon.]

"Bill" <Bgates@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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haven't come across many 2000w appliances that don't cause the cable the
get
warm.

I have found that every 2000 W appliance is quite capable of melting a 1
AMP conductor..
As if by magic ????


Like, get to the point. The point is that the cable needs to be safe to run
about 8 amps , to get its 2000 W. depending on tolerance of the element, it
really should be a 10 or 15 amp plug and cable.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Leon." <leon@noteon.net>

Like, get to the point. The point is that the cable needs to be safe to
run
about 8 amps ,

** Which 7.5 amp ** nominal** rated cable IS !!!

Consider also that a jug is an intermittant load.




.......... Phil

 

[Bill]

how many 15 amp power points do you see in kitchens?


, it
> really should be a 10 or 15 amp plug and cable.

 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:56:50 GMT, Craig <craig@nospam.com> wrote:

I was wondering if someone could please give me some advise.

I have one of those cheap $15 kettles that was won in some prize. It is a
cordless one with approval ticks on the kettle and also the base and it's
rated at 2000W and the cable is rated at 7.5A

Keep in mind that a kettle is normally only drawing full power for a
few minutes and then switched off, allowing the cable to cool before
the same thing happens over depending upon use.

Don't know about flexible leads, but normal household TPS can
withstand overcurrent (and the above is not much) for like over an
hour before permanent damage is done. You can probably find some curve
somewhere showing the relationship.

 

[John]

If the plug is damaged then I would cut it off and replace it with a 10A
one.
<David Sauer> wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:56:50 GMT, Craig <craig@nospam.com> wrote:

I was wondering if someone could please give me some advise.

I have one of those cheap $15 kettles that was won in some prize. It is a
cordless one with approval ticks on the kettle and also the base and it's
rated at 2000W and the cable is rated at 7.5A

Keep in mind that a kettle is normally only drawing full power for a
few minutes and then switched off, allowing the cable to cool before
the same thing happens over depending upon use.

Don't know about flexible leads, but normal household TPS can
withstand overcurrent (and the above is not much) for like over an
hour before permanent damage is done. You can probably find some curve
somewhere showing the relationship.