Jihad needs scientists

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:13:49 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:57:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next
Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior,
if hugely different in degree and consequence.

Very different. The outcome could be similar though. This is why the USA needs
to be halted in its current idiotic behaviour.

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And just how do you propose to do that?

There's this thing called public opinion and it affects this other thing called
politics.

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Definitions aren't answers.

I'll ask you again: "Just how do you propose to do that?"


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John Fields
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[hanson]

"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4odj0hFdgl1tU1@individual.net...

hanson wrote:
BTW, how's that DMSO regimen working for you?. If you want
post under a differnt subject title into sci.chem. Take care, Dirk.
hanson

[Dirk]
It appears to have worked very well.
The rosacea had almost disappeared when I had to take a one week course of
metronidazole. Now it's gone completely, and it's been clear for the past
3 months with only some slight redness remaining (which makes me look
normal, since I have a very pale skin naturally). So, I've not had to
apply it for 3 months.

[hanson]

Now that is interesting, because as I recall early on in this
exchange, I doubted the diagnosis. It is interesting to see that
you are having undergone a course of metronidazole, a nitro
imidiazole, which is a tried and well established agent against
a wide variety of bugs, Bacteroides fragilis, Fusobacteriumm,
Clostridium Peptostreptococcus Mycoplasma hominis Trichomonas
vaginalis, etc. I am glad that it worked well on/for you. Against
the latter bug metronidazole is marketed as Flagyl to the broads
to cure their yeast infections.
So, think back & reminisce whether your condition did arise after
you ate some good pussy. I hope it was worth it. Anyway, sometime
the critters hang out and hide in the scalp and then sneak back into
your face when you sweat. Luckily a very effective simple maintenance
counter measure is to wash your hair with your regular shampoo to
which you have added ca, ~, about, no more than 3% Salicylic acid,
1% CuSO4*5aq 3-5% ZnO both dissolved in Citric acid or Household
vinegar before mixing it with and adding it into the Shampoo bottle.
No dandruff nor facial scuff should reoccur. Check the labels on
the shampoos. There are some on the market that contain S/Z/C
already.
Take care, Dirk.
hanson

Dirk

http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:21:28 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Of course. What you don't hear about is the clandestine work that's
being done. You're not supposed to.

And yet the Israelis get what they need done in a far more competent manner
with only a few errors.

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What does that have to do with clandestine work to which you're not
privy?


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John Fields
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In article <v673i2dusng3t5a82qt9hm7n8ve5p4t7ua@4ax.com>, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> writes:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it
would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose.


Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a
disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or
destroy western society or convert every one or...

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"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to
convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by
Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam.

Refusal to convert would result in death.

No, not quite. True about the part of world domination, not about the

other one. Islam recognizes two categories of non-believers. One is
"polytheists" for whom, indeed, the accepted options are conversion or
death. The other is "Um al_Kitab", meaning "Nations of the Book",
which includes Christians and Jews. These may be allowed to live
without converting but only as "dhimmi" (you may check on this term).
Meaning, second class subjects, possessing the (limited) rights
granted them by their Muslim rulers, with the stipulation that said
rights may be withdrawn at the whim of the rulers.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:21:29 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:

N'est pas?

Your 'French' is dreadful.

But he has an 8" tongue!

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You're disgusting.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:36:34 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"David Brown" <david.brown@hesbynett.removethisbit.no> wrote in message
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John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:48:31 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:17:17 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

I seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe".

Of course. What you don't hear about is the clandestine work that's
being done. You're not supposed to.

Doesn't sound like the cops
to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight.

Yup, we've got some bad ones, same like everywhere.

"Some bad ones" is more than a little disingenuous. The nutjob that
made the quoted words famous is supposed to be the leader of the free
world--he's not supposed to be one of the "bad ones". It really robs
him and his mission of credibility to act like some sort of
irresponsible cowboy.

In the first place, we were talking about 'cops' which, in my view,
refers to civilian officers of the law.

You're obviously referring to the President of the United States of
America, who is a civilian but, nonetheless, the Commander-in-Chief
of the armed forces of the United States of America, which places
him in a role quite different from that played by a common 'cop',
and to try to liken him to a cop strikes me as being a little
disingenuous.

You're right--he's supposed to answer to a far, far higher standard than the
police.


You may disagree with his policies and those of his staff, but the
fact remains that, for better or for worse, those policies will be
carried out and there's very little you or I can do to stop that
from happening.

