ISE 5.2 to 6.1

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colin hankins

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I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1. Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?

Regards,
Colin
 
"colin hankins" <colinhankins@cox.net> wrote in message news:<kzCrb.14571$Zb7.8816@fed1read01>...
I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1. Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?

Regards,
Colin
Hi,

I was using ISE5.1i. Now i moved to ISE6.1i

From timing perspective, ISE6.1i gives excellent timings compared to
ISE5.1i

Almost 7 Plus MHz improvement for the same constraint,Options and
ofcourse same design :)

Regards,
Muthu
 
Hi
I am facing the same problem. This uses more logic. I installed sp2
but no use. The too has to mature more
Rgd
Anjan
"colin hankins" <colinhankins@cox.net> wrote in message news:<kzCrb.14571$Zb7.8816@fed1read01>...
I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1. Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?

Regards,
Colin
 
Hi,
In my experience, when I have to move from a release to another of the ISE,
I prefer to create a new project and reuse only the vhdl file and the ucf
file.
Sometimes there are a strange incompatibility from the release that can
generate strange behaviour.

By
Giuseppe

"colin hankins" <colinhankins@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:kzCrb.14571$Zb7.8816@fed1read01...
I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1.
Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and
par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to
Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?

Regards,
Colin
 
Yes, there has been discussion on this group regarding this
"phenomenon." I have a design that lost about 10% in timing going to
6.1 and that was with heavy use of timing constraints and area
constraints. I ended up having to hand place individual LUTs (which
also means I lost many of the benefits of synthesis). I wasn't very
happy.

I've gone back to 5.2 on some of my projects. 6.1 on a few, but with
this kind of track record, I don't have much faith in 6.1. If it
ain't broke...

Jake


"colin hankins" <colinhankins@cox.net> wrote in message news:<kzCrb.14571$Zb7.8816@fed1read01>...
I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1. Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?

Regards,
Colin
 
"colin hankins" <colinhankins@cox.net> wrote in message
news:kzCrb.14571$Zb7.8816@fed1read01...
I installed ISE 6.1 with the service pack and my Spartan IIe design that
worked fine under 5.2 no longer works in the timing simulation in 6.1.
Also,
the number of Slices used increased by 10% as well as the TBUFS. I have
fiddled with almost every combination of options in the synth, map, and
par
to try and recreate the better results I had in ISE 5.2. I talked to
Xilinx
and they just told me to fiddle with the parameters some more. Has anyone
else had similar problems migrating a project from 5.2 to 6.1?
Even worse, I have fatal errors in synthesis of pipelined LUT multipliers
which worked fine in 5.2
Talked to Xilinx and got the same useless answer...

Hopefully, someone will stumble on a solution, or Xilinx will fix it in a
service pack. If not, we'll be stuck on 5.2 ;(
 
KD wrote:

Hopefully, someone will stumble on a solution, or Xilinx will fix it in a
service pack. If not, we'll be stuck on 5.2 ;(
I'd be happy to be stuck with 5.2 as I seem to be stuck with 4.2. Trying
to port a 4.2 design to 5.1, 5.2, and 6.1 results in failure. The
failure occurs attempting to synthesize the simple top level schematic.

Marc
 

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