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Jim Thompson · Sep 24, 2003

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Active8 · Sep 24, 2003

In article <fms1nvg73utm5sdlacfg7do8n3nmttomuk@4ax.com>, Jim-T@golana-
will-get-you.com says...

An HSpice to PSpice CMOS Library Converter has been added to the Tool
page of my website. (Courtesy of Brian Hirasuna of the Cadence PSpice
Support Team.)

...Jim Thompson

they threw you a bone to draw your attention away from those bug reports

you submitted?

;-)

mike

Jim Thompson · Sep 24, 2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:00:05 GMT, Active8
<mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:

In article <fms1nvg73utm5sdlacfg7do8n3nmttomuk@4ax.com>, Jim-T@golana-
will-get-you.com says...
An HSpice to PSpice CMOS Library Converter has been added to the Tool
page of my website. (Courtesy of Brian Hirasuna of the Cadence PSpice
Support Team.)

...Jim Thompson

they threw you a bone to draw your attention away from those bug reports
you submitted?

;-)

mike

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Spehro Pefhany · Sep 24, 2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:28:36 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

No, no, Brian (and Charlie) are neat guys... the villain is Cadence,
the cretin corporation.

Did you see their CEO Bingham(?) on CNBC Squawk Box this morning?
Painful.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Jim Thompson · Sep 24, 2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:40:22 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <speff@interlog.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:28:36 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

No, no, Brian (and Charlie) are neat guys... the villain is Cadence,
the cretin corporation.

Did you see their CEO Bingham(?) on CNBC Squawk Box this morning?
Painful.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany · Sep 25, 2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:34:11 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

I watch FOX (actually listen, the set is *behind* me) all day long so
I missed the CNBC thingy. Please elaborate.

Oh, the interviewer (Mark Haines) had no idea what EDA software was,
and the CEO pretty much left a mushy impression that it had a lot to
do with manufacturing cell phones and PDAs. I really didn't hear words
from the CEO that indicated a crisp focus on anything.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Greg Pierce · Sep 25, 2003

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:29:37 -0700, the highly esteemed Jim Thompson
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

An HSpice to PSpice CMOS Library Converter has been added to the Tool
page of my website. (Courtesy of Brian Hirasuna of the Cadence PSpice
Support Team.)

...Jim Thompson

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

--
Greg

--The software said it requires Win2000 or better, so I installed Linux.

Paul Burridge · Sep 25, 2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com>
wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator and it's
free.
:-/

--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Active8 · Sep 25, 2003

In article <b1c4nvkp18g2t0d6h914sdus5scmjmjv91@4ax.com>,
speff@interlog.com says...

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:34:11 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote:

I watch FOX (actually listen, the set is *behind* me) all day long so
I missed the CNBC thingy. Please elaborate.

Oh, the interviewer (Mark Haines) had no idea what EDA software was,
and the CEO pretty much left a mushy impression that it had a lot to
do with manufacturing cell phones and PDAs. I really didn't hear words
from the CEO that indicated a crisp focus on anything.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

i wouldn't expect much from a big company CEO. except rising stock

values. how some CEOs manage that without having strong product knowlege
can only be explained by underlings who do know what's up.

mike

Greg Pierce · Sep 25, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:36:55 +0100, the highly esteemed Paul Burridge
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator and it's
free.
:-/

That being the case, ask Jim why he pays for a seat of Pspice, including
the yearly maintenence fees - there IS a reason.

--
Greg

--The software said it requires Win2000 or better, so I installed Linux.

Paul Burridge · Sep 25, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:40:54 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:36:55 +0100, the highly esteemed Paul Burridge
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator and it's
free.
:-/

That being the case, ask Jim why he pays for a seat of Pspice, including
the yearly maintenence fees - there IS a reason.

Jim's very set in his ways, having used PS for some 80 years now, plus
ISTR he doesn't have much regard for Mike Engleheart for some
inexplicable reason. ;-)

--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Jim Thompson · Sep 25, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:12:08 +0100, Paul Burridge
<pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:40:54 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:36:55 +0100, the highly esteemed Paul Burridge
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator and it's
free.
:-/

That being the case, ask Jim why he pays for a seat of Pspice, including
the yearly maintenence fees - there IS a reason.

Jim's very set in his ways, having used PS for some 80 years now, plus
ISTR he doesn't have much regard for Mike Engleheart for some
inexplicable reason. ;-)

Not so. I've only used PSpice for about 17 years. Sheeeesh! My
father is only 85 ;-)

I like PSpice (at least with Schematics as a front-end) because it is
butt-easy to use, is reliable, and has the industry-standard
back-end... Probe.

Drop by sometime and I'll show you what a *real* simulator is like.

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant Kevin-like
harping about the bugs in PSpice... like that will improve his seat
count ?

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Paul Burridge · Sep 25, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:20:04 -0700, Jim Thompson
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Not so. I've only used PSpice for about 17 years. Sheeeesh! My
father is only 85 ;-)

My apologies.