Except to be as politically aware as possible, and to become part of the
rising tide of voices expressing displeasure with what the Bush regime is
trying to do and how they're doing it. Again, that's the one thing I value
most about my country--the right to express a dissenting opinion. I'm not
so arrogant as to believe that my voice alone should have the least effect
on the administration's policies, but when well more than half of the
population agree with me, I'm starting to think that maybe something might
actually get better.

It might surprise you to know that I am a longtime Republican. The
disingenuity and outright dishonesty of the Bush administration has
disgusted me with the modern Republican party. It used to be the party of
keeping government out of peoples' personal lives, staunch support for all
aspects of the First Amendment (and other Constitutional rights), and of
small, fiscally frugal government--and those are the values I support. Its
turning away from those values to pander for votes is part of what has
turned me off to the modern Republican party. Thankfully, some of the
Republicans in Congress are beginning to reconsider their blind allegiance
to the Bush administration's values.


It's fair enough that us "foreigners" can't do much about Bush and his
policies, but it's quite telling that you think that *you*, as an American
citizen, can't do anything either.

I actually agree in some ways. On the other hand, if you're in Britain and
disagree with Tony Blair, you have to admit it took a long time to do
anything about it. Bush will be out of office by January 2009. I, along
with most other people that disagree with the way that he's running the
country, am willing to wait it out and hope he doesn't do too much damage in
the meantime. Who knows what will come next--but the best we can do is make
sure the country chooses more wisely next time.

I have a great deal of respect for my country, but sometimes I think maybe
our Constitution could have been designed a little better. I think the
framers wanted to ride a balance between being able to get rid of a
president easily, a la the Prime Minister in the British parliamentary
system, and allowing a person to take over the country for a long time, as
happened in Iraq. In the first case, the President would be too subject to
the whims of the population, and in the latter, he would never have to
answer to the people. Perhaps the compromise we've come up with just makes
Presidents too hard to remove from office, but ironically, still too
beholden to the whim of popular opinion. I'm not sure there's a better
compromise to be had. At least George Washington was wise enough to refuse
a third nomination, and thus actively set a precedent for 8-year term limits
(he was also wise enough to rail against a political party system,
especially a 2-party system--it's a real shame we chose to ignore that
one!). It's also good that when FDR chose to ignore the precedent in the
1940s, at least Congress was wise enough to codify it into the Constitution.


I suggest that a letter to the White House or an email to:

http://answers.firstgov.gov/cgi-bin/gsa_ict.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php

might be appropriate if you can spare the time to make your thoughts
known to those who matter.

I do, occasionally. It's one of the big things that I really respect about
my country--my freedom to express my opinion about how the country is run,
despite the apparent wishes of some to silence me by threatening violence.
He has a right to free speech too, of course, but to paraphrase somebody,
his rights stop where my nose starts. Fortunately, I have the evidence, in
case he actually intends to make good on his threat--and the conspiracy to
commit assault would be a federal felony, since it would have taken place
across state lines using the phone lines that carry the Internet.

Eric Lucas

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Good post, thanks.


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John Fields
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John Fields wrote:

You miss no opportunity to lambaste the US, its population, its
government, its institutions, and you hate its very existence, so
what do you expect me to think, that you're a benevolent soul trying
to help with constructive criticism?

I thought it was fine under Clinton !

Yes, but you see, if he denigrates your point of view by labelling you as
someone that could never say anything good about the US, then he doesn't
have to take your point of view seriously and try to understand that perhaps
it might even be a valid point of view, that an intelligent person may be
capable of coming to through independent thought. It's the same thing the
Bush administration does by labelling everyone that disagrees with it a
"traitor" (under the *extremely* liberal interpretations that disagreeing
with your government is tantamount to aiding the enemy.) What they seem to
fail to understand is that the Constitution gives every US citizen is given
the *responsibility* to question its government *every single* day of their
lives. It really is sad that the Bush administration has seen fit to
legitimize this sort of anti-American behavior.

Eric Lucas

 

[Gordon]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote:
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message

So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it
would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose.


Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a
disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or
destroy western society or convert every one or...

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"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to
convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by
Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam.

Refusal to convert would result in death.

Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ?

Graham

Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated

in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example;

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Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their
heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the
rest make fast the fetters.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized
Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim
religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and
acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel.

Gordon

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:23:09 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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It might surprise you to know that I am a longtime Republican. The
disingenuity and outright dishonesty of the Bush administration has
disgusted me with the modern Republican party.

I wasn't happy with the selection of Bush (not really elected) and his ideas
of attacking Iraq.

---
For all your pretense of knowledge of things American, you should
have known that Bush was fully legally elected.

