Jamming Circuit - For Soliders in Iraq

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Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

-Jeffk
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:50:43 -0600, "Jef" <jtkremer@yahoo.com> wrote:

Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

-Jeffk
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I think they're using cell phones.

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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:50:43 -0600, "Jef" <jtkremer@yahoo.com> wrote:

Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

-Jeffk


I think they're using cell phones.
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In that case they don't need a jammer, they need a cellular base
station transmitter and receiver connected to a computer set up to dial
every available phone number, and mount the system in at least two of
the trucks in every convoy.


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Michael A. Terrell
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In news:3FE1F694.76EAA77@earthlink.net,
Michael A. Terrell typed:
In that case they don't need a jammer, they need a cellular base
station transmitter and receiver connected to a computer set up to
dial every available phone number, and mount the system in at least
two of
the trucks in every convoy.
Click to expand...
When I helped set up temporary phones for construction workers at ground
zero I learned they have a name for little cell sites mounted on
open-frame trailers: COW (Cellular On Wheels).

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In article <brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net>, jtkremer@yahoo.com
mentioned...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?
Click to expand...
Shoot and ask questions later. ;-)

Reminds me of Gimli in LOTR Return of the King: "Going into battle
with .. impossible odds -- what're we waiting for!?!"

Without an idea of what the freq band is, it's nearly impossible to
determine how to reliably jam it or explode it. Could be they're
using some simple things like a garage door remote and receiver. In
any case, I think the military has a a lot better idea of how to do
this than civilians do. After all, warfare is their business.

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command. That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.

-Jeffk
Click to expand...
Sort of like "teach a man to fish.."

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"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:
In article <brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net>, jtkremer@yahoo.com
mentioned...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

Shoot and ask questions later. ;-)

Reminds me of Gimli in LOTR Return of the King: "Going into battle
with .. impossible odds -- what're we waiting for!?!"

Without an idea of what the freq band is, it's nearly impossible to
determine how to reliably jam it or explode it. Could be they're
using some simple things like a garage door remote and receiver. In
any case, I think the military has a a lot better idea of how to do
this than civilians do. After all, warfare is their business.

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command. That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.

-Jeffk

Sort of like "teach a man to fish.."
Click to expand...
If the soldiers are lucky, they might detonate a bomb before the
enemy gets away from the location.


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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:11:17 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, Dark
Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> Gave us:

In article <brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net>, jtkremer@yahoo.com
mentioned...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

Shoot and ask questions later. ;-)

Reminds me of Gimli in LOTR Return of the King: "Going into battle
with .. impossible odds -- what're we waiting for!?!"

Without an idea of what the freq band is, it's nearly impossible to
determine how to reliably jam it or explode it. Could be they're
using some simple things like a garage door remote and receiver. In
any case, I think the military has a a lot better idea of how to do
this than civilians do. After all, warfare is their business.

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command. That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.

-Jeffk

Sort of like "teach a man to fish.."
Click to expand...
For a couple of years now, I have been suggesting hardened tunnels
at the entry ports to israel, fore the walk ins.

The tunnels have top vents and big slabs that fall in place in front
of, and behind a suspect, then the chamber gets flooded with RF, and
EMP pulses. The doors are actuated by bomb sniffers.
 
Seems that with all the available technology already in use by the British
and American military they would have conceived of trying this already. BTW
how do you defuse some stupid #@%^%&@ holding a grenade pin?? Suicide
Bombers are the initiating device of these bombs.
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:11:17 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, Dark
Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> Gave us:

In article <brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net>, jtkremer@yahoo.com
mentioned...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in
iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

Shoot and ask questions later. ;-)

Reminds me of Gimli in LOTR Return of the King: "Going into battle
with .. impossible odds -- what're we waiting for!?!"

Without an idea of what the freq band is, it's nearly impossible to
determine how to reliably jam it or explode it. Could be they're
using some simple things like a garage door remote and receiver. In
any case, I think the military has a a lot better idea of how to do
this than civilians do. After all, warfare is their business.

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command. That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.

-Jeffk

Sort of like "teach a man to fish.."

For a couple of years now, I have been suggesting hardened tunnels
at the entry ports to israel, fore the walk ins.

The tunnels have top vents and big slabs that fall in place in front
of, and behind a suspect, then the chamber gets flooded with RF, and
EMP pulses. The doors are actuated by bomb sniffers.
Click to expand...
 
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

< snip >

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command.
Click to expand...
Or maybe the reason for it ?

That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.
Click to expand...
Sensible thinking. 1st time I've seen a US citizen ( I assume) realise that.


Regds, Graham
 
Art wrote:
Seems that with all the available technology already in use by the British
and American military they would have conceived of trying this already. BTW
how do you defuse some stupid #@%^%&@ holding a grenade pin?? Suicide
Bombers are the initiating device of these bombs.
Click to expand...
A number of the bombs plated in Iraq were found to have been
triggered by a cell phone, ot other modified receiver.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
In article <3FE24427.FDC1FB21@earthlink.net>,
mike.terrell@earthlink.net mentioned...
"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

In article <brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net>, jtkremer@yahoo.com
mentioned...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

Shoot and ask questions later. ;-)

Reminds me of Gimli in LOTR Return of the King: "Going into battle
with .. impossible odds -- what're we waiting for!?!"

Without an idea of what the freq band is, it's nearly impossible to
determine how to reliably jam it or explode it. Could be they're
using some simple things like a garage door remote and receiver. In
any case, I think the military has a a lot better idea of how to do
this than civilians do. After all, warfare is their business.

