I've dumped Linux and moved to Windows XP.

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Terry Porter

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Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
 
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The fake Terry Porter (flatfish) wrote:

Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
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This is all very fine. You are deluding cola with your drivel

And you aren't Terry Porter, flatfish
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You're genuinely bogus.
 
Terry Porter wrote:
Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
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Couldn't find anything better than Protel for Linux, eh? Isn't there a
unix version of Protel?
 
"Terry Porter" <terrry_porter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
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Windows isn't superior by a long shot. There are snazzier apps
available for the Doze platform, but that's because they can
sell those apps for lots of money, and pay programmers to do
sexy GUIs.

But that doesn't make Windows a "far superior" operating system.
Far from it. It shows it's an adequate operating system for some
GUI-intensive apps.

But for security, robustness, and maintainability, Linux beats
it by orders of magnitude.

Cheers!
Rich
 
Rich Grise wrote:

Windows isn't superior by a long shot.
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It is if you're not using it.

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What I hear you saying is that Windows has more and superior applications to
Linux, not that the Windows OS itself is superior to Linux. In this I
heartily
agree. The ECAD programs available for Windows are much better.

Regards,
JeffS

"Terry Porter" &lt;terrry_porter@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
news:4a77b8e8.0405231915.6675f43e@posting.google.com...
Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
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terrry_porter@yahoo.com (Terry Porter) wrote in message news:&lt;4a77b8e8.0405231915.6675f43e@posting.google.com&gt;...
Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
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Welcome back home Terry!


Peter Bilt
Born in the USA!
 
JeffM &lt;jeffm_@email.com&gt; wrote:
The ECAD programs available for Windows are much better.
JeffS

How many have failed to run under WINE for you?
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Oh come on... if his primary application runs best under XP, I'd suggest
he'd be better off running XP and Linux in a Virtual PC window rather than
Linux and Windows in a WINE window. :)
 
On Mon, 24 May 2004 09:38:49 GMT, "Rich Grise" &lt;null@example.net&gt;
wrote:

"Terry Porter" &lt;terrry_porter@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
news:4a77b8e8.0405231915.6675f43e@posting.google.com...
Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter

Windows isn't superior by a long shot. There are snazzier apps
available for the Doze platform, but that's because they can
sell those apps for lots of money, and pay programmers to do
sexy GUIs.

But that doesn't make Windows a "far superior" operating system.
Far from it. It shows it's an adequate operating system for some
GUI-intensive apps.

But for security, robustness, and maintainability, Linux beats
it by orders of magnitude.
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Without jumping on the linux v win bandwagon again. Both are good and
both are bad (not all entirely on the reasons provided by MR Rich
Grise) and both have problems. Do what I do and run both. The only
reason I predominantly use win is that is what the customers want,
plus that is what is installed on my laptop which I use most.
 
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JeffM &lt;jeffm_@email.com&gt; wrote:
The ECAD programs available for Windows are much better.
JeffS

How many have failed to run under WINE for you?

Oh come on... if his primary application runs best under XP, I'd suggest
he'd be better off running XP and Linux in a Virtual PC window rather than
Linux and Windows in a WINE window. :)
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http://bochs.sourceforge.net for an free implementation of a "PC emulator". but
it's slow as frozen shit. I have tried to run Windows inside it (running on a
Slackware Linux) but gave up.

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"Terry Porter" &lt;terrry_porter@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
| Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
| I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
| honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
| and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
| Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
| Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
| compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
| Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
| Terry Porter

I agree with this post .

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"DarthGates" &lt;DarthGates@Msn.Com&gt; wrote in message
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"Terry Porter" &lt;terrry_porter@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
| Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
| I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
| honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
| and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
| Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
| Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
| compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
| Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
| Terry Porter

I agree with this post .
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Keep reading.
 
On Wed, 26 May 2004 16:58:27 -0400, "DarthGates" &lt;DarthGates@Msn.Com&gt;
wrote:

"Terry Porter" &lt;terrry_porter@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message
| Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
| I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
| honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
| and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
| Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
| Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
| compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
| Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
| Terry Porter

I agree with this post .

The Linux community in a way does not care a hoot who uses Linux,
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although it is nice to know that more and more people are using it.
If people want to use it, then fine. If people reckon it is not up to
the task in hand - then fine.

If corporations are concerned about the GPL compromising Linux based
software developments, then Microsoft, Sun and SCO have alternative
operating systems on which they can build their applications.

Everyone is welcome to play in the Linux sandpit as long as they abide
by the rules ie the GPL. People are getting jealous because the
players in that sandpit have created some very nice and valuable toys.
Bill can only look in envy from his MS sandpit as he is scared stiff
of people leaving his sandpit not to mention his casting covetous eyes
at the toys in the Linux sandpit.
 
"Peter" &lt;peterwn@parazzdise.net.nz&gt; wrote in message
Everyone is welcome to play in the Linux sandpit as long as they abide
by the rules ie the GPL. People are getting jealous because the
players in that sandpit have created some very nice and valuable toys.
Bill can only look in envy from his MS sandpit as he is scared stiff
of people leaving his sandpit not to mention his casting covetous eyes
at the toys in the Linux sandpit.
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Billy is terrified that if enough people change sandpits then the
money fountain will dry up, and he'll go broke and have to beg in
the streets.

Cheers!
Rich
 
Rich Grise wrote:

"Peter" &lt;peterwn@parazzdise.net.nz&gt; wrote in message

Everyone is welcome to play in the Linux sandpit as long as they abide
by the rules ie the GPL. People are getting jealous because the
players in that sandpit have created some very nice and valuable toys.
Bill can only look in envy from his MS sandpit as he is scared stiff
of people leaving his sandpit not to mention his casting covetous eyes
at the toys in the Linux sandpit.