You see, it's not the popular vote which matters, it's the votes of
the electors which count, and _they_ were the ones that elected Bush
to office, regardless of the debacle in Florida.
---

It's also good that when FDR chose to ignore the precedent in the 1940s,
at least Congress was wise enough to codify it into the Constitution.

No, that was a bad idea. Clinton would have served the US much better for a
third term and was widely reported to be very fixated on terrorism (which
may have saved lives and billions).

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Had the Congress not enacted the two-term rule, Clinton might never
have been elected to the presidency.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:29:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:21:19 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
and the people in small towns and in the countryside were
almost always cheerful and friendly.

Absolutely! I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between rural
France and rural WV except for the road signs.

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They speak French in rural WV?


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:41:24 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

T Wake wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in

Good to see you Nederlanders are doing so well ;-)

I assume I have just missed the joke here. Is this going to be used in your
act?

He has a thing about them. To him it's simply an insult to call someone a
Netherlander. He doesn't approve of their 'liberal' thinking.

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Why don't you let Jim speak for himself?

Didn't your mother teach you anything but _bad_ manners?


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John Fields
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:04:16 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

And you claim to be human.

Which is the bigger stretch?

John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

Given your repeatedly hurling insults at people, I think a far bigger
stretch is you applying the adjective "Professional" to yourself. I've not
seen such unprofessional behavior from somebody who goes out of their way to
label themselves a "professional" in a long time. There's a big difference
between having a healthy disagreement that leads to mature discussion and
deeper understanding, and name-calling.

 

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Blow me.

John Fields
"Professional" Circuit Designer

Case in point.

Eric Lucas

 

[Ben Newsam]

On 29 Sep 2006 09:06:40 -0700, science_for_jihad@yahoo.com wrote:

The CV should contain information
reflecting the academic level reached by the candidate and his work
experience. The information however should not be so accurate as to
identify the candidate. An appropriately fantasious nickname and a
birth date corresponding to the approximate age of the candidate should
also be provided

LOL!

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:46:18 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

T Wake wrote:

Or "If we give you this money will you promise to use it to buy weapons and
fight [Insert Disliked Government of the Day] and promise never to fight
us - unless you really have to?"

Can you [or anyone] remind me why the Irish Republican terrorist
organisations received so much in the way of donations from concerned,
caring, American private citizens? I've never been all that sure myself.

I get of hearing this. They collected money in areas with high Irish
American population, and the average American heard nothing about it,
till the "TV news Exposé". If the average American had know about it
and had agreed with it, there would have been more than enough money
flowing into their coffers for them to have won. The ones who did
donate were people who came to the US to get away from the British, and
wanted to help those left behind, right or wrong.

So you're happy to admit to a desire to sponsor terrorism ?

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What's that all about?

All he wrote, it seemed to me, was a narrative.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:52:45 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:05:11 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

Graham has a pathological and mostly irrational hatred of America,

Not at all. I am however intruiged how Americancs invariably bring out the hate word the very second >even the tiniest
criticism is voiced against them.

It's not hate at all, more like despair at the crass stupidity of your governmemnt and the ppl who >elected them.

and makes up things to support that need.

Simply no need ever to do that !

So naturally he doesn't like to
be reminded about stuff like WWII or the Cold War. He believes that
the UK and Russia defeated Germany with little need for US assistance.

The USA was around 3 years late to the party of course. I have little doubt that Russia would have >eventually defeated
Germany anyway. Germany could certainly never ever have defeated Russia, the >numbers simply aren't even
remotelycredible.

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That's all Monday morning quarterbacking but, if as you say, had
Russia defeated Germany without the US being involved do you think
that you'd still be speaking English as a first language?

Probably. Once Germany knew it was losing it's quite likely that's they'd have abondoned the war with Britain and asked for
our help. History's quite clear on this point.

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And if you'd have helped them, Russia would have wiped you both out
because of Germany's double-crossing Russia and you'd be speaking
Russian right now, if anything.

If you'd elected not to help them, then Russia would have wiped them
out and who's to say Stalin wouldn't have had his eye on a weak
little island incapable of defending itself at that point? And for
that matter, all of Europe. In which case, if he had his way with
you, you'd be speaking Russian right now. In public, anyway.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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I wasn't happy with the selection of Bush (not really elected) and his
ideas
of attacking Iraq.

---
For all your pretense of knowledge of things American, you should
have known that Bush was fully legally elected.

You see, it's not the popular vote which matters, it's the votes of
the electors which count, and _they_ were the ones that elected Bush
to office, regardless of the debacle in Florida.