Oh, one other thing. I would think that instead of trying to detonate
or jam the bomb, it would be wiser to locate the source of the
detonation command. That way, instead of eliminating the bomb, you
eliminate the source of the bombs.

-Jeffk

Sort of like "teach a man to fish.."

If the soldiers are lucky, they might detonate a bomb before the
enemy gets away from the location.
Click to expand...
Good point. Of course the Darwin effect applies here; if they're that
dumb, they will eliminate themselves from the gene pool. I know from
experience (I was a Reaction Research Society member), that any such
circuit should incorporate a timer that will allow the person arming
it a few minutes to leave the area before it arms. That way, if
something goes wrong with the trigger system, it wouldn't harm anyone.


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here ya go................

http://slate.msn.com/id/2092059


Jef wrote:
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

-Jeffk
Click to expand...
 
"Stuuder" <stuuder@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: here ya go................
:
: http://slate.msn.com/id/2092059
:
One thing they missed is a method of sending
a signal thru all cell-phones in a 10-20 foot
area which would cause a light high frequency
whistle or hum thru their ear piece just under
the decibel range of the call being received.
Not enough to jamb the call, but to be so annoying
that they will, after a few experiences, not attempt
to make or accept calls inside a building where
other's are annoyed by a person talking near them.
I get so annoyed when I'm trying to speak to the
checker at the grocery store, and the person behind
me is yakking to their kid about something that could
more than likely wait until they return home.

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:30:09 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
<tdnews01@att.net.invalid> wrote:

In news:3FE1F694.76EAA77@earthlink.net,
Michael A. Terrell typed:

In that case they don't need a jammer, they need a cellular base
station transmitter and receiver connected to a computer set up to
dial every available phone number, and mount the system in at least
two of
the trucks in every convoy.

When I helped set up temporary phones for construction workers at ground
zero I learned they have a name for little cell sites mounted on
open-frame trailers: COW (Cellular On Wheels).
Click to expand...
Or perhaps CCOW. Cellular Cell On Wheels :)

In a recent documentary on the Discovery Channel
these "cows" were spelled CCOWs.

Telefan.
 
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:52:57 GMT, "Michael A.
Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Art wrote:

Seems that with all the available technology already in use by the British
and American military they would have conceived of trying this already. BTW
how do you defuse some stupid #@%^%&@ holding a grenade pin?? Suicide
Bombers are the initiating device of these bombs.
Click to expand...
Perhaps one should cook them
in a fraction of a second?
Try a huge microwave oven on
these individuals and they "freeze"
instantly. (just a guess).
Make them "well done" or more
so they will hold onto the grenade
pin.

A number of the bombs plated in Iraq were found to have been
triggered by a cell phone, ot other modified receiver.
Click to expand...
Telefan
 
In news:47n6uvsp0oaomellb27caohljo30h0io4t@4ax.com,
Telefan typed:
Or perhaps CCOW. Cellular Cell On Wheels :)

In a recent documentary on the Discovery Channel
these "cows" were spelled CCOWs.
Click to expand...
But that's not as much fun. People said "cow" so I'll go with that.


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: In news:47n6uvsp0oaomellb27caohljo30h0io4t@4ax.com,
: Telefan typed:
: >
: > Or perhaps CCOW. Cellular Cell On Wheels :)
: >
: > In a recent documentary on the Discovery Channel
: > these "cows" were spelled CCOWs.
:
: But that's not as much fun. People said "cow" so I'll go with
that.

Aren't COW considered sacred in the Mid-East? ;-)

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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Its true there is not much you can do
to stop a suicide bomber, but if they can block any radio frequency remote
bombs it might save a few lives.

True the ultimate solution to remote bombs is to get out of Iraq, or at
least get Iraq's to police Iraq's. Hopefully some day "the powers that be"
will stop messing with the middle east - and let them live how they want to
live.

-jeff


"Jef" <jtkremer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:brspec$7rf$1@news.astound.net...
Is anyone aware of a commercial device i could send to some troops in iraq
to block those road side remote controlled bombs? Or even a device to
explode them ahead of the troop vechicles.

I dont have any details on the frequencies in use, what are your
suggestions?

-Jeffk
Click to expand...
 
Jef wrote:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Its true there is not much you can do
to stop a suicide bomber, but if they can block any radio frequency remote
bombs it might save a few lives.

True the ultimate solution to remote bombs is to get out of Iraq, or at
least get Iraq's to police Iraq's. Hopefully some day "the powers that be"
will stop messing with the middle east - and let them live how they want to
live.

-jeff

The problem is, the way they want to live is to be active killing us.
Click to expand...

Bill K7NOM
 
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Bill Garber typed:
"Tom Del Rosso" <tdnews01@att.net.invalid> wrote in message
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In news:47n6uvsp0oaomellb27caohljo30h0io4t@4ax.com,
Telefan typed:

Or perhaps CCOW. Cellular Cell On Wheels :)

In a recent documentary on the Discovery Channel
these "cows" were spelled CCOWs.

But that's not as much fun. People said "cow" so I'll go with that.

Aren't COW considered sacred in the Mid-East? ;-)
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Farther to the east they are, but not by Muslims! You might be thinking
of the incident that was triggered when British colonial forces issued
ammo to their Indian soldiers that was lubricated with pig and cow fat.
The soldiers were Hindu and Muslim, and to one the cow is sacred, and to
the other the pig is dirty, so it caused a bit of a rebellion.


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