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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!

Arfa
 
"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!
Click to expand...
Maybe the "trick" of it is an assembly method that saved money with no
intention of anyone ever repairing it. Have seen that myself, BTW.
 
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!

Maybe the "trick" of it is an assembly method that saved money with no
intention of anyone ever repairing it. Have seen that myself, BTW.
Click to expand...
Yes, I too have seen that, but in this case, it seems rather too 'good' an
item, and generally too well made for that to be the case. I understand that
it is quite an expensive 'designer-lifestyle' radio. Looks like the sort of
thing you would find for sale in a John Lewis store. Take a look at it
here ---

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genus-Type-R-Digital-Walnut/dp/B000OBYQGO

I don't know where it is actually made, but it has, moulded into the back,
"Designed in London" and a Union flag. It is a very 'solid' unit with
genuine walnut side panels, and a very elegant touch control system on the
top panel. The only visible screws are four in the bottom, which release a
metal plate which covers a totally empty (other than a fixed multiway
connector) metal compartment for a specialist sized rechargeable battery
(not fitted) and two screws which secure the carrying handle to damped
rotating bosses set in the wooden side panels. There is no indication that
these bosses are any kind of removable screw or other fixing, as you used to
find with the old Hackers. They appear to be solidly fixed into the wooden
side panels.

There is a sculpted foam front speaker cover, which occupies the whole
front, but an experiment with a knife blade inserted under one corner, in
case ir clipped or velcro'd off, resulted only in that 'tearing glue' sound
that you get when something really is glued. The back panel is covered with
a glued on leatherette type plastic. Running a finger over its entire
surface, reveals not the slightest sign of there being anything other than a
flat metal plate under it.

A knife inserted in every crack and slid back and forth, reveals no obvious
clips. Twisting produces no perceivable movement to reveal unseen anchor
points. I'm stumped !

Arfa
 
Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Click to expand...

I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/
 
It is a bit of a mystery:

http://www.retrothing.com/2006/08/beautiful_genus.html

Found other sites/links and tried to open the "Genus" website and they
appear to have gone away.

It might have been a company based in India that has gone defunct or
morphed.
 
maybe this one off my repair briefs

Roberts R727 radio 1989
Undo base and push down the handle to release
and expose 2 bolts

does that make any sense?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/
 
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice
simple (I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and
twisty pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing
cracks and gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure
the trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa




I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment
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I'd second this, have you tried removing the handle?



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Arfa Daily wrote:
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!
Maybe the "trick" of it is an assembly method that saved money with no
intention of anyone ever repairing it. Have seen that myself, BTW.


Yes, I too have seen that, but in this case, it seems rather too 'good' an
item, and generally too well made for that to be the case. I understand that
it is quite an expensive 'designer-lifestyle' radio. Looks like the sort of
thing you would find for sale in a John Lewis store. Take a look at it
here ---

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genus-Type-R-Digital-Walnut/dp/B000OBYQGO

I don't know where it is actually made, but it has, moulded into the back,
"Designed in London" and a Union flag. It is a very 'solid' unit with
genuine walnut side panels, and a very elegant touch control system on the
top panel. The only visible screws are four in the bottom, which release a
metal plate which covers a totally empty (other than a fixed multiway
connector) metal compartment for a specialist sized rechargeable battery
(not fitted) and two screws which secure the carrying handle to damped
rotating bosses set in the wooden side panels. There is no indication that
these bosses are any kind of removable screw or other fixing, as you used to
find with the old Hackers. They appear to be solidly fixed into the wooden
side panels.

There is a sculpted foam front speaker cover, which occupies the whole
front, but an experiment with a knife blade inserted under one corner, in
case ir clipped or velcro'd off, resulted only in that 'tearing glue' sound
that you get when something really is glued. The back panel is covered with
a glued on leatherette type plastic. Running a finger over its entire
surface, reveals not the slightest sign of there being anything other than a
flat metal plate under it.

A knife inserted in every crack and slid back and forth, reveals no obvious
clips. Twisting produces no perceivable movement to reveal unseen anchor
points. I'm stumped !

Arfa


If it was a piece of test gear, I would guess you would remove the
Click to expand...
handle and slide off the side panels to reveal the screws holding the
rest of it together.
JC
 
Arfa Daily wrote:
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!

Arfa


Arfa..... years ago I saw a very similar looking radio by Braun. I
Click to expand...
noticed that the pins in the handle rotated with the handle.
Pulled out on the handle at the pivot point.
Afer handle off, the guts slid out of the frame.

Regards
Lee
 
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice
simple (I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and
twisty pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing
cracks and gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure
the trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa



I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment




I'd second this, have you tried removing the handle?



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Its on Youtube.......nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLC9sE747xI
Click to expand...
 
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice
simple (I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and
twisty pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing
cracks and gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure
the trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa




I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment




I'd second this, have you tried removing the handle?
Click to expand...
Yes, as I previously said ... :) And yes, I'm familiar with the practice
of securing the innards via handle fixing screws, but as I explained
earlier, the handle fixings are damped rotating bosses, to which the handle
is screwed. These bosses appear to be a tight press fit or some such in the
wooden side panels. There is no visible method of releasing them, and the
very small amount of the outer non-rotating part which is proud of the wood
surface, is completely smooth.

