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Will putting a pouch of rice in a toolbox with devices stop rust?
(I remember this was recommended, but I don't remember where)
(I remember this was recommended, but I don't remember where)
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Sjouke Burry
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On 1-12-2017 20:02, bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
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Sjouke Burry wrote:
au contraire.
"The metal tools may be kept inside the box and placed inside the tool box. When the uncooked rice becomes moist, replace it with a new set. This should help keep the humidity down and prevent rust from forming ..."
-- https://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-remove-rust-from-metal-tools
au contraire.
"The metal tools may be kept inside the box and placed inside the tool box. When the uncooked rice becomes moist, replace it with a new set. This should help keep the humidity down and prevent rust from forming ..."
-- https://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-remove-rust-from-metal-tools
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rickman
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bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote on 12/1/2017 5:23 PM:
Why would you ask a question and then argue with someone who gives an
answer. Did you not find that link until after you posted the question?
Personally I think the rice ball is a bit of BS. Yes, it will absorb
moisture, but why would your toolbox be wet? My tools don't rust in the
toolbox unless it gets wet. Then it would have a wet ball of rice which
wouldn't help prevent rust. Notice the qualifier, "This should help"... not
very much assurance there.
One time my tool boxes were inside a big box on the back of my truck. A
find powder snow fell and was blown between all the cracks in the lids of
the boxes. I didn't realize and when it warmed up a bit the snow melted and
all my tools got a fine surface rust, even the chromed ones. I don't think
a ball of rice would have prevented that.
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Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
Why would you ask a question and then argue with someone who gives an
answer. Did you not find that link until after you posted the question?
Personally I think the rice ball is a bit of BS. Yes, it will absorb
moisture, but why would your toolbox be wet? My tools don't rust in the
toolbox unless it gets wet. Then it would have a wet ball of rice which
wouldn't help prevent rust. Notice the qualifier, "This should help"... not
very much assurance there.
One time my tool boxes were inside a big box on the back of my truck. A
find powder snow fell and was blown between all the cracks in the lids of
the boxes. I didn't realize and when it warmed up a bit the snow melted and
all my tools got a fine surface rust, even the chromed ones. I don't think
a ball of rice would have prevented that.
--
Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
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default
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:02:26 -0800 (PST), bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
Doesn't answer your question maybe but I ran across an interesting
thought about tools and tool boxes. A machinist here had an old
wooden box he used for ages and always talked about getting a new one.
One Christmas his daughter got him a roll around metal Craftsman box
with all the bells and whistles.
He transferred the tools to the metal box and found they rusted at an
alarming rate. The consensus at the shop was that the wood boxes
would dry out when the weather was dry and absorb moisture when the
weather was humid - protecting the tools by ameliorating the swings in
humidity. But it's only a theory.
People put rice in salt shakers and swear by it.
Doesn't answer your question maybe but I ran across an interesting
thought about tools and tool boxes. A machinist here had an old
wooden box he used for ages and always talked about getting a new one.
One Christmas his daughter got him a roll around metal Craftsman box
with all the bells and whistles.
He transferred the tools to the metal box and found they rusted at an
alarming rate. The consensus at the shop was that the wood boxes
would dry out when the weather was dry and absorb moisture when the
weather was humid - protecting the tools by ameliorating the swings in
humidity. But it's only a theory.
People put rice in salt shakers and swear by it.
R
rickman
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default wrote on 12/1/2017 8:21 PM:
People put baking soda in their refrigerators and toss it out after a few
months. That was started by Arm&Hammer, a marketing ploy.
People do all sorts of shit. That's not a reason for anyone else to do it.
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Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
People put baking soda in their refrigerators and toss it out after a few
months. That was started by Arm&Hammer, a marketing ploy.
People do all sorts of shit. That's not a reason for anyone else to do it.
--
Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
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Tom Biasi
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On 12/1/2017 2:02 PM, bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
have to resort to a wives tale solution?
There are so many available products to absorb moisture why would you
have to resort to a wives tale solution?
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default
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 20:44:05 -0500, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
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rickman
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default wrote on 12/2/2017 6:57 AM:
You can call names all day long. That's not much of a debating point. It
only speaks to you, not me.
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Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
You can call names all day long. That's not much of a debating point. It
only speaks to you, not me.
--
Rick C
Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998
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Phil Hobbs
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On 12/01/2017 08:21 PM, default wrote:
Or possibly at it.
An oil rag in the tool box helps a lot. I generally give it a shot of
WD40 when I remember, and my tools don't rust.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Or possibly at it.
An oil rag in the tool box helps a lot. I generally give it a shot of
WD40 when I remember, and my tools don't rust.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Jim Thompson
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:54:47 -0500, Phil Hobbs
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"Rust"? What's that?
...Jim Thompson
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"Rust"? What's that?