I like PSpice (at least with Schematics as a front-end) because it is
butt-easy to use, is reliable, and has the industry-standard
back-end... Probe.

Which does what, exactly? You can drop something that looks rather
like a probe onto nodes in LT and examine currents and voltages
present. Isn't that the same thing?

Drop by sometime and I'll show you what a *real* simulator is like.

Well, that's mighty neighbourly of you, Jim. However, as an English
chap I expect certain standards as your guest. A properly-made cup of
tea, for example (tea-pot, loose-leaf tea, semi-skimmed milk and a
digestive biscuit). And that's before I get stuck into your legendary
wine cellar...

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant Kevin-like
harping about the bugs in PSpice... like that will improve his seat
count ?

The comparison with Kev is a little unkind, Jim. I'm sure Mike can at
least be reasoned with. ;->

--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Jim Thompson · Sep 25, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:04:06 +0100, Paul Burridge
<pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:20:04 -0700, Jim Thompson
invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Not so. I've only used PSpice for about 17 years. Sheeeesh! My
father is only 85 ;-)

My apologies.

I like PSpice (at least with Schematics as a front-end) because it is
butt-easy to use, is reliable, and has the industry-standard
back-end... Probe.

Which does what, exactly? You can drop something that looks rather
like a probe onto nodes in LT and examine currents and voltages
present. Isn't that the same thing?

Ease of use.

Drop by sometime and I'll show you what a *real* simulator is like.

Well, that's mighty neighbourly of you, Jim. However, as an English
chap I expect certain standards as your guest. A properly-made cup of
tea, for example (tea-pot, loose-leaf tea, semi-skimmed milk and a
digestive biscuit). And that's before I get stuck into your legendary
wine cellar...

What's tea? Oh, yes, that stuff you get in Chinese restaurants ;-)

Actually we have several varieties of loose tea in the pantry... the
wife drinks it on occasion. I drink coffee (black), wine and an
occasional Drambuie, Sambuca or Jack Daniels.

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant Kevin-like
harping about the bugs in PSpice... like that will improve his seat
count ?

The comparison with Kev is a little unkind, Jim. I'm sure Mike can at
least be reasoned with. ;-

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Mike Engelhardt · Sep 25, 2003

Jim,

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant Kevin-like
harping about the bugs in PSpice...

Yes, I've noticed you feel threatened whenever I identify a bug in
PSpice, but not when someone else does, as if you feel threatened
at the possibility that you've bet at the wrong horse. Perhaps you
feel you can't join the LTspice crowd without looking stupid because
you've bet against it.

I've had a weak beef with you(but it always dies away pretty quickly)
because I've felt that you are unjustly insultive to me. For example,
you've accused me of not knowing how to even run PSpice, but it's you
that has had trouble. For example, you sent a bench mark of an Xtal
oscillator circuit to various SPICE people. LTspice immediately
showed the correct solution that it has a 300MHz spurious oscillation.
PSpice showed it faithfully oscillating at the XTal's 14MHz. While it
was possible to cause LTspice to do the same simulation(except 3x
faster) by setting the integration mode to Gear, it was extremely
difficult to get the correct answer out of PSpice. I had to show
youhow to run PSpice buy showing you how to watch the solution converge
to the correct anser as the maximum allowed timestep was reduced. But,
I don't harbor a resent toward you even though you've twice accussed me
in this public forum that I don't know how to run PSpice, a patently
stupid statement.

... like that will improve his seat count ?

Jim, I'd never accuse you of being a socialist, in fact, you'd
probably be an OK guy if you weren't so darn liberal. But where is
your entrepreneurial spirit. Why would seat count interest me when
it's a free simulator? If I thought selling licenses was the
best means to develop the best SPICE program in the most
profitable manner, then I'd run the biggest EDA/software company
and do that.

--Mike

Jim Thompson · Sep 25, 2003

On 25 Sep 2003 22:57:26 GMT, "Mike Engelhardt" <pmte@concentric.net>
wrote:

Jim,

[snip]

Jim, I'd never accuse you of being a socialist, in fact, you'd
probably be an OK guy if you weren't so darn liberal. But where is
your entrepreneurial spirit. Why would seat count interest me when
it's a free simulator? If I thought selling licenses was the
best means to develop the best SPICE program in the most
profitable manner, then I'd run the biggest EDA/software company
and do that.

--Mike

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Greg Pierce · Sep 26, 2003

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:20:04 -0700, the highly esteemed Jim Thompson
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:12:08 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:40:54 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:36:55 +0100, the highly esteemed Paul Burridge
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide to buy a new
car I will instead spend the cash on a single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator and it's
free.
:-/

That being the case, ask Jim why he pays for a seat of Pspice, including
the yearly maintenence fees - there IS a reason.

Jim's very set in his ways, having used PS for some 80 years now, plus
ISTR he doesn't have much regard for Mike Engleheart for some
inexplicable reason. ;-)

Not so. I've only used PSpice for about 17 years. Sheeeesh! My
father is only 85 ;-)

I like PSpice (at least with Schematics as a front-end) because it is
butt-easy to use, is reliable, and has the industry-standard
back-end... Probe.