Court victory lets preserved Ohio 2004 ballots tell new tales of theft and
fraud as indictments and convictions mount
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
September 25, 2006

Ohio election protection activists have won a landmark court battle to
preserve the ballots from 2004's disputed presidential election, and
researchers studying those ballots continue to find new evidence that the
election was, indeed, stolen. Among other things, large numbers of
consecutive votes in different precincts for George W. Bush make it appear
ever more likely that the real winner in 2004 should have been John Kerry.
Meanwhile, indictments and prison terms are mounting among key players in
that tainted contest.

In King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association et. al. v. J. Kenneth
Blackwell, three community groups and five individuals have won a
precedent-setting federal decision preserving the ballots from the 2004
election. By federal law those ballots could have been destroyed en masse
September 3, twenty-two months after the November 2, 2004 balloting.
Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell gave every indication
that he would order the records to be destroyed as soon as he could.
Admissions have already come from a few counties that illegally disposed of
election-related materials well before the federal deadline. By law, all
such documents were to be preserved, under lock and key, right up to the
federal deadline.

While running the 2004 election, Blackwell served as the very active
co-chair of Ohio's Bush-Cheney campaign. He is now the GOP nominee for
governor, but is trailing substantially in all major polls behind Democratic
Congressman Ted Strickland.

Blackwell was put on notice by Columbus Attorney Cliff Arnebeck and others
who filed the King Lincoln suit contending illegal discrimination against
black and young voters in 2004. The suit is based on widespread allegations
involving mal-distribution of voting machines, dubious vote counts,
race-based voter suppression and many other questionable occurrences before,
during and after the 2004 balloting. The suit asked Judge Algernon Marbley
of the federal district court in Columbus to order Blackwell to force Ohio's
88 county boards of elections (BOEs) to preserve ballots and other
election-related materials so the full extent of the allegations could be
proven.

precincts in two counties have shown consecutive runs of Bush votes that
qualify as "virtual statistical impossibilities."


a.. In Delaware County, Precinct Genoa I, researcher Stuart Wright viewed
and recounted 3 separate bundles of ballots. In the second bundle, there
were 274 consecutive ballots for Bush. In the third bundle there were 359
consecutive ballots for Bush. Genoa I was not one of the four precincts
recounted as part of a required official recount, conducted on December 15,
2004.


b.. In Delaware County, BOE officials told Phillips that after the votes
were cast on Election Day, ballots were unloaded by a team of teenage
volunteers including the Boy Scouts who carried them into the BOE building
where they were then given to a "mentally retarded man" who scraped the
chads off the punch card ballots. Dr. Phillips estimates that the "mentally
retarded man" would have had to scrape four or five ballots per second on
election night in order to comply with the posting of the results at 12:40am
for the nearly 80,000 ballots cast there.


c.. In Delaware County, Ross Township precinct, Philips has discovered
that the BOE certified that 70% of the ballots cast for C. Ellen Connally,
an African-American woman from Cleveland running for the Ohio Supreme Court,
were also counted for Bush. The implausibility of this outcome in a white,
Republican suburb is underscored by the fact that Connally trailed both Bush
and Kerry very substantially throughout the rest of the state. Some 60% of
the Township's ballots opposing a constitutional amendment banning gay
marriage (which passed substantially) also were punched for Bush, an
extremely implausible outcome widely branded as the "Gays for Bush" anomaly.


d.. In Butler County, Phillips found that in Monroe City precinct 4CA,
Bush received 52 consecutive votes near the start of voting, and then
another run of 212 consecutive votes.


e.. Also in Butler Country, in Ross Township Precinct 4JB, Philips found
that Bush was awarded 547 votes to Kerry's 141 votes. In separate sequences,
Bush received 41, 29 and 25 straight votes. Neither 4CA nor 4JB were
involved in the recount.


f.. In Clermont County, which contributed significantly to Bush's margin
of victory, researcher Dr. Ronald Baiman discovered a suspicious use of
replacement ballots, that are meant to be issued only if a regular ballot is
somehow spoiled by a voter. In a random draw of one ballot from each of the
192 precincts, against huge odds, Baiman found a replacement ballot. Baiman
asked that the next ballot from the precinct be drawn and it, too, was a
replacement ballot. Continuing pulling ballots from that same precinct,
Baiman witnessed 36 straight replacement ballots in a row, a virtual
statistical impossibility. Dr. Philips recorded only five spoiled ballots in
this same precinct, raising the question of where the other 31 replacement
ballots came from.


