If it aint broke.........

[martin griffith]

Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Since its another pagan induced holiday, I assume the IT guys at my
ISP are also on holiday.

My ADSL has been fine since the start of the holiday.

Coincidence?


martin


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[Genome]

"martin griffith" <martingriffith@XXyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gice41p98dob1k6vv3nd60n0249bsrmia7@4ax.com...

Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Since its another pagan induced holiday, I assume the IT guys at my
ISP are also on holiday.

My ADSL has been fine since the start of the holiday.

Coincidence?


martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

Look...... You moved to Spain.

DNA

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

martin griffith wrote:

Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Are you using DHCP? It could be a problem with your ISP renewing the
lease on the IP address every 6 hours. I don't know how to check the
DHCP lease status in XP, but there's probably something in the control
panel under networking that will tell this.

You might want to record the IP address assigned to your machine before
and after the connection drop. If its changed, its a DHCP lease problem.

Since its another pagan induced holiday, I assume the IT guys at my
ISP are also on holiday.

My ADSL has been fine since the start of the holiday.

By this, do you mean that the problem ceased its 6 hour cycle once the
IT folks went on holiday?

Coincidence?

Maybe. The ISP techs probably just get a thrill out of pushing the
'expire lease' button and listening to all the customers screaming.

;-)

martin

Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

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Into space that is quite economical.
But the good ones I've seen
So seldom are clean,
And the clean ones so seldom are comical.

 

[martin griffith]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:03:26 -0800, in sci.electronics.design "Paul
Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote:

martin griffith wrote:

Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Are you using DHCP? It could be a problem with your ISP renewing the
lease on the IP address every 6 hours. I don't know how to check the
DHCP lease status in XP, but there's probably something in the control
panel under networking that will tell this.
Yep DHCP, the "repair" button on XP tells me that it cannot renew the

IP add.

You might want to record the IP address assigned to your machine before
and after the connection drop. If its changed, its a DHCP lease problem.

Since its another pagan induced holiday, I assume the IT guys at my
ISP are also on holiday.

My ADSL has been fine since the start of the holiday.

By this, do you mean that the problem ceased its 6 hour cycle once the
IT folks went on holiday?

This is what I'm inferring
Coincidence?

Maybe. The ISP techs probably just get a thrill out of pushing the
'expire lease' button and listening to all the customers screaming.

B'tards. All I'm trying to do is download a few movies for next Xmas!
;-)

martin

Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

 

[martin griffith]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:25:12 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "Genome"
<ilike_spam@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

"martin griffith" <martingriffith@XXyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gice41p98dob1k6vv3nd60n0249bsrmia7@4ax.com...
Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Since its another pagan induced holiday, I assume the IT guys at my
ISP are also on holiday.

My ADSL has been fine since the start of the holiday.

Coincidence?


martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

Look...... You moved to Spain.

DNA

LOL... Its a bit of a shock to the system.

but its loads better than the UK IMHO.
But the Spanish attitude takes some getting used too.

Most of the tech suppliers have websites that are Stiil Under
Construction, after you get past the front page.

The spanish can build houses, but they can't design them ( i just
bought one at less than half the UK equivalent price.A 3 bed town
house for Ł65K. With stupendous views)

But my local computer supplier gives me 30% to 50% discount on loads
of stuff, because I dont call him out to fix things. And he gives me
"black software"

Health and safety.... they have stange concepts here.

Most excellent bars/cafes, tapas, wine. You walk down the street, say
"hola" to a stranger, they say "hola" back.

The infrastructure is rapidly improving (except the postal sysytem)




martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

 

[martin griffith]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:26 +0200, in sci.electronics.design martin
griffith <martingriffith@XXyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

snip

Maybe. The ISP techs probably just get a thrill out of pushing the
'expire lease' button and listening to all the customers screaming.
snip
10.45am, on the dot... total loss of adsl. The IT guys must have just

finished their moring tea/coffee break


martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

 

[martin griffith]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:47:03 -0500, in sci.electronics.design Mark
Jones <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote:

If that don't do it, see if this does any good:
1. Start --> run, type in "CMD".
2. "IPCONFIG /release"
3. "IPCONFIG /flushdns"
4. "IPCONFIG /renew"
5. "IPCONFIG /registerdns"
6. Reboot.

If it still doesn't work, you can try these. Warning - you should make a system
restore point first, as these are destructive procedures:
1. Start --> run, type in "CMD"
2. "netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt"
3. Reboot.