Drop by sometime and I'll show you what a *real* simulator is like.

A real simulator? I didn't know you own a seat of HSPICE ;-)

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant Kevin-like
harping about the bugs in PSpice... like that will improve his seat
count ?

I personally haven't used LTSpice for one simple reason - Linear Tech
hasn't ported it to Linux. They could at least port their SPICE engine;
that shouldn't be difficult at all, unless it is hopelessly intertwined
with their GUI (which would be a hopelessly stupid mistake on their
part). A command-line driven engine for Linux would be perfectly fine
as far as I am concerned.

--
Greg

--The software said it requires Win2000 or better, so I installed Linux.

Mark Jones · Sep 26, 2003

Greg Pierce wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:20:04 -0700, the highly esteemed Jim
Thompson enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:12:08 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:40:54 -0700, Greg Pierce
trash.can@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:36:55 +0100, the highly esteemed
Paul Burridge enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:11:07 -0700, Greg Pierce
trash.can@nospam.com> wrote:

I miss my beloved HSpice.. maybe the next time I decide
to buy a new car I will instead spend the cash on a
single-seat license. ;-)

Why spend anything at all? LT Spice is a great simulator
and it's free.
:-/

That being the case, ask Jim why he pays for a seat of
Pspice, including the yearly maintenence fees - there IS a
reason.

Jim's very set in his ways, having used PS for some 80 years
now, plus ISTR he doesn't have much regard for Mike
Engleheart for some inexplicable reason. ;-)

Not so. I've only used PSpice for about 17 years. Sheeeesh!
My
father is only 85 ;-)

I like PSpice (at least with Schematics as a front-end)
because it is butt-easy to use, is reliable, and has the
industry-standard
back-end... Probe.

Drop by sometime and I'll show you what a *real* simulator is
like.

A real simulator? I didn't know you own a seat of HSPICE ;-)

My beef with Mikey is not with LTSpice, but his incessant
Kevin-like harping about the bugs in PSpice... like that will
improve his seat count ?

I personally haven't used LTSpice for one simple reason -
Linear Tech hasn't ported it to Linux. They could at least
port their SPICE engine; that shouldn't be difficult at all,
unless it is hopelessly intertwined with their GUI (which
would be a hopelessly stupid mistake on their part).
A command-line driven engine for Linux would be perfectly
fine as far as I am concerned.

I've seen some very strange things with the proteus VSM simulator I use.
Besides the (all-too-frequent) convergence problems, I've noticed that zener
diodes do not like to bias like they should, and diode drop is not correct
for the various types of bipolar devices. I'm not sure if it is just an
issue with the stock library or a fault of the simulator (it says it is
based from the Berkeley 3F5 core, which you'd think should be pretty
good...)

Jens Tingleff · Sep 26, 2003

In article <m5t6nv86gio3p17fuips1bntakv6b1fr68@4ax.com>, Jim Thompson says...

On 25 Sep 2003 22:57:26 GMT, "Mike Engelhardt" <pmte@concentric.net
wrote:

Jim,

[snip]

Jim, I'd never accuse you of being a socialist, in fact, you'd
probably be an OK guy if you weren't so darn liberal.
[..]
--Mike

Now *that's* a first. I've never been called a liberal before ;-)

ROTL!

Mike, in the US "liberal" means "communist."

Jim, in Europe, "liberal" means "fascist."

(Oh, both meanings above as used by opponents of the respective ideologies;
people who would describe themselves as "liberal" in the US would be describing
themselves as "left-wing" in Europe and be opposed to "liberals" and
conversely.)

Regards

Jens

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Kevin Aylward · Sep 26, 2003

Jens Tingleff wrote:

In article <m5t6nv86gio3p17fuips1bntakv6b1fr68@4ax.com>, Jim Thompson
says...

On 25 Sep 2003 22:57:26 GMT, "Mike Engelhardt" <pmte@concentric.net
wrote:

Jim,

[snip]

Jim, I'd never accuse you of being a socialist, in fact, you'd
probably be an OK guy if you weren't so darn liberal.
[..]
--Mike

Now *that's* a first. I've never been called a liberal before ;-)

ROTL!

Mike, in the US "liberal" means "communist."

Jim, in Europe, "liberal" means "fascist."

Cant say I agree with this in the slightest. The "Liberal" party in the
UK is neither, and I have never associated that word with anything like
the negatives that you suggest here.

Cambridge online dictionary.
Definition
liberal (POLITICS) [Show phonetics]
adjective
(of a political party or a country) believing in or allowing more
personal freedom and a development towards a fairer sharing of wealth
and power within society

Definition
liberal (GENEROUS) [Show phonetics]
adjective FORMAL
giving or given in a generous way:
He was very liberal with the wine.

Definition
liberal (SOCIETY) [Show phonetics]
adjective
respecting and allowing many different types of beliefs or behaviour:
a liberal society/attitude

Kevin Aylward
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http://www.anasoft.co.uk
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