Billy is terrified that if enough people change sandpits then the
money fountain will dry up, and he'll go broke and have to beg in
the streets.
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I can see Bill now in downtown Seattle...

People dining in streetside cafes...

Bill, still ticked at going bankrupt and like all the other bums on the
street, decides to pee on the window where the diners are.

And that has happened already.
 
"GreyCloud" &lt;mist@cumulus.com&gt; wrote in message |
|
| Rich Grise wrote:
|
| &gt; "Peter" &lt;peterwn@parazzdise.net.nz&gt; wrote in message
| &gt;
| &gt;&gt;Everyone is welcome to play in the Linux sandpit as long as they abide
| &gt;&gt;by the rules ie the GPL. People are getting jealous because the
| &gt;&gt;players in that sandpit have created some very nice and valuable toys.
| &gt;&gt;Bill can only look in envy from his MS sandpit as he is scared stiff
| &gt;&gt;of people leaving his sandpit not to mention his casting covetous eyes
| &gt;&gt;at the toys in the Linux sandpit.
| &gt;
| &gt;
| &gt; Billy is terrified that if enough people change sandpits then the
| &gt; money fountain will dry up, and he'll go broke and have to beg in
| &gt; the streets.
| &gt;
|
| I can see Bill now in downtown Seattle...

So You are psyche now, Umm winning lotto numder`s for next week draw?

|
| People dining in streetside cafes...
|
| Bill, still ticked at going bankrupt and like all the other bums on the
| street, decides to pee on the window where the diners are.
|
| And that has happened already.
|

Where is Your proof of that ?
Do You even have a point to make here, if so what is it ?

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DarthGates wrote:

"GreyCloud" &lt;mist@cumulus.com&gt; wrote in message |
|
| Rich Grise wrote:
|
| &gt; "Peter" &lt;peterwn@parazzdise.net.nz&gt; wrote in message
|
| &gt;&gt;Everyone is welcome to play in the Linux sandpit as long as they abide
| &gt;&gt;by the rules ie the GPL. People are getting jealous because the
| &gt;&gt;players in that sandpit have created some very nice and valuable toys.
| &gt;&gt;Bill can only look in envy from his MS sandpit as he is scared stiff
| &gt;&gt;of people leaving his sandpit not to mention his casting covetous eyes
| &gt;&gt;at the toys in the Linux sandpit.
|
|
| &gt; Billy is terrified that if enough people change sandpits then the
| &gt; money fountain will dry up, and he'll go broke and have to beg in
| &gt; the streets.
|
|
| I can see Bill now in downtown Seattle...

So You are psyche now, Umm winning lotto numder`s for next week draw?

|
| People dining in streetside cafes...
|
| Bill, still ticked at going bankrupt and like all the other bums on the
| street, decides to pee on the window where the diners are.
|
| And that has happened already.
|

Where is Your proof of that ?
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Go to a diner on a first ave. Seattle and find out for yourself.

Do You even have a point to make here, if so what is it ?

More of a point than you'll ever make.
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On 23 May 2004 20:15:26 -0700, terrry_porter@yahoo.com (Terry Porter)
wrote:

Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
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You have come to find what so many know, only you have it slightly
wrong, what makes XP a superior operating system than Linux is not the
operating system itself, it is your application needs.

There is no doubt that for the average Jane/Joe that Windows OS's are
likely to offer far more bang for the buck, far more flexibility, more
software selection, and far superior and more polished applications.
The obvious reason is the market share, if you want to get rich are
you going to write to Linux or Windows? For most that will turn out to
be Windows.

With that market share, few vendors can afford to ignore it, and most
can afford to get the better programmers and spend more on the user
interface and innovative enhancements.

Finally, as entrapping as the high level of integration of Windows and
Windows applications is to keep windows people in windows, it is also
just exactly what we want. Who wants to go through all kinds crap
using different programs together, sharing their output and features.

As far as stability, as a desktop (not server), it's all what you are
willing to put in to it, Linux, Solaris/SunOS folks put in a hell of a
lot of time and use a lot of tools to keep things clean, they also
tend to be far more computer savvy than the average windows user.

If you learn some basic Windows internals, buy the right tools, follow
sound protocols in loading and removing software, Window is very
stable for most users. I fall in the middle, take routine backups,
keep my windows, drivers, and software current, use a 3rd party
removal tool for ensuring stuff I test and remove is fully removed,
and tools to scan and keep the registry and system clean. Maybe 2
hours a month maintenance, not counting the actual backup time which
happens while I am asleep. (Tools like TweakUI, Process Explorer,
SystemWorks, RegClean, ZoneAlarm, NortonAV, AdAware, SpyBot, MS
Control Panel Tools (XP), and a few other 3rd party tools..)

Linux is great alternative to Solaris and in some cases, Win Servers,
but I doubt it will ever win over the desktop, unless MS gets lazy.
Win servers are going to be a tough nut to crack also because of the
integration advantages Windows gives when you go all Win, in Total
Cost of Ownership (TOC) for the corporate world.

Which is a "better" OS depends on the application(s), not the quality
of the OS code written, or the perception of it, if that was the case
Apple would still rule the PC market. By example, IBM OS/400 makes
Solaris, Linux, and Win-All look all look like buggy amateur garbage
that would not qualify for Alpha-Code status, but that does not make
OS/400 a "better" OS, unless you happen to need a mainframe class OS
for your application.

The best OS is the one that serves your application and use needs the
best, this is why Win is the hands down winner of the desktop.
 
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