How to construct a Google Groups non-redundant URL for refer

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Danny D.

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Here is how I just now figured out how to construct a non-redundant Google
Groups URL to a Usenet post from years ago. If you have a better method,
please share, as I post this merely to share to help others use Usenet as a
reference.

I just did this today for the alt-home-repair newsgroup, so all I'm doing
is documenting the steps for others to be able to leverage in the future.

1. I needed to look up an old URL on how to wind garage door torsion
springs so that I could cut and paste a short Google URL as a reference.

2. I knew the original thread was posted to alt.home.repair by me on Usenet
years ago, so I searched using this easily remembered URL.
http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair

3. That easily remembered URL, of course, takes you to the canonical GG
search URL which is the one to use (but it's harder to remember):
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair

4. My search was "Danny garage torsion" which came up with four thread
titles:
a. Lessons learned installing a torsion spring in a typical
residential garage
b. Update to the "lessons learned" garage door torsion spring DIY thread
(new lessons learned)
c. Garage door torsion spring relocation project (Status = Not going well)
d. Garage door torsion spring broken ... and ... I have no questions! :)

5. The initial URLs are messy because they include redundant terms:
a.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
b.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
c.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
d.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair

6. Notice the unique ultimate characters:
a. LASTID=BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. LASTID=8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. LASTID=Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. LASTID=I0TP541gGk4J

7. Now you need a normal short URL, where a "normal" URL can be gotten
simply by looking up the *latest* page and choosing any URL found on that
latest page as of the current date.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair

The first URL (at the moment) uses this non-redundant syntax:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/i9nfxKFjZE0

8. You'd think you can just cut the *last* argument out, to reconstruct the
desired non-redundant Google URLs (but you can't). So these won't work:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/<cut this out>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/<insert LASTID>

a. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/I0TP541gGk4J

But that doesn't work.

9. What you can do though, is cut TWO ID sections out:
a. LAST2IDs=738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. LAST2IDs=AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. LAST2IDs=ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. LAST2IDs=s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J

10. Using those two sections, you reconstruct a Google URL:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ + <LAST2IDs>
a.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ
b.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J

11. When you go to those four URLs, you get *new* Google URLs for each:
a. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI
b. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA
c. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY
d. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q

12. So, one way to reconstruct a non-redundant Google Groups URL is to put
these three syntactical items together:
A. The base URL (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/)
B. The newsgroup (alt.home.repair)
C. The penultimate ID

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ + alt.home.repair/ + PENULTIMATEID
 
Or you could just click the down arrow in the upper right:
"More Message Options -> [Link Icon]"
And copy the Link Location
Click to expand...

To help others, here is a simpler method to obtain a reference link:
http://i.cubeupload.com/pa5vGa.jpg

Both methods start from this easy to remember search start point:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair

That takes us to the standard Google "Groups" (also Usenet) search:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair

Which results in the following four long "message-style" URLs:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair

The suggested simple method results in these "message-style" references:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/_XhsH8wCbfUJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/fiVMoz_brDYJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/IHjGymHVhmQJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/zdTATJHAnOMJ

The suggested manual method results in these "topic-style" references:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q

Both results seem functionally equivalent in my initial test just now.
 
On 2/15/2017 10:08 AM, Danny D. wrote:
Here is how I just now figured out how to construct a non-redundant Google
Groups URL to a Usenet post from years ago. If you have a better method,
please share, as I post this merely to share to help others use Usenet as a
reference.
Click to expand...

Piss orf.
 
On 2/15/17, 11:08 AM, in article o825ea$vvb$1@dont-email.me, "Danny D."
<dannydiamico@example.com> wrote:

Here is how I just now figured out how to construct a non-redundant Google
Groups URL to a Usenet post from years ago. If you have a better method,
please share, as I post this merely to share to help others use Usenet as a
reference.

I just did this today for the alt-home-repair newsgroup, so all I'm doing
is documenting the steps for others to be able to leverage in the future.

1. I needed to look up an old URL on how to wind garage door torsion
springs so that I could cut and paste a short Google URL as a reference.

2. I knew the original thread was posted to alt.home.repair by me on Usenet
years ago, so I searched using this easily remembered URL.
http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair

3. That easily remembered URL, of course, takes you to the canonical GG
search URL which is the one to use (but it's harder to remember):
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair

4. My search was "Danny garage torsion" which came up with four thread
titles:
a. Lessons learned installing a torsion spring in a typical
residential garage
b. Update to the "lessons learned" garage door torsion spring DIY thread
(new lessons learned)
c. Garage door torsion spring relocation project (Status = Not going well)
d. Garage door torsion spring broken ... and ... I have no questions! :)

5. The initial URLs are messy because they include redundant terms:
a.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ
;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
b.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
c.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair
d.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J
;context-place=forum/alt.home.repair

6. Notice the unique ultimate characters:
a. LASTID=BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. LASTID=8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. LASTID=Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. LASTID=I0TP541gGk4J

7. Now you need a normal short URL, where a "normal" URL can be gotten
simply by looking up the *latest* page and choosing any URL found on that
latest page as of the current date.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.home.repair

The first URL (at the moment) uses this non-redundant syntax:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/i9nfxKFjZE0

8. You'd think you can just cut the *last* argument out, to reconstruct the
desired non-redundant Google URLs (but you can't). So these won't work:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/<cut this out
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/<insert LASTID

a. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/I0TP541gGk4J

But that doesn't work.

9. What you can do though, is cut TWO ID sections out:
a. LAST2IDs=738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71BAJ
b. LAST2IDs=AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmASEJ
c. LAST2IDs=ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQooJ
d. LAST2IDs=s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk4J

10. Using those two sections, you reconstruct a Google URL:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ + <LAST2IDs
a.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI/BRHYK3X71B
AJ
b.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA/8Ff3HsrmAS
EJ
c.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY/Hk0mfwDsQo
oJ
d.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q/I0TP541gGk
4J

11. When you go to those four URLs, you get *new* Google URLs for each:
a. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/738YR8CPsLI
b. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/AGrGZc4i-RA
c. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/ifuMBLOoGXY
d. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/s0zBJNaT89Q

12. So, one way to reconstruct a non-redundant Google Groups URL is to put
these three syntactical items together:
A. The base URL (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/)
B. The newsgroup (alt.home.repair)
C. The penultimate ID

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ + alt.home.repair/ + PENULTIMATEID
Click to expand...

Any good method to go from Message-ID to a Google Groups link?

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
 
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