Arfa
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice
simple (I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and
twisty pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing
cracks and gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure
the trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa



I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment




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Its on Youtube.......nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLC9sE747xI
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Yes. I too found this. Shame it doesn't show you how to get it to bits ...

Arfa
 
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Arfa..... years ago I saw a very similar looking radio by Braun. I
noticed that the pins in the handle rotated with the handle.
Pulled out on the handle at the pivot point.
Afer handle off, the guts slid out of the frame.

Regards
Lee
Click to expand...
Yes Lee. I too have seen all manner of similar arrangements. Unfortunately,
that doesn't seem to be the trick to this one. I really honestly have tried
everything that many many years of service work at the sharp end has taught
me about getting into stuff, but this one is a total mystery. I even took it
back to the shop that took in the repair, today, and let their two lads have
a go, but neither of them could get into it either. I'm sure if we ever find
out, it will be something really simple, but for the moment, simple or not,
it's all a bit Penn and Teller ... >:-\

Arfa
 
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"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice
simple (I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and
twisty pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing
cracks and gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure
the trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa




I've seen similar in that you have to remove the handle to release the
innards, I forget the make for the moment




I'd second this, have you tried removing the handle?

Yes, as I previously said ... :) And yes, I'm familiar with the
practice
of securing the innards via handle fixing screws, but as I explained
earlier, the handle fixings are damped rotating bosses, to which the
handle
is screwed. These bosses appear to be a tight press fit or some such in
the
wooden side panels. There is no visible method of releasing them, and the
very small amount of the outer non-rotating part which is proud of the
wood
surface, is completely smooth.

Arfa



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Warming up and removing label with hot air ?
Thin steel blade, slid in any crack, to release internal catches like a lot
of computer stuff ?
After that its find a weak point/edge that can later be disguised. The only
time I did that, for some effects unit, I had told the owner beforehand and
he supplied me with a "Keep music live" sticker to go over the damage.


--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/
 
I suspect Arfa's assumption that this unit was designed to snap together is
correct.

Is there a local dentist who'd be willing to take a few X-rays along the
edges? (A shame shoe stores no longer have X-ray machines!)

One other possibility... Is it possible the back is to be pushed inward and
pulled down?
 
Arfa Daily wrote:
"Lee" <glog@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Arfa..... years ago I saw a very similar looking radio by Braun. I
noticed that the pins in the handle rotated with the handle.
Pulled out on the handle at the pivot point.
Afer handle off, the guts slid out of the frame.

Regards
Lee

Yes Lee. I too have seen all manner of similar arrangements. Unfortunately,
that doesn't seem to be the trick to this one. I really honestly have tried
everything that many many years of service work at the sharp end has taught
me about getting into stuff, but this one is a total mystery. I even took it
back to the shop that took in the repair, today, and let their two lads have
a go, but neither of them could get into it either. I'm sure if we ever find
out, it will be something really simple, but for the moment, simple or not,
it's all a bit Penn and Teller ... >:-\

Arfa


Chain saw then you know next time
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:23:14 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com>wrote:

Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Click to expand...
Jigsaw.
 
"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:DZJ9l.61438$iW1.57557@newsfe23.ams2...
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple (I
think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and gaps
with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as I've
probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the trick of
it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Click to expand...
Try this method......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zbs1GRAnVto

George.
 
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Arfa Daily wrote:
"Lee" <glog@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa
Arfa..... years ago I saw a very similar looking radio by Braun. I
noticed that the pins in the handle rotated with the handle.
Pulled out on the handle at the pivot point.
Afer handle off, the guts slid out of the frame.

Regards
Lee

Yes Lee. I too have seen all manner of similar arrangements.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the trick to this one. I really
honestly have tried everything that many many years of service work at
the sharp end has taught me about getting into stuff, but this one is a
total mystery. I even took it back to the shop that took in the repair,
today, and let their two lads have a go, but neither of them could get
into it either. I'm sure if we ever find out, it will be something really
simple, but for the moment, simple or not, it's all a bit Penn and Teller
... >:-\

Arfa
Chain saw then you know next time
Click to expand...
LOL !!

Arfa
 
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:DZJ9l.61438$iW1.57557@newsfe23.ams2...
Genus Type R portable DAB radio. Nice elegant looking unit. Nice simple
(I think) problem, but how the F#@! does it come to bits ????

35 years daily experience of finding hidden screws and clips and twisty
pressure points, but nearly an hour of probing and testing cracks and
gaps with knife blades, I'm still no nearer.

So does anyone actually know ? Not really looking for suggestions, as
I've probably tried them all anyway. Just if anyone knows for sure the
trick of it, please share ... !!

Arfa


Try this method......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zbs1GRAnVto

George.
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Yep ! That'd work. Perhaps I should refer the owner to that clip, and ask
him if it's ok to proceed in that manner ... d;~}

Arfa
 
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