...Jim Thompson
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Phil Hobbs
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On 12/02/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Something they have in places where there's more than just dirt and
rocks.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Something they have in places where there's more than just dirt and
rocks.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
https://hobbs-eo.com
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Jim Thompson
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 12:03:11 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Yep. Last three days we've had heavy cloud overcast... it'd rain
anywhere else... here we had upper 70°'s temperature, 38°F dew
point... you people back East are going to get another heavy dose of
rust ;-)
It last rained here August 3... probably rain again around end of
January, early February... yet we have no water shortage... wonder why
?>:-}
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<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 12/02/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:54:47 -0500, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 12/01/2017 08:21 PM, default wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:02:26 -0800 (PST), bruce2bowser@gmail.com wrote:
Will putting a pouch of rice in a toolbox with devices stop rust?
(I remember this was recommended, but I don't remember where)
Doesn't answer your question maybe but I ran across an interesting
thought about tools and tool boxes. A machinist here had an old
wooden box he used for ages and always talked about getting a new one.
One Christmas his daughter got him a roll around metal Craftsman box
with all the bells and whistles.
He transferred the tools to the metal box and found they rusted at an
alarming rate. The consensus at the shop was that the wood boxes
would dry out when the weather was dry and absorb moisture when the
weather was humid - protecting the tools by ameliorating the swings in
humidity. But it's only a theory.
People put rice in salt shakers and swear by it.
Or possibly at it.
An oil rag in the tool box helps a lot. I generally give it a shot of
WD40 when I remember, and my tools don't rust.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
"Rust"? What's that?
...Jim Thompson
Something they have in places where there's more than just dirt and
rocks.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Yep. Last three days we've had heavy cloud overcast... it'd rain
anywhere else... here we had upper 70°'s temperature, 38°F dew
point... you people back East are going to get another heavy dose of
rust ;-)
It last rained here August 3... probably rain again around end of
January, early February... yet we have no water shortage... wonder why
?>:-}
...Jim Thompson
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
I didn't know that. In a discussion, maybe someone knows of something even better than rice. I know sometimes these questions seem strange, though.
I didn't know that. In a discussion, maybe someone knows of something even better than rice. I know sometimes these questions seem strange, though.
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Ralph Mowery
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In article <1e14963b-fca2-4525-a6c4-33974e69debd@googlegroups.com>,
bruce2bowser@gmail.com says...
The silica gel packs are for removing the moisture. You often see small
packs of them in electronic equipment boxes. Maybe even medicine
bottles.
https://www.leisurepro.com/p-fntsgp/fantasea-silica-gel-packs-absorbs-
moisture-condensation?
gclid=CjwKCAiA3o7RBRBfEiwAZMtSCRoHsPsIqF6CZmhg3rZYmzDTpRqi6ztsIgPbJQdX8L
q64G6uhM-hZxoCeF0QAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid^228662146449-device^c-
plaid^297672295119-sku^FNTSGP@ADL4LP-adType^PLA
bruce2bowser@gmail.com says...
The silica gel packs are for removing the moisture. You often see small
packs of them in electronic equipment boxes. Maybe even medicine
bottles.
https://www.leisurepro.com/p-fntsgp/fantasea-silica-gel-packs-absorbs-
moisture-condensation?
gclid=CjwKCAiA3o7RBRBfEiwAZMtSCRoHsPsIqF6CZmhg3rZYmzDTpRqi6ztsIgPbJQdX8L
q64G6uhM-hZxoCeF0QAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid^228662146449-device^c-
plaid^297672295119-sku^FNTSGP@ADL4LP-adType^PLA
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Cursitor Doom
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 09:58:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> "Rust"? What's that?
Living in Arizona I somehow doubt you'll ever need to worry about it, Jim.
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> "Rust"? What's that?
Living in Arizona I somehow doubt you'll ever need to worry about it, Jim.
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:31:05 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
Because you don't have loads of movie stars watering their lawns, I'd
imagine. In fact you probably don't even have lawns in AZ. ;-)
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Because you don't have loads of movie stars watering their lawns, I'd
imagine. In fact you probably don't even have lawns in AZ. ;-)
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2017 05:29:14 -0800, bruce2bowser wrote:
Anhydrous copper sulphate perhaps. You can tell by the colour when it
gets damp. And you can dry it out again and re-use it over and over.
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Anhydrous copper sulphate perhaps. You can tell by the colour when it
gets damp. And you can dry it out again and re-use it over and over.
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Jim Thompson
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:20:46 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Actually we _do_ have LOTS of lawns... and swimming pools. But we
hack to death any snail darters we find >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Actually we _do_ have LOTS of lawns... and swimming pools. But we
hack to death any snail darters we find >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:18:55 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
When I first moved to Arizona I had a 1961 Renault Dauphine with some
rust spots acquired in Massa2shits.
Within a year those orange rust spots had turned to gray and didn't
proceed any further... passivation ?>:-}
...Jim Thompson
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<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
When I first moved to Arizona I had a 1961 Renault Dauphine with some
rust spots acquired in Massa2shits.
Within a year those orange rust spots had turned to gray and didn't
proceed any further... passivation ?>:-}
...Jim Thompson
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