Identify This Voltage Regulator (SiLA 8)

[Robbie Hatley]

Greetings, group. I'm repairing some boards that have a small voltage
regulator in one corner (designated "VR1"), TO-92 package (like a
typical small signal transistor) which I'm having trouble identifying.

The device is marked like this:

SiLA
8
XXXX

(where XXXX is a 4-digit hexidecimal date or batch code, varying
between devices, wheras "SiLA" and "8" are always the same)

First off, anyone know what manufacturer has logo "SiLA"? I can't find info
on this.

Secondly, how in hell can I trace a part with part number "8"???
Come on, mfg.... "8"??? "8"??? Surely you guys can think of a more
unique part number than just "8"??? Sigh. Maybe it's supposed to be
an 8V regulator? Seems to be putting out about 20V, though.

Could be something like a 78LXX, but may be completely different.
Pin 1 is connected to what I'll call A+ (100-300VDC). Pin 2 seems
to be the output. Pin 3 is connected to the center point of a resistive
voltage divider from Pin 2 to ground (Vref?). When powered up
on test bench I'm getting V(pin1)=200VDC, V(pin2)=18VDC,
V(pin3)=20VDC. Might be a 20V regulator.

Anyone have any clues what this is? (I need to buy some, because
these seem to burn out frequently on these boards.)

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Cheers,
Robbie Hatley
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[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:24:25 -0700, Robbie Hatley wrote:

Greetings, group. I'm repairing some boards that have a small voltage
regulator in one corner (designated "VR1"), TO-92 package (like a
typical small signal transistor) which I'm having trouble identifying.

The device is marked like this:

SiLA
8
XXXX

(where XXXX is a 4-digit hexidecimal date or batch code, varying between
devices, wheras "SiLA" and "8" are always the same)

First off, anyone know what manufacturer has logo "SiLA"? I can't find
info on this.

Secondly, how in hell can I trace a part with part number "8"??? Come
on, mfg.... "8"??? "8"??? Surely you guys can think of a more unique
part number than just "8"??? Sigh. Maybe it's supposed to be an 8V
regulator? Seems to be putting out about 20V, though.

Could be something like a 78LXX, but may be completely different. Pin 1
is connected to what I'll call A+ (100-300VDC). Pin 2 seems to be the
output. Pin 3 is connected to the center point of a resistive voltage
divider from Pin 2 to ground (Vref?). When powered up on test bench I'm
getting V(pin1)=200VDC, V(pin2)=18VDC, V(pin3)=20VDC. Might be a 20V
regulator.

Anyone have any clues what this is? (I need to buy some, because these
seem to burn out frequently on these boards.)

Try researching under the name Silan Microeletronics.



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[Grant]

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:24:25 -0700, "Robbie Hatley" <see.my.sig@for.my.contact.info> wrote:

Greetings, group. I'm repairing some boards that have a small voltage
regulator in one corner (designated "VR1"), TO-92 package (like a
typical small signal transistor) which I'm having trouble identifying.

The device is marked like this:

SiLA
8
XXXX

(where XXXX is a 4-digit hexidecimal date or batch code, varying
between devices, wheras "SiLA" and "8" are always the same)

First off, anyone know what manufacturer has logo "SiLA"? I can't find info
on this.

Secondly, how in hell can I trace a part with part number "8"???
Come on, mfg.... "8"??? "8"??? Surely you guys can think of a more
unique part number than just "8"??? Sigh. Maybe it's supposed to be
an 8V regulator? Seems to be putting out about 20V, though.

Does the pinout match 78L08? Might be an 8V regulator.

Grant.

Could be something like a 78LXX, but may be completely different.
Pin 1 is connected to what I'll call A+ (100-300VDC). Pin 2 seems
to be the output. Pin 3 is connected to the center point of a resistive
voltage divider from Pin 2 to ground (Vref?). When powered up
on test bench I'm getting V(pin1)=200VDC, V(pin2)=18VDC,
V(pin3)=20VDC. Might be a 20V regulator.

Anyone have any clues what this is? (I need to buy some, because
these seem to burn out frequently on these boards.)

 

[Robbie Hatley]

Regarding my query about the TO-92 voltage regulator marked "SiLA/8/XXXX",
"Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> said, "Try researching under the name
Silan Microeletronics". Thanks for the tip; however, I note that the Silan
Microelectronics logo given by the sites I've looked at so far are all
"script 'SL' in tilted ellipse", rather than "SiLA". Something tells me that
"SiLA" may be the logo of some other company. An alluring match of first 4
letters though; I'll look into it further to make sure.

--
Cheers,
Robbie Hatley

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Robbie Hatley wrote:

Regarding my query about the TO-92 voltage regulator marked "SiLA/8/XXXX",
"Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> said, "Try researching under the name
Silan Microeletronics". Thanks for the tip; however, I note that the Silan
Microelectronics logo given by the sites I've looked at so far are all
"script 'SL' in tilted ellipse", rather than "SiLA". Something tells me that
"SiLA" may be the logo of some other company. An alluring match of first 4
letters though; I'll look into it further to make sure.

