Inventing Is No Longer Optional

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Bret Cahill

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Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill
 
On Feb 3, 11:23 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill
And your patent numbers are?

Come on. You were fishing for this question weren't you?

--Mike Jr.
 
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:23:20 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill
Apparently making sense is still optional.

John
 
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

And your patent numbers are?
Give me a couple months.

Come on.  You were fishing for this question weren't you?

--Mike Jr.
I'm casting the largest net possible.


Bret Cahill
 
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

Apparently making sense is still optional.
Five or 6 years ago some woman on BBC explained the new reality:

"Anything less than genius just won't do."


Bret Cahill


"Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the horizon?"

-- Nietzsche
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill


One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries. Ended up
with zero patents when I retired. Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value. On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers. Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.
 
"Don Stauffer" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in message
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Bret Cahill wrote:
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill


One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries. Ended up
with zero patents when I retired. Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value. On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers. Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.
I can relate to that. I worked for the Navy and the CIA on various
clandestine "gadgets" over the years none of which ever got patented. I have
one, count 'em, one patent to my name and that was for a capacitive coupling
device that to me seemed totally obvious and unworthy of a patent. You might
say I reinvented the capacitor! Yet the patent office granted a patent on
it. Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims. There
are several perpetual motion patents as ridiculous as that is. There is no
requirement that a patent works.
 
On Feb 4, 7:40 am, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Don Stauffer" <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote in message

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Bret Cahill wrote:
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries.  Ended up
with zero patents when I retired.  Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value.  On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers.  Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.

I can relate to that. I worked for the Navy and the CIA on various
clandestine "gadgets" over the years none of which ever got patented. I have
one, count 'em, one patent to my name and that was for a capacitive coupling
device that to me seemed totally obvious and unworthy of a patent. You might
say I reinvented the capacitor! Yet the patent office granted a patent on
it. Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims. There
are several perpetual motion patents as ridiculous as that is. There is no
requirement that a patent works.
I can top that. I have a patent for the achromatic doublet. True it
is for a specific application and included new ideas, but it's still
an achromatic doublet.

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=2323679&KC=&FT=E

www.richardfisher.com
 
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries.  Ended up
with zero patents when I retired.  Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value.  On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers.  Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.
Last year I tried to research the EE - authors of an old declassified
paper on technology on an idea that could be useful in the civilian
sector. All vanished without leaving any trace whatsoever on any
search engines.

Obviously a real researcher with $ could find everything about them
but it's sad when any moron can leave a trail when there are probably
a lot of really worthwhile people who are as forgotten as Gauss's
notes on FFT.

In any event everyone should make at least some attempt to become a
polymath.

That way you can always leave some footprint somewhere.


Bret Cahill
 
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

Apparently making sense is still optional.

Five or 6 years ago some woman on BBC explained the new reality:

"Anything less than genius just won't do."

   Then you should throw your computer in the trash, and learn to live
with your sub 70 ID10T quotient while learning basket weaving.
When you go to the supermarket put all the ice cream and chips you
ordinarily buy into your shopping cart as usual. Then go to the
produce section and buy collards.

Just before you get to the checkout put the icecream and chips on the
discretionary spending display stand.

They'll send a clerk to save the icecream before it melts.


Bret Cahill
 
Bob Eld wrote:
Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims.
It's not a bent piece of wire, you fool! It's an advanced
geosensor for detecting subterranean flows of water!
(Also useful for finding lost objects.)
 
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:23:20 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill
---
He fancies himself an inventor,
a lover of science, a mentor.
A seeker of truth,
but it's clear from his tooth,
that he's only an abject dissenter.


JF
 
Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.

Bret Cahill

One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries.  Ended up
with zero patents when I retired.  Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value.  On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers.  Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.

I can relate to that. I worked for the Navy and the CIA on various
clandestine "gadgets" over the years none of which ever got patented. I have
one, count 'em, one patent to my name and that was for a capacitive coupling
device that to me seemed totally obvious and unworthy of a patent. You might
say I reinvented the capacitor! Yet the patent office granted a patent on
it. Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims. There
are several perpetual motion patents as ridiculous as that is. There is no
requirement that a patent works.
There just isn't all that much of an intersection between justice and
the law. Still you need to _try_ to make it work.


Bret Cahill
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:23:20 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
numbers.

Inventing is no longer optional.


Bret Cahill

---
He fancies himself an inventor,
a lover of science, a mentor.
A seeker of truth,
but it's clear from his tooth,
that he's only an abject dissenter.
Yes, after enough out-venting, in-venting becomes necessary. Here is an
invention that addresses outventing:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5969272.html

BTW, here's mine:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4307345.html

I have designed better and more innovative devices since then. But it
usually doesn't really pay to patent ideas. The legal costs for my patent
were borne by the company I worked for, and they paid me a ceremonial $1
for it, although later they gave me a more substantial bonus.

Paul
 
Don Stauffer wrote:

One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries. Ended up
with zero patents when I retired.
The company I work for owns all my work-related ideas, but the patent
still has my name on as inventor (as distinct from owner).

Pete
 

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