Netsh references:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/columns/cableguy/cg1101.asp
http://help.stargate.net/broadband/netsh.shtml

To reset your windows sockets, download and run the following:
4.
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/central/display/details.php3?installerID=127&nav=title
5. Reboot.

Try removing all network adapters from device manager and then reinstalling.
Here is a "trick" used to show defective drivers which otherwise would not be
displayed, not even with "show hidden" in the devmgr:

6. Start --> Run, CMD
7. Type the following lines exactly from the command prompt (misspelling won't
generate an error):

SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
START DEVMGMT.MSC

9. In the window that opens, Click View/Show all hidden devices. You may see
transparent icons under Network Adapters - remove all these (uninstall) along
with your modem NIC and reboot to allow windows to reinstall the correct driver.


Hope that helps.


-- "I could be labeled antisocial. But when you don't need to use anybody, why
talk to them?" MCJ 20050320
Hi Mark,

Thanks for the info, I'll have a bash (sorry). I've been to the MSN
help pages, and there is quite a lot there to catch up on, as well.

Just about to Amazon for "network admin for dummies"





martin


Opinions are like assholes -- everyone has one

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:26 +0200, martin griffith wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:03:26 -0800, in sci.electronics.design "Paul
Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote:

martin griffith wrote:

Being having problems with my ADSLwith a PC on XP, it would drop the
connection every 6 hours or so, usually bang on the hour. Needing a
reboot

Are you using DHCP? It could be a problem with your ISP renewing the
lease on the IP address every 6 hours. I don't know how to check the
DHCP lease status in XP, but there's probably something in the control
panel under networking that will tell this.
Yep DHCP, the "repair" button on XP tells me that it cannot renew the
IP add.

Go to a command prompt.

Enter:

IPCONFIG /RELEASE

it might or might not respond. In either case, then type:

IPCONFIG /RENEW

That should reconnect DHCP.

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Mark Jones]

martin griffith wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:26 +0200, in sci.electronics.design martin
griffith <martingriffith@XXyahoo.co.uk> wrote:


snip

Maybe. The ISP techs probably just get a thrill out of pushing the
'expire lease' button and listening to all the customers screaming.
snip

10.45am, on the dot... total loss of adsl. The IT guys must have just
finished their moring tea/coffee break


martin

There are several reasons XP can drop a DHCP lease. I doubt it would be an ISP
issue, lest most of their clients in your area would be having the same issue
and calling to complain (defective router, DHCP server, TFTP server, etc.)

XP can be especially tricky to "fix" DHCP issues because the TCP/IP protocol
and WinSock cannot be easily reinstalled if it is corrupted. So if the transport
is damaged, well.. that's a pain in the ass.

Easiest solution is, if it was working a few days or weeks ago, is to go to the
start menu and find "system restore" and restore the config to a working date.
I've seen this easily fix the problem. Any newer data is not deleted, just the
XP config is reset to that date. Saved my ass many times, worth a shot.

If your networking config is set to use a static IP address or DNS (or several
other even more technical settings) then a problem like this can result. Have
the techs at the ISP walk through all of your networking settings to make sure
it is configured correctly.

If that don't do it, see if this does any good:
1. Start --> run, type in "CMD".
2. "IPCONFIG /release"
3. "IPCONFIG /flushdns"
4. "IPCONFIG /renew"
5. "IPCONFIG /registerdns"
6. Reboot.

If it still doesn't work, you can try these. Warning - you should make a system
restore point first, as these are destructive procedures:
1. Start --> run, type in "CMD"
2. "netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt"
3. Reboot.

Netsh references:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/columns/cableguy/cg1101.asp
http://help.stargate.net/broadband/netsh.shtml

To reset your windows sockets, download and run the following:
4.
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/central/display/details.php3?installerID=127&nav=title
5. Reboot.

Try removing all network adapters from device manager and then reinstalling.
Here is a "trick" used to show defective drivers which otherwise would not be
displayed, not even with "show hidden" in the devmgr:

6. Start --> Run, CMD
7. Type the following lines exactly from the command prompt (misspelling won't
generate an error):

SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
START DEVMGMT.MSC

9. In the window that opens, Click View/Show all hidden devices. You may see
transparent icons under Network Adapters - remove all these (uninstall) along
with your modem NIC and reboot to allow windows to reinstall the correct driver.


Hope that helps.


-- "I could be labeled antisocial. But when you don't need to use anybody, why
talk to them?" MCJ 20050320