Are any of the regulators working? They may be in shutdown mode,
from another problem. If they are three pin it shouldn't be hard to
find the input and ground. Unsolder the remaining terminal and read the
voltage.

 

[who where]

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:52:26 +1000, Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> wrote:

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:24:25 -0700, "Robbie Hatley" <see.my.sig@for.my.contact.info> wrote:


Greetings, group. I'm repairing some boards that have a small voltage
regulator in one corner (designated "VR1"), TO-92 package (like a
typical small signal transistor) which I'm having trouble identifying.

The device is marked like this:

SiLA
8
XXXX

(where XXXX is a 4-digit hexidecimal date or batch code, varying
between devices, wheras "SiLA" and "8" are always the same)

First off, anyone know what manufacturer has logo "SiLA"? I can't find info
on this.

Secondly, how in hell can I trace a part with part number "8"???
Come on, mfg.... "8"??? "8"??? Surely you guys can think of a more
unique part number than just "8"??? Sigh. Maybe it's supposed to be
an 8V regulator? Seems to be putting out about 20V, though.

Does the pinout match 78L08? Might be an 8V regulator.

Would need to be a "special" type for that sort of input voltage
capability - which may also be aprt of the frequent failures.

Could be something like a 78LXX, but may be completely different.
Pin 1 is connected to what I'll call A+ (100-300VDC). Pin 2 seems
to be the output. Pin 3 is connected to the center point of a resistive
voltage divider from Pin 2 to ground (Vref?). When powered up
on test bench I'm getting V(pin1)=200VDC, V(pin2)=18VDC,
V(pin3)=20VDC. Might be a 20V regulator.

Anyone have any clues what this is? (I need to buy some, because
these seem to burn out frequently on these boards.)

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:24:25 -0700, "Robbie Hatley"
<see.my.sig@for.my.contact.info> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Greetings, group. I'm repairing some boards that have a small voltage
regulator in one corner (designated "VR1"), TO-92 package (like a
typical small signal transistor) which I'm having trouble identifying.

The device is marked like this:

SiLA
8
XXXX

(where XXXX is a 4-digit hexidecimal date or batch code, varying
between devices, wheras "SiLA" and "8" are always the same)

First off, anyone know what manufacturer has logo "SiLA"? I can't find info
on this.

Secondly, how in hell can I trace a part with part number "8"???
Come on, mfg.... "8"??? "8"??? Surely you guys can think of a more
unique part number than just "8"??? Sigh. Maybe it's supposed to be
an 8V regulator? Seems to be putting out about 20V, though.

Could be something like a 78LXX, but may be completely different.
Pin 1 is connected to what I'll call A+ (100-300VDC). Pin 2 seems
to be the output. Pin 3 is connected to the center point of a resistive
voltage divider from Pin 2 to ground (Vref?). When powered up
on test bench I'm getting V(pin1)=200VDC, V(pin2)=18VDC,
V(pin3)=20VDC. Might be a 20V regulator.

"Si" would suggest Vishay Siliconix. Siliconix makes a range of power
semis, including regulators.

Your description of the pinout would suggest that pin 3 is the
"ground" or "adjust" terminal of a 3-terminal regulator.

1 |-----| 2
Vin o-----| |-----+--o Vout
|--|--| |
3 | |
+-- R2 --|
|
R1
|
_|_
=

However, I would have expected that V2 would be greater than V3.
Furthermore, V2-V3 would be a fixed voltage (Vref), eg 1.25V or 2.5V.

The output voltage would then be ...

Vout = Vref (1 + R1 / R2)

What are the values of R2 and R1?

What voltage do you measure on a good VR1 when you disconnect the
load?

BTW, if the output were 20V, then VR1 would be dissipating ...

P = (Vout - Vin) x Iload
= 180 x Iload

This means that a 6mA load would be enough to cause the TO92 package
to dissipate 1W.


- Franc Zabkar
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[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:56:33 -0700, Robbie Hatley wrote:

Regarding my query about the TO-92 voltage regulator marked
"SiLA/8/XXXX", "Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> said, "Try researching
under the name Silan Microeletronics". Thanks for the tip; however, I
note that the Silan Microelectronics logo given by the sites I've looked
at so far are all "script 'SL' in tilted ellipse", rather than "SiLA".
Something tells me that "SiLA" may be the logo of some other company.
An alluring match of first 4 letters though; I'll look into it further
to make sure.

Well it was just a suggestion and seemed reasonable to investigate
further. Why not match something up just be electrical specs? If you have
a working device to get some voltage references from I don't see a problem
with specing it out to another vendor. And since you are seeing high
failure rate, overspec it.



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