g.. Also in Clermont County, Phillips found an opti-scan ballot with a
white sticker over the Kerry-Edwards spot which would prevent the counter
from recording a Kerry vote. During the December 2004 recount in Clermont
County, witnesses swore out official affidavits that they saw several
ballots with stickers over the Kerry-Edwards spot. The county prosecutor
claimed there were "less than one hundred" of these, but was unable to
explain why any stickers were there at all.


h.. In Miami County on Monday, June 19, 2006, Director Steve Quillan
handed co-author Bob Fitrakis a print-out of what he called "freely amended
results." Director Quillen said "You guys were right" regarding the voter
turnout in Concord South West Precinct, which had been listed as 98.55% in
the certified election results in 2004. Quillen also disavowed the alleged
94.3% voter turnout certified election results in Concord South. The Free
Press has questioned those results, which would have meant that 679 out of
689 people successfully voted in Concord South West. Using a computer
databank of voter history, Quillen now admits that the voter turnout was
just 82.1% in Concord South West and 79.5% in Concord, discrepancies of more
than 15%.


i.. In Miami County, BOE Director Quillen also says Boy Scouts who
volunteered to help on Election Day mistakenly took Concord South West
ballots to the Concord East precinct. Baiman found that the pollbooks and
absentee ballots in Miami County "have little to no relationship to the
voters who voted in the county." He also discovered that "At least 8% of
precincts in Miami County have at least a 5% discrepancy between the number
of voters who voted and the official certified number of votes." He also
noted that there were two precincts that were off by more than 100 votes.


j.. In Miami County, both the chair and the director of the BOE admitted
that the recount matched the official vote count only because they didn't
use the certified results, but simply counted the ballots in the precinct
and ran them through the tabulator. This is a valid tabulator test, but not
a legally valid recount, since there's no benchmark.


k.. Also in Miami County, Diane L. Miley, the BOE's former Deputy Director
said the Director allowed "Republican friends" and "high school students to
take ballots out to the polls on Election Day." Miley also says ten or more
Republicans were allowed into the BOE on the evening of Election Day, when
votes were being counted, which she says made her "incredibly
uncomfortable." But in going public with her assertions, Miley says she was
"abandoned by the Dems . . . when I stood up [to the Republicans] at the
Board of Elections."


l.. In Warren County, punch card ballots were also shifted from precinct
to precinct, which again, due to ballot rotations, could have reversed the
intent of thousands of voters. Warren County was also key to the Bush margin
of victory. Its BOE declared an unexplained Homeland Security alert when the
polls closed, and the county's ballots were diverted to an unauthorized
warehouse, amidst a media blackout. Bush emerged from the county with a very
large margin over John Kerry. Warren County also used a chad scraping crew.

It's also good that when FDR chose to ignore the precedent in the 1940s,
at least Congress was wise enough to codify it into the Constitution.

No, that was a bad idea. Clinton would have served the US much better for
a
third term and was widely reported to be very fixated on terrorism (which
may have saved lives and billions).

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Had the Congress not enacted the two-term rule, Clinton might never
have been elected to the presidency.

True, but that's the will of the voters.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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And yet the Israelis get what they need done in a far more competent
manner
with only a few errors.

What does that have to do with clandestine work to which you're not
privy?

What do you have to do with intelligent discussion?

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Gordon wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


John Fields wrote:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote:
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it
would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose.

Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a
disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or
destroy western society or convert every one or...
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"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to
convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by
Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam.

Refusal to convert would result in death.
Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ?

Graham

Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated
in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example;

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Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their
heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the
rest make fast the fetters.

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For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized
Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim
religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and
acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel.

Gordon

Then how do you account for Iran having the second highest Jewish
population in the ME? According to your theory they should all be
Muslims or dead by now.

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Dirk

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[John Fields]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:12:39 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Yes, and what details were left of out the other anecdote that hide the
"whole story"? Once you start to see the actual details, you can
understand rather than simply label and refuse to understand. I'm not
saying the other incident wasn't a case of racism, it may well have
been...I'm just saying that the anecdote, as written, did not "prove" that
racism is rampant in the US, as the poster appeared to intend.

List some other countries where a man of one race was murdered men of
another by being dragged to death behind a truck.

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Why? Is racism only involved when someone is killed by being
dragged behind a truck and decapitated?

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Google ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and all the racist terms you can
think of for a clue.

All that incident in Jasper, Texas, proved was that three racist
whites killed a black man.

Two of them were sentenced to death by lethal injection, and the
third was sentenced to life.

If this was a racist society they would all have gotten off with a
year or so, if that.

Not that we don't still have problems, but we're working on it.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer